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Aaron's Akua
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Posted: 2004-12-23 1:38 pm   Permalink

Are there any TC tiki detectives out there? I have an urban archaeology challenge for you.

I met Maureen Thompson via email through a mutual friend – K.C. Heylin (former Hawaiiana dealer, and current proprieter of
http://www.beachdudeinc.com.)

Maureen has a tiki in her backyard that she acquired some time ago. She would like to find out the origins of it. Here are the clues, according to Maureen:

“It is a bit over 6' tall, solid wood carved, heavy...4 men walked it into the yard.”

"It came from 2401 Hollywood Blvd., the house belonged to Dale Sherwood, she was born around 1924 which would have made her in her late 70's when she passed away in 2002. She was in show business, bit acting parts, mainly a stuntwoman and at one point a private detective."

"It was in her yard, she has a hook behind it's head where it was fastened to something so it would not fall over. It also has a carved hammer that came with it."

"I do not have any further information regarding where she got it, possibly from one of the films she appeared in.”


Here are some photos taken by Maureen. Her email address is movolume@comcast.net.









Does anyone have any ideas on this?

Cheers!

A-A


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Tangaroa
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Posted: 2004-12-23 1:47 pm   Permalink

Looks a little like one out of Adventureland at Disneyland in the 50s. The pic is buried at home though - so I may not get to compare it till after Xmas...
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freddiefreelance
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Posted: 2004-12-23 2:27 pm   Permalink

I found Dale Sherwood on IMDb as Gale Sherwood:

Quote:

Gale Sherwood

Date of birth (location) 4 March 1929

Trivia
She was the nightclub partner of Nelson Eddy until his death in 1967.

Sometimes Credited As:
Jacqueline Nash
Dale Sherwood

IMDbPro Professional Details

Actress - filmography
(1950s) (1940s) (1930s)

A Connecticut Yankee (1955) (TV)
Naughty Marietta (1955) (TV) .... Yvonne
The Desert Song (1955) (TV) .... Margot
The Merry Widow (1952) (uncredited) .... Maxim Girl


Song of My Heart (1948) .... Sophia
Rocky (1948)
Blonde Savage (1947) .... Meelah

Border Roundup (1942) (as Dale Sherwood) .... Waitress
... aka The Lone Rider in Border Roundup (USA)
Raiders of the West (1942) (uncredited) .... Gwen (saloon girl)
Let's Make Music (1941) (as Jacqueline Nash) .... High School Singer


They Shall Have Music (1939) (as Jacqueline Nash) .... Betty
... aka Melody of Youth (UK)
... aka Ragged Angels (USA: reissue title)



Tom Rosqui, left, Gale Sherwood and Reginald Denny

"The Red Mill", from the first season of the Music Circus, 1951



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Aaron's Akua
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Posted: 2004-12-23 5:26 pm   Permalink

WOW! What a hottie! I love that "Blonde Savage" poster.

 
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Tiki Diablo
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Posted: 2004-12-24 12:08 am   Permalink

OA all the way!

 
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Aaron's Akua
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Posted: 2004-12-26 1:01 pm   Permalink

Thanks, Danny. Does anyone have an old Oceanic Arts catalog? Would it be in there? Or do you think it just has the look of a Leroy Schmaltz carving?

I know Maureen wants to authenticate it somehow. Like maybe a picture or scan from the catalog. We're kind of wondering how old it is. It looks pretty weathered.

Any and all thoughts appreciated.

Mahalo!

Aaron
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Tangaroa
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Posted: 2004-12-27 08:54 am   Permalink

Here ya go Aaron.

Disneyland, entrance to Adventureland - 1959.

Most likely Oceanic Arts - I don't have a catalog showing this guy though. So - he is probably identical to a similar series, if not the same one.


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Aaron's Akua
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Posted: 2004-12-29 1:56 pm   Permalink

Thanks, Freddie, Chiki & Tangaroa. I think we've just about got this one nailed. I emailed Bob at Oceanic Arts.

Bob: "Aloha Aaron: The original Rarotongan Tiki from the Cook Islands in hardwood was imported from Samoa and sold to Disney by Cargoes by Carter when they first opened. We at Oceanic Arts carved quite a few of these in Palmwood. I still have a 30 yrs old one at home in excellent condition.
Most of ours were carved by Ed Crissman, who carved from us for over 20 years. He is no longer alive. Most of these he did were at our shop in the 1960's. We sold them for about $120.00 per foot of height.
If it is hardwood then it was carved in Samoa for Cargoes by Carter an early supplier of tropical decor.

Bob


So, I guess the only thing we need to do is figure out if it's palm or hardwood. I've checked the photos, but its really hard for me to tell with all of the weathering and all. I've not inspected it personally, just the pics that Maureen emailed to me.

Does anyone venture to guess as to the type of wood from looking at the pics?
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Humuhumu
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Posted: 2004-12-29 2:17 pm   Permalink

Ed Crissman also did the carvings for the Ken Kimes Tropics chain of motels (the most notable one being our dear Caliente Tropics in Palm Springs). His tikis can still be seen at the Palm Springs and Modesto locations, the PS ones are better cared for, naturally.

However, that tiki looks to me like it's carved from hardwood. I'm no expert, though.

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8FT Tiki
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Posted: 2004-12-29 5:45 pm   Permalink

Ed Crissman also carved our 8ft Kona Kai tiki. It is palmwood and had been outside in the elements for awhile. Comparing the look of the grains leads me to believe that the mysterious tiki X is hardwood.



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Posted: 2004-12-30 01:54 am   Permalink

The wood is hard fo sho!

 
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Aaron's Akua
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Posted: 2004-12-30 2:00 pm   Permalink

Okay, let’s go with hardwood. That’s what I was leaning toward also. Further evidence is that it is very heavy. According to Maureen “It is a bit over 6' tall, solid wood carved, heavy...4 men walked it into the yard.”.

So, here’s what I have so far based on everyone’s input.

Name: "Rarotongan Tiki from The Cook Islands”.
Origin: Samoa.
Imported by: Cargoes by Carter.
Material: Hardwood (type unknown).
Approx. Age: 25 to 45 years old.


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Unfortunately, I know nothing about “Cargoes by Carter”. Tried a few web searches and came up with nothing. Searching Tiki Central came up with only one this one hit:
Urban Archeology with BigBro, Sabu & Tangaroa

Quote:

On 2004-12-03 16:22, Tangaroa wrote:

Here's Sabu looking through a super-rare 'Cargoes By Carter' catalogue...






That was a really excellent and informative post, Tangaroa. Can you, Sabu, or BigBro shed any light on this seemingly defunct importer of tropical décor? Or anyone else for that matter?

Better yet, does anyone have a copy of the rare "Cargoes by Carter" Catalogue? Is this tiki listed in it?

Would this tiki be rarer, or more collectible if it is indeed a C.b.C. tiki rather than an O.A. tiki?

Thanks for helping with all of these questions!

A-A

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Posted: 2004-12-30 2:26 pm   Permalink

You can see by the checking it IS Hardwood, and it has a lot of deterioration and needs to be sealed
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Tangaroa
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Posted: 2004-12-30 2:26 pm   Permalink

Well - I have that catalogue Sabu is holding in my possession right now - I could scan it & upload small-rez versions of the pages, but I've already checked & that tiki isn't in there....

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Posted: 2004-12-30 2:27 pm   Permalink

You can see by the checking it IS Hardwood, and it has a lot of deterioration and needs to be sealed.
Excellent story with Great input.
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