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MaiTaiMafia
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Joined: Dec 03, 2004
Posts: 84
From: Kapolei, HI
Posted: 2004-12-18 1:49 pm   Permalink

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What are the gun laws in Hawaii like? Shoot a couple of these assholes and word will get out real quick to stay away.



Gun laws are the same as everywhere. And if you shoot 'em, shoot 'em dead and drag them into your house before you dial 911

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I'd glue the alarm up inside the body of the decoration with JB weld and anchor the pin near the decoration.



I like the alarm-under-the-tiki idea, but the hornets-inside-the-tiki would be just so much more fun to watch!!!
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captnkirk
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Joined: Nov 06, 2002
Posts: 322
From: Hockessin, Delaware
Posted: 2004-12-19 11:10 pm   Permalink

There are no restrictions that I could find on non-felons owning any type of guns in Hawaii.

Yes, for you Rambos out there, you can get a class 3 weapon there if you want one. Just apply for a federal licence and pick out your weapon, fill out some paperwork, pay a $200 fee. Pretty soon you can be protecting your tikis with belt fed machine guns and a grenade laucher if you need to.

Speaking of extreme tiki protection technology, is there any reason I can not hide a lojack transmitter in a tiki? I'm sure many people on this forum have tikis more valuable than their cars. It would sure take the guess work out of finding a stolen tiki if the lojack people would let you install one.


 
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tikijackalope
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Joined: Oct 23, 2003
Posts: 820
From: KS/MO
Posted: 2004-12-20 7:31 pm   Permalink

Speaking of lojack transmitters, is there a reliable chip that allows one's GPS unit (or something similar) to locate it? I read about this a couple years back as an up-and-coming technology aimed at tracking children in case of abduction.

 
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RevBambooBen
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Joined: Nov 12, 2002
Posts: 7454
From: Huntikington Beach
Posted: 2004-12-20 8:30 pm   Permalink

Instead of putting a tracking system in your tiki and then having to go and deal with all the politics of claiming it etc., just make a trap bomb, or a flash bang, etc. I used to have a shop in Santa Ana and our yards would get robbed all the time. My neighbor put a flash/trap under the hood of his truck (they used to steal his battery all the time) and one day we found blood on the ground, under the hood and a finger too! Score!

Booby trapping your outside tikis is the only way.


 
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Jungle Trader
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Joined: Jan 04, 2003
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From: Trader's Jungle Outpost, Turlock, Ca.
Posted: 2004-12-20 10:48 pm   Permalink

After gettin some botanicals ripped off (back in the day), we put razor blades in the stalks. Found a little blood one morning which abrubtly halted any further slitherin'. We then told the snake we suspected of doing it that we would next hook up a shot gun trap. Never saw him again.
Can't do that these daze, the guy would hire a lawyer and sue yer ass and win. Oh for the daze!!
Yeah, if somebody gets hurt while ripping you off, you get sued. That's bass ackwards.

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MaiTaiMafia
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Joined: Dec 03, 2004
Posts: 84
From: Kapolei, HI
Posted: 2004-12-20 11:12 pm   Permalink

I was just going to say the same thing. Some guy gets hurt stealing your property(by some anti-theft deviced you've installed)and YOU can go to jail! That's why I've never hooked my car's battery up to the door handles! The thief would probably have a cardiac arrest and I'd go to jail for manslaughter...

That's why the hornets-in-the-tiki is so ingenious: no one can never prove that you put them there!!!
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CaseyJPS
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Joined: May 14, 2003
Posts: 184
From: Palm Springs
Posted: 2004-12-21 10:19 am   Permalink

This is all very encouraging, but I'm terribly non-mechanical, so to speak. SOunds like we need a pro-active team to combat the "TLO" .

One of our modern-day carvings was stolen early in 2004, from next to the whirlpool. We have since replaced him with a guy who is buried a considerable distance below his "waterline." There have been quite a few tikis stolen from the tropics over the years (remnants of their foundations still exist). I guess it would be an excellent idea to not only catalog what we have, but work at further securing those we have (and are adding to).
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Jungle Trader
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From: Trader's Jungle Outpost, Turlock, Ca.
Posted: 2004-12-21 9:43 pm   Permalink

Casey, here's how I secured the tikis at Whanga Rei Bar and Grill in Turlock.
I used a post hole digger to dig 2 to 3 ft. down. Insert a peeler core or large lodge pole (6 inch dia.) and about 8 ft. long into that hole then pour in concrete. At this time I also layed out a little concrete for the tiki to stand on. You don't want the tiki to touch the ground or it will rot. In the back of the tikis I carved out approx. 6 inches of wood so the lodge pole would fit snug inside. Then fastened it all the way thru with 4 or 5 10" wood bolts. So the bolts go thru the pole and into the tiki. The poles were treated so they won't rot. It would take a lot of time and effort to steal them. I would never ever bury a tiki in the ground with or without concrete around it. The concrete would hold some moisture and rot it also.
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8FT Tiki
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Joined: Nov 30, 2003
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From: Kansas City, MO
Posted: 2004-12-22 09:28 am   Permalink

I know you all love the idea of having a swarm of tiki protecting hornets attacking a would be thief. However, I have to say that it just wouldn't deter them very much. Speaking from my own personal first hand experience with that very thing. When I adopted old 8FT himself, he was outside and (unknown to us) had a whole nest of the stinging buggers inside. As soon as we noticed that, we grabbed a handful of tall grass and shoved it in the opening which cut off the assault. Then I didn't have to deal with them again until after we moved him and I began the restoration process. Even then I only got stung once while I removed the large hornets nest from inside the tiki.

I think it would be funny if you could rig up your outside tikis so that they would just piss all over anyone who jostled them.

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freddiefreelance
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Joined: Feb 15, 2003
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From: San Diego, Ca.
Posted: 2004-12-22 11:52 am   Permalink

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On 2004-12-22 09:28, 8FT Tiki wrote:
I think it would be funny if you could rig up your outside tikis so that they would just piss all over anyone who jostled them.



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Aaron's Akua
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Joined: Jul 09, 2004
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From: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
Posted: 2004-12-23 5:30 pm   Permalink

SCTikiShack just recently posted this account of his tiki stolen by a bunch of bikers. It ended well, and the tiki lived to tell the tale.

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the75stingray
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Joined: Mar 24, 2002
Posts: 447
From: Dayton, Ohio
Posted: 2004-12-27 12:54 pm   Permalink

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On 2004-12-20 20:30, RevBambooBen wrote:
Instead of putting a tracking system in your tiki and then having to go and deal with all the politics of claiming it etc., just make a trap bomb, or a flash bang, etc. I used to have a shop in Santa Ana and our yards would get robbed all the time. My neighbor put a flash/trap under the hood of his truck (they used to steal his battery all the time) and one day we found blood on the ground, under the hood and a finger too! Score!

Booby trapping your outside tikis is the only way.



OH that is PRICELESS! I usually just let the Rott loose and when he comes back with some material (flesh or fabric makes no difference to me) then I am happy and he gets his treat.

In the State of Ohio, under revised code 4947.01, (as pertaining to P.I.'s & Security Guards)you may use deadly force only when:
1.) You are in Fear of your life or the life of another. (They don't allow for objects, I've already checked!)

Your target must possess:
1.) The INTENT to do you harm,
2.) The ABILITY to harm you,
3.) The OPPORTUNITY to harm you,
4.) And you must feel that your life is in JEOPARDY.

The cause of action must be:
1.) Logical
2.) Reasonable
3.) Neccessary

So, the old 'dragging the body inside trick' doesnt work here...you must 'invite' them inside and then suggest that they possed an immediate threat, had a weapon and clearly intended to utilize that weapon.

Those handy GPS tracking devices are getting more affordable every week - you know, the kinds that you can sneek onto your kids vehicle and see where they are going at any time? Ohhhh yeah, baby! But the booby trap idea is nifty too...until you bump it with the lawn mower and KA-BLEWIE! Nope, I'll stick with the tracking systems, a bad ass dog and several firearms at my disposal.
America is a great country!

Heaven help the poor soul who attempts to steal my tiki's!


 
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MachTiki
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Joined: Feb 16, 2004
Posts: 1363
From: San Diego, CA
Posted: 2005-04-12 07:10 am   Permalink

Now it's happened to our friends at "Bamboo2U and Tikis Too".

From this mornings San Diego Union Tribune:
Tikis stolen from North Coast shop

LEUCADIA Sheriff's investigators are looking into the theft of more than a half-dozen tikis over the weekend from a North Coast tropical decorations store.

The tikis, carved from palm trees, were stolen late Friday or early Saturday from outside the Bamboo2U and Tikis Too store on Coast Highway 101, said store owner Judy Swain.

Each tiki is valued at more than $1,000, she said.

The carvings, some of which stand up to 6 feet, were chained together outside the store. Thieves unscrewed the eyebolt in each tiki that held it to the chain, Swain said.

Gregory Alan Gross

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Tiki Matt
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Joined: Jul 06, 2004
Posts: 924
From: North O.C.
Posted: 2005-04-12 08:28 am   Permalink

$1000 tikis? WOW

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Aaron's Akua
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Joined: Jul 09, 2004
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From: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
Posted: 2005-04-12 09:55 am   Permalink

Judy's cool people. She sold my first tikis for me, and paid up front, not consignment. So I guess she took a big loss here. Does anyone know how to reach her? I lost touch after the shop moved from Oceanside to Leucadia. Maybe we could get some pics posted and see if anyone runs across them.
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