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A Legitimate Counterfeit (Post Your Leroy Art Here!)
Aaron's Akua
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From: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
Posted: 2004-11-19 2:31 pm   Permalink

Okay, I'm getting started on a new project, and have decided to do another step-by-step.

Aaron's Akua Official Disclaimer:


For all of the new carvers, or lurkers who are thinking about learning to carve:
I'm no expert, just got started myself. Everything I've learned here was by asking the Pros who've been around for awhile.

For all of the Pros:
Feel free to laugh your ass off at my whacky attempts at carving. I have a knack for making things more complicated than they need to be.

Geek Alert: Like most people in the engineering field, I'm at least 75% geek, although I do my best to keep it undercover. On this post, I'm gonna let it all hang out. Anyone who gets queasy with this sort of thing should probably leave the room.

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Here's my sketch:


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Who can figure out what famous tiki this is?

Anybody? Anybody?

A-A

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tikifish
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From: Toronto,Canada
Posted: 2004-11-19 3:03 pm   Permalink

Leilani!!!

 
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Sam Gambino
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Posted: 2004-11-19 3:18 pm   Permalink

I like it, AA - "Tech meets Tiki". Is that CAD?


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Tikiwahine
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Joined: Apr 09, 2003
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From: Victoria, BC
Posted: 2004-11-19 3:24 pm   Permalink

it reminds me of the one Leroy is carving in the BOT

 
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Polynesiac
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Joined: Jan 29, 2004
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From: San Pedro, CA
Posted: 2004-11-19 3:30 pm   Permalink

Cool start! Interesting how everyone starts differently...

I'll wager that your favorite subjects in school were MATH and WOODWORKING
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Jungle Trader
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Posted: 2004-11-19 4:05 pm   Permalink

It's a Reloy.

 
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Aaron's Akua
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From: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
Posted: 2004-11-19 6:43 pm   Permalink

Tikiwahine wins! Buy yourself a mai-tai and send me the bill. It's from page 242 of the BOT.

The sketch above is a distorted view created from an unusual method of orthographic projections using the tracing below.



Yes, Sam. It was done using AutoCAD. More on that later.

That was the "counterfeit" part. And more on the "legitimate" part later as well....

Later,

Aaron

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Kanaka
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Posted: 2004-11-19 7:00 pm   Permalink

Wood or concrete block?

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kbgator
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Joined: Sep 16, 2003
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From: Deerfield Beach FL
Posted: 2004-11-19 7:28 pm   Permalink



 
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kbgator
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Posted: 2004-11-19 7:29 pm   Permalink

did you do in 3d or just two dimension. Did you use polylines or lines. If you used polylines you might want to spline them to make it look more rounded.


 
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Jungle Trader
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Posted: 2004-11-19 10:44 pm   Permalink

Look carefully and you'll see a Reloy copy in the backgound


 
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Aaron's Akua
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From: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
Posted: 2004-11-20 10:08 pm   Permalink

Polynesiac, I never got into woodworking until recently. In fact, I haven't done any art since my High School days until about 2 years ago. Guess I just didn't have time for hobbies. But TC got me started again, and now I'm pumped!

JT, that's some major tiki action you got goin' there. Hopefully my back yard will look like that some day. I see your Leroy right there in the middle. Hope mine looks half as good when I'm done!

Kanaka, this one's going to be made from a mexican fan palm log. I thought I'd try a different method of removing the bark this time - 4-1/2" angle grinder! Started out well, but made a big friggin' mess. I think I might've dusted out my neighbor's jacuzzi in the process...



Cleaned up the ends with a chainsaw at my pal Rattlesnake Jake's house. That's where it's at for now. Hope to get started laying down some outline cuts over an extended Thanksgiving weekend vacation. This is me playing "Leroy" with the chainsaw.



I've been daydreaming about big logs all day. Here's Rattlesnake Jake slicing up some tasty Ficus logs for me. One's 7 ft, the other's 5 ft. Sprayed the fresh cuts with Polyurethane to seal them up & stashed 'em under the porch for now. More on these guy's later. I've got a few other projects planned first.

Rattlesnake Jake's got the carving bug bad. I've got a sneaky feeling that you might be hearing him in the near future...



Kbgator, the sketches are all in 2-D. The tracing is all Plines, and the sketch is all arcs. Arcs are great for this type of thing, cause you can turn on the "grips" & tweak 'em any way you want. I've got neither the time nor patience for 3-D. Keep in mind that the only reason for this sketch is to transfer a photo of Leroy's design to a pattern on a round log. Even the most rudimentary sketch on a log can be turned to magic with a chisel. You just work it as you go. Take a look at the sketch below. The trick is to take a tracing of a photo (Leroy's awesome tiki from the BOT) and translate it into an accurate repoduction on a smaller scale log.

I owe a favor to my friend Randy. Repayment will be in the form of this tiki carving. I gave him my copy of the BOT, and this is the carving that he picked. I really love this tiki... It just seems to leap off the page. So, to keep it on the "up & up", I asked permission from both Sven and Leroy. Here's their responses.

From Sven: "Please, go ahead, I see the whole Book of Tiki as a blueprint for the Tiki revival."

From Leroy via Bob van Oosting: "Aloha Aaron. I talked to LeRoy this morning and he said it's fine with him. It's available for all to copy---enjoy! Bob."

So, with Sven and Leroy's approval, I got started. I scanned in a copy of the photo from the BOT. Then I scaled it down to the size of my log (tracing on the left).

Using CAD, I figured out the circumference of the area where the outline will appear on the log. I made a grid to that exact size (on the right). The end result will be a paper template that I can wrap around the log & lay down my tiki outlines for chiseling.

Orthographic projection normally uses 45 degree lines to project lines from a flat side view to a flat front view, keeping everything nice and proportional.

To compensate for the fact that the side view was a round surface, I used an ellipse rather than a 45 degree line to project the lines.

I created half a tiki face with this technique. Then I just mirrored the half to make a complete sketch. That's another great thing about CAD. You can work on half of your design, mirror it, and everything is exact.



Leroy's carving looks like it was made from a large palm trunk that was cut & turned upside down.

I want to make a scaled down version of the carving, and I want to keep it as close to the original as possible. That means I'll nead to trim my palm log down accordingly to match. This just might be my excuse to buy that Arbortech grinder blade that I've been eyeballing for awhile (apparently one of the favorite tools for TC's own Cheekytiki and Lake Surfer).

I'm also going to have to tweak that sketch to accomodate the larger diameter on top and smaller diameter on the bottom.

I suppose I could just eyeball it & sketch some lines on a log, but that would just be too easy, now wouldn't it? I have to say, copying is not easy. It would be ten times easier to just do an original design. This is a real challenge though, and bound to be fun.

Hope to post more after the holiday weekend. Until then....

Cheers!

Aaron

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hi-jinx
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From: Delray Beach, FL
Posted: 2004-11-20 11:35 pm   Permalink

I'm keepin' my eye on this one- I want to see how your wrap design works out-


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Polynesiac
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Joined: Jan 29, 2004
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From: San Pedro, CA
Posted: 2004-11-21 11:05 am   Permalink

This is way too technical for me...totally cool though.
Any math/computer graphics teachers in the crowd?!?!? Project based learning at its finest with the end result of a cool tiki!

Thanks for the updates aaron! Keep 'em coming!

(and you project based learning teachers, start adapting this to your curriculum!)

Screw the tests!!!!!! hands on education RULES!!!!

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Aaron's Akua
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Joined: Jul 09, 2004
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From: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
Posted: 2004-11-21 3:16 pm   Permalink

Okay, enough about CAD, let’s talk carving.

I went on a search for that Arbortech grinder blade today. Looked all over & couldn’t find it. As a last resort, I stopped by Harbor Freight. Now, I’m generally skeptical about Harbor Freight tools. The old adage “you get what you pay for” usually applies. But this hairy-scary chainsaw blade jumped off the shelf at me. And it wasn’t cheap. It’s called the “Lancelot” by “King Arthur’s Tools”. Okay, with a name like that I’m still a little skeptical. But look at this thing. It just screams out “GIT SOME”! And the packaging says it’s great for cutting cows hooves among other things. Definitely worth a try. I’ll let you know how it goes.





A-A
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