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J.Wray&Nephew's DAGGER Dark Jamaica Rum |
bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
|  Posted: 2005-02-12 8:10 pm Permalink
Just to state my orientation upfront: Being a traditional, I do not like any spiced, flavoured, or otherwise messed with fancy modern rums, and I think Bacardi, Malibu and Cpt. Morgan ruined the rum market in America. I like my rum real rummy. So I don't find many new surprises out there.
When visiting the Mai Kai last month I was priviledged to get invited into the back prep bar and was surveying their ancient Rum collection, when an old style label caught my eye, on a plastic "lightweight pack with built-in pourer" 1.75 liter bottle. It was in simple graphics and colors, yellow and green type, with a gold dagger, galleon and award coins on yellow and black background. The rum looked so dark it was almost black. I begged a taste and it was very close to my favourite, the British Demerara Old Navy, rich and thick, with a nice kick. I immediately procured a bottle for me and one for my mixology advisor Beachbum Berry.
I was happily surprised when the Beachbum expressed his delight at receiving the memento, and to hear that he had been under the impression it had been extinct. Apparently the original Zombie recipe called for it, so did other classics.
Now I am interested to find out if anyone on the West Coast has heard or seen this brand anywhere, to see if it can be had in these parts. The U.S. Wholesale importer is Carriage House Ltd., Springfield, N.J.
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Tonnikan Jinn
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From: La Conchita
| Posted: 2005-02-12 9:56 pm Permalink
Never seen it, never heard of it, but extremely interested.
It sounds great. I'd love to try it if I could ever find it.
-T.J.
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Hale Tiki
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From: Pittsburgh
| Posted: 2005-02-13 07:30 am Permalink
I just gave them a call. It's sunday, so no one was there. I left a message, and if I don't hear from them by tuesday, will call again. They're about an hour outside of NYC, 2 hours from where I am. Maybe if things pan out, one of our cityfolk could make a run.
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Trader Tiki
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From: Portland, OR
| Posted: 2005-02-13 08:03 am Permalink
three dagger
Single Dagger
or neither?
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[ This Message was edited by: tikimonkey on 2005-02-13 08:03 ]
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bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2005-02-13 10:59 am Permalink
Neither. -These labels must be from the out of production vintage. Mine is so simple, it is almost industrial looking (together with the plastic gallon container). It certainly is not 3 Dagger 10 year old quality, but it is affordable, hearty stock, good enough for sipping.
Kern from the Mai Tai said that sometimes the distibutor has it, and sometimes not.
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Unga Bunga
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From: CaliTikifornia
| Posted: 2005-02-13 12:33 pm Permalink
Here is another reference to tikimonkey's old bottle.
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bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2005-02-13 1:11 pm Permalink
Aaaah!- The bottle pictured in the "Jean's Dream" recipe:
http://www.cocktaildb.com/recipe_detail?id=4349
is much closer to the label I have, but not exactly the same...
So did J.Wray start producing it again? Or are sitting on old stock? Rum archeology, yesss!
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Unga Bunga
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From: CaliTikifornia
| Posted: 2005-02-13 1:42 pm Permalink
Hey Sven,
If you click on these bottles, you can get some great details. Let us know if you find it.
On a side note, I have never seen Appleton Punch either.
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Trader Tiki
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From: Portland, OR
| Posted: 2005-02-13 2:15 pm Permalink
Screw the distros, let's just go straight to the source... well, at least the bottling plant/location.
Who's up for a road trip... or air trip... or just trippin'
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TikiGardener
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| Posted: 2005-02-15 1:00 pm Permalink
I've only been able to find their white overproof.
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TikiGardener
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| Posted: 2005-02-26 1:08 pm Permalink
So the next question is, is the overproof usable in any "polynesian inspired" drinks?
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Hale Tiki
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From: Pittsburgh
| Posted: 2005-03-01 08:03 am Permalink
As of today, I have tried several times unsuccessfully to contact them. IT appears they have a voicemail, but no one answering phones. Weird.
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bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2005-03-02 9:50 pm Permalink
The mystery continues...does anyone know how to contact J.Wray & Nephew?
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Trader Tiki
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From: Portland, OR
| Posted: 2005-03-02 10:01 pm Permalink
Quote:
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On 2005-03-02 21:50, bigbrotiki wrote:
The mystery continues...does anyone know how to contact J.Wray & Nephew?
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http://www.appletonrumus.com/contact.asp?
Or maybe try contacting Brown Forman, who own Appleton.
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dot hog
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Posts: 6 | Posted: 2005-03-03 07:32 am Permalink
You can also go to Wray & Nephew's site:
http://www.rum.co.uk/wrayandnephewnews.htm
On the site, they mention:
"For more details on where to buy our products, contact us at info@rum.co.uk"
It's worth noting that Wray & Nephew only list the white overproof rum as their only product.
I'd like to know more about this.
Good luck.
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