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Would you prefer Tiki as 'mainstream' or 'underground'?
Grand Member (7 years)  

Joined: Apr 03, 2008
Posts: 2471
From: Deep in the Jacksonville Florida jungle.
Posted: 2017-05-04 05:32 am   Permalink


On 2017-05-03 21:55, EnchantedTikiGoth wrote:
I have the feeling like a bigger hotel would just mean MORE rooms sell out in five minutes. Or maybe they could stretch it out to six minutes before they sell out. I guess it'd be great for that many more people, but is that many more people necessarily creating a better experience?

I wonder if the event could somehow address that demand by splitting the event (and the attendees) into TWO events in TWO locations. One event would focus on poly-pop and tiki, and the other event would cater to the other genres for those who don't go for tiki specifically. If it works well two years in a row, great, keep doing it. If not, go back to the original format. If you succeed, there could be much more profit from being able to accommodate more attendees AND you may improve the experience for both groups of attendees.

(Otto, PM me, and I'll let you know where to send my check, lol...)

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Joined: Jul 23, 2013
Posts: 805
Posted: 2017-05-08 10:36 am   Permalink

Jumping in late, but these days I'd prefer tiki to remain underground - I've had enough of star wars, star trek, guardians of the galaxy, gremlins, and aliens "tiki mugs."
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Joined: Feb 05, 2017
Posts: 20
From: Virginia
Posted: 2017-05-09 09:11 am   Permalink

I blame Spongebob and Instagram.

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Joined: Dec 20, 2011
Posts: 52
From: North America
Posted: 2017-05-17 11:26 pm   Permalink

As someone that's been to many events, fests, cons with over 50,000, tiki o is small. It's not mainstream. Santacon NYC gets 20,000 or so! Tiki bars are a very niche thing outside of a few cities. Since most don beachcomber , trader vics and other restaurants have closed its a smaller niche now.

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20th Century Man
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Joined: Feb 21, 2012
Posts: 56
From: Thousand Oaks, CA
Posted: 2017-05-18 12:43 pm   Permalink

Somewhere in the middle. "Understream?"

My wife and I, too, have been hesitant to joining the insanity/frivolity at Oasis because its scope of interest has gone IMHO beyond old-school tiki's "borders."
Rockabilly, rat rods, tattoos, pin-ups, and other tangental interests are the antithesis of tiki's South Pacific island, 50s-60s lounge, rat pack, and exotica themes.
I'm talking Alohawear and tropical rum drinks. We have been delighted to attend Hukilau in Ft. Lauderdale (fantastic!) on a couple of occasions and Rory's Mod-Palm Springs.
We'd love to attend Tiki Caliente sometime. These events are much more authentic to post-war tiki's "roots" and that works for us. We would rather spend a fun
weekend with a few hundred tiki enthusiasts rather than 6000-7000 partiers.


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Jungle Jeff

Joined: Apr 16, 2017
Posts: 4
Posted: 2017-05-19 07:56 am   Permalink

I like it underground occasionally popping my head above ground to see what everyone is doing.

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Joined: Oct 05, 2008
Posts: 948
From: Agoura Hills, CA
Posted: 2017-05-27 4:01 pm   Permalink

Val and I have been witness to a pattern that plays out over and over in the music industry. One you all have undoubtedly seen yourselves. No judgment here, it just happens.

Many years ago, we caught wind of a band who went by the name of Arcade Fire. We went to their shows over the years, shows that gradually moved to larger venues. They still connected with the audience, but on a larger scale. In 2014, on the Reflector tour, they played at the Forum in Los Angeles (well, Inglewood actually). We sat up in the rafters (in our matching Vantiki Kon Tiki shirt and dress) and enjoyed the show. When it was over, I leaned over and kissed Val on the cheek and said "they're not ours anymore".

I'll still fight the good fight because I want to help share the knowledge of where tiki came from and what it means. But I also know it has escaped.

See you in San Diego, and at SG101.


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King Bushwich the 33rd
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Joined: Jan 10, 2005
Posts: 1623
From: Ling Cod Beach, CA 90803
Posted: 2018-02-25 1:36 pm   Permalink

There seems to be less small intimate tiki events but lots of Tiki news stories on TV and Disneyland has increased it's tiki elements.

Timeout Los Angeles: Disneyland’s adding a new market and restaurant, the Tropical Hideaway, in Adventureland

Has it crossed the underground/Mainstream line yes?

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