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diabetes--what the f@%#*
Tiki Socialite

Joined: Jun 19, 2002
Posts: 775
From: Santa Ana, CA.
Posted: 2005-02-04 5:48 pm   Permalink

I mean come on
How do you just all of a sudden get Diabetes
It is not in my family
Is it punishment for not smoking or drinking for 10 almost 11 years
The last fun thing I had was food, and now that has been taken from me
In the long run it will help me and the whole family get in shape
But for now I'm kinda depressed, mad, sad, and for all intensive purposes emotionally unstable
All kinds of new crap to learn
"Lifestyle change" no SHIT
Anyway, guess I better "Simah down now"
Words of wisdom anyone
This must be Bong's fault ! !
I need a drink:( :::::;;;
I need a hug
When this stops being fun
It's our fault
Have no brakes Cannot stop
Happydog (What can I do?)

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Tiki Socialite

Joined: May 20, 2002
Posts: 631
From: orange county CA
Posted: 2005-02-04 6:15 pm   Permalink

man Bax, I'm really sorry to hear this.

I don't know much about it (maybe Humu or SCD?) but if you need anything, we're here for ya!

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Tiki Socialite

Joined: Aug 22, 2002
Posts: 3691
From: San Francisco
Posted: 2005-02-04 6:29 pm   Permalink

Bax, I'm so sorry, this must be quite a shock to deal with.

Have you seen this thread?

Are you a Tiki-betic?

Type 1 or Type 2? Regardless, while this does mean a bit more deliberation in the care you take for yourself, these are changes that will become second nature with time, and you have the opportunity to find yourself in better shape than ever. While you learn the ropes and get your body in fighting shape, it will be easiest to live by a bit of a regimen, but if you take the time to learn about diabetes and what your body needs, you may be able to let some of that flexibility back in again.

If you (or your family) would like to bend my ear about it the next time we see each other, I'd be more than happy to chat. And give you a big hug, though I think that it always ends up being you giving me a hug no matter how hard I try.


Critiki - Critiki News - Ooga-Mooga

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Tiki Socialite

Joined: Mar 24, 2002
Posts: 974
From: Oceanside CA
Posted: 2005-02-05 12:15 am   Permalink

Bax, I'm sorry to hear this bad news, Shelley and I send all our best. Truth be told, my friend, you bestride the world as a colossus, you are bulletproof, a man among men. In the the long run, may this be a speedbump and not a roadblock. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

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Trader Woody
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 2301
From: Tiki Manor, Forest of Bowland,UK
Posted: 2005-02-05 12:52 am   Permalink


That's rotten news & particularly harsh when it comes out of the blue like that. I know that's what happens with diabetes sometimes, but it just doesn't seem to make sense.

I've a friend who turned to me while we were sitting in a restaurant and said, "Did you just see that?" I said, "No, what?" And he replied, "I just injected myself with insulin". I guess what that shows is that it all gets easier to deal with as time goes past.

Anyway, no doubt the first few weeks of this will be the toughest, so my thoughts are with you.

Trader Woody

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Unga Bunga
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Joined: Jun 06, 2003
Posts: 5859
From: CaliTikifornia
Posted: 2005-02-05 01:41 am   Permalink

Why does shit happin to the nicest people?
You are definitely a survivor, so this is obviously another bump in the road.
You should come out with a sugar free Orgeat and you’ll definitely make some money out of this ordeal.
Only the best to ya and hang in there!

Oh It Looks Good On You Though!

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Tiki Socialite

Joined: Feb 29, 2004
Posts: 599
From: outside the windy city
Posted: 2005-02-05 07:00 am   Permalink

Keep a good thought-know that the more people that know about this,the more people can send good thoughts your way.I'm thinking them for you right now.

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Tiki Socialite

Joined: Jan 09, 2004
Posts: 10397
From: Port Saint Lucie, Florida
Posted: 2005-02-05 07:53 am   Permalink

Bax I'm sure you will be able to deal with this with all our help. You know we are all behind you 100%. It's a bitch when you find out something like this and takes a little while to get used to the fact that changes are coming and that you Will survive. The big "Why" question is always there and Never answered, but the rest of the questions we have covered.
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask for help when you need it.
We Love ya

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Tiki Socialite

Joined: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 253
From: So Cal
Posted: 2005-02-05 10:04 am   Permalink

Sweetest Baxdog

I, like you, got hit with this crap out of the blue about 11 years ago. IT'S NOT FAIR!!
I also had quite smoking, cut way back on any drinking, playing ball 3-4 nights a week, in other words doing all the things that I should be doing. Spent a lot of time wondering WHY?. Spent even more time bugging the doctors to find out WHY? After the next four years I finally just said, I got it. The first year or two I was very rigid with myself with food, medication, lifestyle. Did not seem to work well for me in the long run. Later I made the decision that I would not deprive myself of at least my annual margarita. While still fighting the battle every day, I remind myself that this is JUST A CONDITION, not who I am. I make sure that when I indulge it is within reason and is with the people that I care about. The food things are just a habit that everyone should work towards anyway. Not always easy but something that can be integrated into the process of living. As someone who seems to be an active, healthy guy this should not be something that should get you down. Keeping up your always sparkling attitude , surrounding yourself with your loved ones, and enjoying life to the BAX, that's the way to make it through this little bump.

Let me know if I can help. Call me anytime.

That all around sweet guy


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Johnny Dollar
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Joined: Oct 01, 2003
Posts: 3070
From: Columbus, Ohiya
Posted: 2005-02-05 4:59 pm   Permalink

dogg... you will survive.
we're behind you -
you are a force of nature.

all the best, j$


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Tiki Diablo
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Joined: Jun 24, 2002
Posts: 1916
From: socal
Posted: 2005-02-06 12:07 am   Permalink

I got a big hug for ya you vanilla gorilla!

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Tiki Socialite

Joined: Jun 24, 2002
Posts: 1345
Posted: 2005-02-06 10:06 am   Permalink

Sorry to hear this Bax. The Pineapples thoughts and best wishes are with you.

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Tiki Socialite

Joined: Jun 19, 2002
Posts: 775
From: Santa Ana, CA.
Posted: 2005-02-06 10:23 am   Permalink

A little history in the looking back department.
May 8th 2005 will be 11 years of no drinking and no smoking(blah blah blah)
My weight over these years has gone up and down, mostly up(according to the Diabetes weight chart I am a hideous troll)
Regular doctor visits, "a little high blood pressure and you could eat less".
My Cholestrol has always been +- 170, can't explain that.
So 21/2 years ago I have Carpel Tunnel surgery, great results, blood work the same.
BUT now I'm on high blood pressure meds and my thyroid is effed up too.
OK no real lifestyle change, then 1.5 years ago I could not stay awake in the afternoon.
Sleep test shows that I hold my breath while I sleep 50 times an hour(Apnea)So I have my tonsils removed my punching bag removed and roto-rooter was called in to ream out my sinuses(very painful but would not trade the results for anything)
Allright, blood work still the same!
So the day I started this thread was a super low bummer day.
My blood work came back from my physical.
Chlorestrol 600 Triglycerides 2000 Glucose 364
My wonderful Doc. leaves a message on my cell "call me I have bad news" I could not get in touch with her for 14 hours(torture)
Diabetes type II(sorry sugerless Caddy Daddy)
Then I totally change the way I eat, one week later Sara and I go to our first Diabetes class thru Hoag Hospital and I get my new meter. They tell me I should blow a 135, well first I get a Hba1c test and blow a 13.5 (not so good)glucose reading 326 then over the next 2 days my glucose goes 253,339,182,300
I'm on the new meds, I think I am eating right so I break down.
I failed my work I failed my family and friends I am just a complete failure.
I mean what the eff is going on, I take care of everyone, work, family, friends and now I need help (I don't know how to except this)
So I post when I calm down a little bit, and low and behold with a little more time and the love of my TC family traveling thru the airways I feel much better. Thanks BONG!!
I thank each and everyone of you for your kind thoughts, I thank my wonderful wife and kids who are closer to me now than ever before.
I know I will get thru this, and those of you who know me know that I will go over board trying to be better.
My keyboard is all wet with tears (sniff choke gasp wheez)

Thanks again and now back to your regular programming(sp)

The Dog loves you all

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Tiki Socialite

Joined: Apr 25, 2002
Posts: 1564
Posted: 2005-02-06 10:58 am   Permalink

Sorry to hear that Bax - our best wishes are with ya....

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Tiki Socialite

Joined: Jun 19, 2002
Posts: 775
From: Santa Ana, CA.
Posted: 2005-02-06 11:29 am   Permalink

George Carlin's Views on Aging
I think he's got it.

Do you realize that the only time in our lives when we like to get old is when we're kids? If you're less than 10 years old, you're so excited about aging that you think in fractions.

"How old are you?" "I'm four and a half!" You're never thirty-six and a half. You're four and a half, going on five!

That's the key.

You get into your teens, now they can't hold you back. You jump to the next number, or even a few ahead.

"How old are you?" "I'm gonna be 16!" You could be 13, but hey, you're gonna be 16! And then the greatest day of your life . . . you become 21. Even the words sound like a ceremony . . . YOU BECOME 21. YESSSS!!!

But then you turn 30. Oooohh, what happened there? Makes you sound like bad milk! He TURNED; we had to throw him out. There's no fun now, you're just a sour-dumpling What's wrong? What's changed?

You BECOME 21, you TURN 30, then you're PUSHING 40.

Whoa! Put on the brakes, it's all slipping away. Before you know it, you REACH 50 and your dreams are gone.

But wait!!! You MAKE it to 60. You didn't think you would!

So you BECOME 21, TURN 30, PUSH 40, REACH 50 and MAKE it to 60.

You've built up so much speed that you HIT 70! After that it's a day-by-day thing; you HIT Wednesday!

You get into your 80s and every day is a complete cycle; you HIT lunch; you TURN 4:30; you REACH bedtime.

And it doesn't end there. Into the 90s, you start going backwards; "I Was JUST 92."

Then a strange thing happens. If you make it over 100, you become a little kid again. "I'm 100 and a half!"

May you all make it to a healthy 100 and a half!!


1. Throw out nonessential numbers. This includes age, weight and height. Let the doctors worry about them. That is why you pay " them " .

2. Keep only cheerful friends. The grouches pull you down.

3. Keep learning. Learn more about the computer, crafts, gardening, whatever. Never let the brain idle. "An idle mind is the devil's workshop." And the devil's name is Alzheimer's.

4. Enjoy the simple things.

5. Laugh often, long and loud. Laugh until you gasp for breath.

6. The tears happen. Endure, grieve, and move on. The only person who is with us our entire life, is ourselves. Be ALIVE while you are alive.

7. Surround yourself with what you love, Whether it's family, pets, keepsakes, music, plants, hobbies, whatever. Your home is your refuge.

8. Cherish your health: If it is good, preserve it. If it is unstable, improve it. If it is beyond what you can improve, get help.

9. Don't take guilt trips. Take a trip to the mall, even to the next county; to a foreign country but NOT to where the guilt is.

10. Tell the people you love that you love them, at every opportunity.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.

And if you don't send this to at least 8 people - who cares?

But do share this with someone. We all need to live life to its fullest each day.

When this stops being fun
It's our fault
Have no brakes Cannot stop
Happydog (What can I do?)

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