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Theme Parks: Bavarian Themes?
FreakBear
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From: Springfield, Ohio
Posted: 2004-11-24 3:28 pm   Permalink

I have noted the use of Germanic or Bavarian themes in at least 2 Ohio amusement parks. Is/was this a common trend accross the country? German heritage has relevance especially in the Cincinatti area, home of (now Paramount's) King's Island which has a traditional Octoberfest event and architectural affects. Cedar Point, in Sandusky Ohio, sports similar architecture (as well as possible remnants of polynesian style). Could be some all but lost pop-culture history.
-FB


 
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Gigantalope
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Posted: 2004-11-24 6:36 pm   Permalink

Clearly Old Walt visited lots of old world places when he built Disneyland...The original Disneyland had tons of influance from Northern Europe...(The original Type face was really Bavarian on the sign out front)

Most Beer Gardens have a German thing going on.

There are a few towns that in post war California got wierd themes. Kingsburg on 99 is Sweedish, and Solvang on 1 is Danish.

There too is a wierd German place in Huntington Beach that was built in the late 70's...fake rocks, and cute houses. It's pretty cool...I think it was called "Old World"
While attending Golden West College, I staggered out of the Ratskeller more than once. (tired from study)

There's a town in Washington where everything's Suisse or German. It's tidy and quite a surprize if you just happen onto it.

I think it's called Levenworth, but I may be mixing it up with someplace else.

Another place kind of like that in Nova Scotia is called Lunenburg. It was a German settlement, and remains sort of differnt from the towns around it of it's own age.

Not really parks tho...



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dogbytes
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Posted: 2004-11-24 9:14 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2004-11-24 18:36, Gigantalope wrote:
There's a town in Washington where everything's Suisse or German.



Bavarian ~ not a theme park, per se ~ will post pics after christmas, as that's where we're going (our friends are renting a ski lodge, but we really dislike his mother-in-law, so we're getting a room elsewhere ) weird christmas if you ask me... dragging all our stuff over the river & thru the woods.. i'm trying to be excited about this adventure. well, at least my dogs will have fun in the snow!

www.leavenworth.org

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tikifish
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Posted: 2004-11-24 9:21 pm   Permalink

Frankenmuth. Michigan, is a sort of Bavarian themed town, plus they have the world's largest Christmas store - Bonner's! Crazy! You can get christmas ornaments of tacos, cactus, fish, pickles, whatever you are into, they have it. Come to think of it, Im sure they must have had a hula or tiki ornament but I never thought to look for it...

 
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FreakBear
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Posted: 2004-11-24 9:25 pm   Permalink

I almost forgot about Michigan -- Frankenmuethe (SP?) and Holland. Both kitchy themed tourist spots. Frankenmuethe has a year round Christmas store that is quite surreal. I'm not particularly into the theme but both are worthy of the road trip.
-FB

Tikifish- we must have posted these at the same time. Wierd!

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tikifish
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Posted: 2004-11-24 9:41 pm   Permalink

Whooo, that is weird! Holly, Michigan, on the way to Frankenmuth, used to have a cool old tiki bar too... long gone.

http://tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=1821&forum=5

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Gigantalope
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Posted: 2004-11-24 9:53 pm   Permalink

THAT's a wierd German thing.
the pickle on the Christmas Tree.



 
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aquaorama
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Posted: 2004-11-24 10:40 pm   Permalink

I seem to remember Busch Gardens in Williamsburg Virginia having a "German / Bavarian" section. Of course that was back in 1997.

 
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FreakBear
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Posted: 2004-11-24 11:30 pm   Permalink

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On 2004-11-24 21:53, Gigantalope wrote:
THAT's a wierd German thing.
the pickle on the Christmas Tree.





My mom started doing that pickle thing a few X-mas's ago. We do have quite a bit of German in our geneology. Used to get a lot of Gelt-style chocolate on the holiday too.

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On 2004-11-24 21:41, tikifish wrote:
Whooo, that is weird! Holly, Michigan, on the way to Frankenmuth, used to have a cool old tiki bar too... long gone.

http://tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=1821&forum=5



I love the menu pic of this! Cool "Zombie" and "Mister Foo" mugs!

-FB

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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2004-11-24 11:43 pm   Permalink

More info on the German Pickle Tradition from http://german.about.com/library/blgermyth11.htm

Bottom line? Don't buy into it.

Here's an excerpt:
It never fails. Every December someone asks about the German Christmas pickle ornament that's supposed to have a long tradition in Germany.

Here's the pickle “legend” from one Web site: “A very old Christmas eve tradition in Germany was to hide a pickle [ornament] deep in the branches of the family Christmas Tree. The parents hung the pickle last after all the other ornaments were in place. In the morning they knew the most observant child would receive an extra gift from St. Nicholas. The first adult who finds the pickle traditionally gets good luck for the whole year.” This Christmas pickle story, with a few minor variations, can be found all over the Web and in print inside the ornament package. It says that Germans hang a pickle-shaped glass ornament on the Christmas tree hidden away so it's difficult to find. The first child to find it on Christmas morning gets a special treat.

Of course, anyone familiar with German Christmas customs can see the flaws in this “legend.” First of all, the German St. Nick doesn't show up on Christmas Eve. He arrives on the 5th or 6th of December. Nor do German children open their presents on Christmas morning. That happens on Christmas Eve in Germany. (See our German Christmas Guide for more about German Christmas customs.)

But the biggest problem with the German pickle (saure Gurke) tradition is that no one in Germany has ever heard of it. Over the years this question has often come up on the AATG (German Teachers) forum. Teachers of German in the US and in Europe have never been able to find a native German who has even heard of the pickle legend, much less carried out this Christmas custom. It seems to have been some German-American invention by someone who wanted to sell more glass ornaments for Christmas.




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FreakBear
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Posted: 2004-11-24 11:44 pm   Permalink

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On 2002-12-01 17:35, tikifish wrote:
...Welcome to Holly Gardens Rehab Centre, formerly Hawaiian Gardens! Tai'd on one too many Mai Tai's? Experiencing Rumaki Remorse? You've come to the right place!





Hey I think I stayed here around '95 or '96! At the time it was a German-themed motel. The room and especially bathroom was a step into the 50s!
-FB


 
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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2004-11-24 11:46 pm   Permalink

Cool place. I stayed there last week.

 
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Gigantalope
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Posted: 2004-11-24 11:49 pm   Permalink

It's funny that the people I know who are German-Americans (Italians have this in common) seem to have a stronger feeling about Germany as a whole. My friends actually from Germany have very fragmented views of other Germans actually being as German as themselves.

Schwabians thinking Bavarians are not authentic Germans...they don't speak TRU German etc.

As an outsider, it's comical.

Anybody else experiance this?



 
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tikifish
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Posted: 2004-11-25 07:27 am   Permalink

I bought the pickle ornament at Bonner's and indeed, it had a listing of the german pickle legend printed in the box. However, I just thought it was cool to have a pickle on the tree.

 
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Gigantalope
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Posted: 2004-11-25 09:22 am   Permalink

That re-hab tiki village is great. It wouldn't be as frightfull if it had morphed into anything else.

The Dutch have some traditions too (Zebra can elaborate on this) Besides Sinterklaas is Zwarte Piet (Swarte Pyt?) who accompanies thier Father Christmas.

He is from Afrika and if you are a bad kid, as I understand it, he will haul your ass away. The The picures I've seen of show in in a huge yellow and orange hat and I must say he looks like an illustrated version of "Rooster" from "Baretta"

Anyone else know this one?



 
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