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Falernum taste test
pablus
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From: www.crazedmugs.com
Posted: 2004-09-28 07:16 am   Permalink


Thanks to Kava King, and his generous investment of a bottle of Sazeracs, we had a taste off of ALL (as far as we know) the falernums.

The first 4 judges did a full visual taste off. We knew what we were drinking. Then we started covering them for a blind test.

Basement Kahuna
Martiki
tikibars (J. Teitelbaum)
Rusty Key
me
Al K.
Wersmo Derinc
Humuhumu
Mano

The Falernums:

Fee Bros.
Sazeracs
John Taylor Velvet
Davinci

Here are the results:
7 out of 9 people preferred the John Taylors

I personally preferred the Sazeracs because it had much more citrus elements.

Mano. I think, like the Fee Bros. best.

The Davinci is so sweet, you'd have to use it in a punch or something.

John Taylors is well balanced enough to drink on the rocks.

Fee Bros is well balanced, too. A good little mixer.

After the taste test, which tikibars documented on his tricorder, I mixed up some test pilots using the Sazeracs and WOW, were they good. Usually the test pilots are a bit bitter. Not tonight, those hard citrus flavors really came on to round that drink out.

Mmmmm. I'm going to make a couple tonight before heading out to see the V-nauts and I Belli.

SO there you have it.

Mano made up a nice little drink with pineapple and falernum - wonder if he'll remember it?



 
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martiki
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Posted: 2004-09-28 3:52 pm   Permalink

Thanks again for putting that together, pablus. They really are all different, and (imho) more than one of them are crap.


Let it be said, much like the Dentists Of Trident:

"7 out of 9 drunks prefer the taste of John Taylor's Falernum over the other leading brands!"


 
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JonPez
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Posted: 2004-09-28 7:26 pm   Permalink

Pablus...
What kind was it that you put in the "Lost Pilot" you mixed for me?
I can't remember, all I know is that I was sweating cloves the next day.
Good stuff!
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pablus
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Posted: 2004-09-29 11:04 am   Permalink


That was the Sazeracs.

Good thing I didn't pour the 'test pilot' into your tikimug with the cigarette butt in it that some moronic, inbred troll dropped into it.



 
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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2004-09-29 11:53 am   Permalink

So the Sazeracs was a big hit in the Test Pilots. Did you not try mixing with the Velvet Falernum? You guys didn't stop short of a full fledged taste test did you? So which one taste best in a mixed drink???

 
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pablus
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Posted: 2004-09-29 1:12 pm   Permalink


The ingredients were limited by the 60 or so people plowing through the supplies.

We chose a winner with a sip of each and then I mixed a few from the Sazeracs, since it's so rare.

Every "judge" has had all of these falernums in drinks before... multiple times.

My mouth is watering for a taste right now... but it's only 3:11pm and I'm about to handle power tools.




 
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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2004-09-29 2:56 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2004-09-29 13:12, pablus wrote:


Every "judge" has had all of these falernums in drinks before... multiple times.




Hence the question on probably more than just my mind; Which one tastes the best in mixed drinks?

Was the Test Pilot with Sazeracs better than a Test Pilot with Velvet Falernum?

Please share.


 
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pablus
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Posted: 2004-09-29 3:11 pm   Permalink


Well, speaking for myself, I love the flavor of the Sazeracs in the test pilot as described above. I've had test pilots with all of the syrups and the Taylors and my own falernum, but the Sazeracs is best.

martiki - why don't you weigh in on this?
In fact all of the 'judges' should answer on their own.

My studied guess is that the Taylors is going to win, for whatever it's worth.


 
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Kono
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Posted: 2004-09-29 8:39 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2004-09-29 15:11, pablus wrote:

My studied guess is that the Taylors is going to win, for whatever it's worth.




If I HAD to bet the farm on the outcome, I'd put all my ducats on the falernum that actually has some alcohol in it! Especially with these rascally judges.

I've only ever had Fee's Bros. I wish we could get Velvet Falernum here in hurricane ravaged Florida.


 
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Traitor Vic
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Posted: 2004-09-29 11:40 pm   Permalink

Thank All of You for Doing This!!!

I've seen the John Taylor diss'ed and pooh-pooh'd so many times on TC (by so many TCers whose opinions I respect) that I'd pretty much written it off. You guys deserve, like, a medal or something.


 
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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2004-09-30 10:12 am   Permalink

Thanks Pablus! I value your opinion.

Out of the other Falernums, which one would you say tastes most like the Sazeracs?


 
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finkdaddy
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Posted: 2004-09-30 10:58 am   Permalink

Quote:
I've had test pilots with all of the syrups and the Taylors and my own falernum



Could you point me in the direction of a good Falernum recipe? It sounds yummy.


 
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pablus
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Posted: 2004-09-30 2:51 pm   Permalink

Good falernum recipes are in the Grog Log and Intoxica and also that book of Donn Beach recipes by his daughter or someone close. I'm reticent to post one of Berry's little gems. Grog Logs are like, 10 bucks.

You know - about which ones taste the most like Sazeracs - I never even thought of that. I'll try here in a few minutes... but I'll bet any of the falernums could be cloved and citrused up.

I'm saving some of the Sazeracs to guide me for the next batch of homemade falernum... trying toasted cloves cooked into water to approach that same flavor.

The lime zest of the recipe I posted already comes pretty close to the "Big S."

I'll edit this post to add which one tastes more like Sazeracs. Then we'll know to which to add absinthe and stir with a rooster's feather pretending we're in New Orleans drinking the very first cocktail ever.
----------------EDIT-----------
The fees is more citrus-y.
The taylors is more clove-y.
BUT when I mixed a teaspoon of each into a shot glass, it was the closest to the Sazeracs.







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tikibars
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Posted: 2004-10-01 01:00 am   Permalink

Just got back from Hukilau (yes, I know it ended 5 days ago!), and I haven't gone over my tape-recorded notes yet, but if I remember correctly:

7 of 9 people picked Taylor's as their first choice, and one person picked it as second choice. Interestingly, almost all of us of us placed Fee Brothers as the second choice, and 8 of 9 put Di Vinci LAST.

The much-hyped Sazerac came in third on almost everyone's list, except one fella who put it first, and therefore kept the Taylor's from sweeping the first place slot.

All of this said, these tests were done drinking the stuff straight, and we definitely agreed that in a drink, results may vary.

The almost-unanimously third place Sazerac certainly didn't hurt the 'Pilots we were drinking...

Also, as mentioned, we got the idea to do the tests blind after a few of us already took our respective turns. But even with about half of us knowing what we were drinking and when, and the other half doing the blind test, the results were fairly consistent.



 
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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2004-10-02 12:06 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2004-10-01 01:00, tikibars wrote:
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All of this said, these tests were done drinking the stuff straight, and we definitely agreed that in a drink, results may vary.





I'm glad you pointed this out.

It's not surprising that in a solo/straight taste test the Taylor's Velvet Falernum would come in first. Being that it is a liqueur, it is of course supposed to be palatable straight. All of the other Falernums are syrups and are by no means expected to by consumed straight.

Thanks Pablus for coming up with an easily available approximation of the Sazeracs (half Fees, half Taylors). I will give this a try.




 
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