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Kentiki
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Joined: Mar 24, 2002
Posts: 86
From: Miami
|  Posted: 2002-10-08 2:42 pm Permalink
Think this is a Witco piece? The grain looks burned like a Witco, but were they painted originally?
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Tiki-Troll
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Joined: Aug 17, 2002
Posts: 122
From: D-LAND FL
| Posted: 2002-10-08 9:37 pm Permalink
I've been to the Hawaiian Inn in Daytona, and they actually have a ton of painted Witco pieces, and I've seen others Witco's that are painted too. I don't know enough to tell you for sure, but the paint does not mean its not.
Cool Piece either way though!
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laney
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Joined: May 20, 2002
Posts: 631
From: orange county CA
| Posted: 2002-10-09 09:48 am Permalink
One of my bars came with a leopard shield with a painted mask on it. I thought the previous owners painted it but it is the same colors as your piece. I'd say, yes, and I guess I won't strip the paint off mine. I like them without the paint, though.
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Kailuageoff
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Joined: Mar 27, 2002
Posts: 1486
From: Honolulu Lounge,Lewes, DE
| Posted: 2002-10-09 12:22 pm Permalink
Nice Mask! The carving looks Witco, but the Witco wahine piece I have is painted in softer colors. Also, I think a lot of the stuff at the Hawaiian Inn has been re-painted in brighter shades and varnished, or re-done with black light paints. BigBro probably knows for sure whether this is Witco, and if the colors are original, because he has their catalogs.
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bigbrotiki
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 10566
From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2002-10-09 4:25 pm Permalink
Kentiki- there are tons of different Witco mask designs, how the @#$ am I gonna tell this apart when it is A.) leaning against another Tiki, and B.) partially obscured by shade...
Well, it does seem to be a Witco, and I don't think those were the original colors.
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keigs20
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Joined: Jun 02, 2002
Posts: 528
From: WA
| Posted: 2002-10-09 6:15 pm Permalink
It is a Witco piece. I found a picture of it in a Witco catelog. It is called a Ceremonial Mask painted in varied hues of color. If you want a picture of it in the catelog email me k.pleasantjr@verizon.net
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Kentiki
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Joined: Mar 24, 2002
Posts: 86
From: Miami
| Posted: 2002-10-10 08:43 am Permalink
Thanks everyone for your input. I'm happy to give the mask a good home whatever brand it is or isn't, but provenience is always interesting.
Hey Bigbro--yeah it isn't a great pic, but I didn't wanna bog down people's browsers with a million $#%@^%$ shots. - And besides, I never even asked you, ya snotty Kraut!
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tikijackalope
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Joined: Oct 23, 2003
Posts: 814
From: KS/MO
| Posted: 2004-06-25 5:26 pm Permalink
OK, so Witco did paint some pieces. But would they have used metallic silver or was this done, as I would presume, post-purchase?
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Turbogod
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Joined: Jun 14, 2002
Posts: 1219 | Posted: 2004-06-25 5:43 pm Permalink
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On 2004-06-25 17:26, tikijackalope wrote:
OK, so Witco did paint some pieces. But would they have used metallic silver or was this done, as I would presume, post-purchase?
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travesty. Kinda sad. Reminds of the painted game table. I remember seeing it on Ebay when it was still in it's natural color, but didn't bid because I assumed it was going to go skyhigh. I could've saved it. 
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tikijackalope
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Joined: Oct 23, 2003
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From: KS/MO
| Posted: 2004-06-25 5:48 pm Permalink
Yes, but who committed the travesty?
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Turbogod
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Joined: Jun 14, 2002
Posts: 1219 | Posted: 2004-06-25 5:50 pm Permalink
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On 2004-06-25 17:48, tikijackalope wrote:
Yes, but who committed the travesty?
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Somebody who thought it was an alien?
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tikijackalope
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Joined: Oct 23, 2003
Posts: 814
From: KS/MO
| Posted: 2004-06-25 11:39 pm Permalink
turbogod wrote:
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It makes you wonder if such pieces could still be saved. Can paint be removed from a Witco without messing up the burned outer layer of wood?
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woofmutt
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Joined: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 2584
From: Seattilite Telstar
| Posted: 2004-06-26 09:51 am Permalink
Paint burns off stuff. A few quick passes of the blow torch and some subsequent steel brushing: Paint's gone. But it varies on chemistry and age. Sometimes you luck out and the paint becomes all crumbly and whisks right off with a steel brush. Other times it gums up and has to burned more. In a heavily burned piece, like a Witco, paint may be in crevices or into the grain. A paint remover/ refinish with fire combo may be a better choice for a prized piece. If yer lucky the bozo who painted it in the fist place painted right on top of an original glaze which usually makes paint removal easier, whether it be with a chemical or torch. Like spot remover: Test on an unseen area first. But unlike your tiel and hot pink UltraSuede mini skirt you don't wanna lose a Tiki piece to your cruddy spot removal skills so either practice on some other stuff or find someone who can do it professionally. But remember: In 2017 when original Witcos are going for thousands of dollars your piece won't be worth so much. Plan to fund the kids' education with something else.
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tikijackalope
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Joined: Oct 23, 2003
Posts: 814
From: KS/MO
| Posted: 2004-06-26 11:01 am Permalink
Thanks for the input, woofmutt. I'm so enamored of the one Witco I have (a cat) that I want more, but I keep running across prohibitivly expensive stuff (like furniture for $7000) or damaged goods that *might* be saved and display that grain I love so well.
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FLOUNDERart
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Joined: Sep 02, 2003
Posts: 1140
From: Orlando Florida
| Posted: 2004-06-26 5:14 pm Permalink
Keigs how about these? Seen a lot of Witco but nothing like these.
Look to be Witco and their painted in the soft colous as Kailuageoff mentioned.
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