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Where to buy TV syrups in NY/NJ?
susanr5
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Posted: 2005-04-19 1:39 pm   Permalink

Does anyone know where I can buy Trader Vic' s drink syrups (orgeat, rock candy, maraschino, passion fruit & grenadine) in the NY/NJ area? It seems nuts that for $20 worth of syrups I'd have to pay $17 in shipping if I order one bottle of each on their web site. The online stores I've looked at (liquorama, for one) don't carry everything.

 
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donhonyc
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Posted: 2005-04-19 9:22 pm   Permalink

susanr5-

I wish I had an answer to this question. I have looked far and wide for TV products in the Tri-State area and every time I do it's the same result: zip! They are nowhere to be found in any stores around here. I have even been to Trader Joe's in Connecticut and New Jersey and those particular stores don't carry any of the products, even though it seems that their West coast stores do. And in the city that supposedly never sleeps, I dare anybody to find Trader Vic products anywhere here in NYC. So welcome to the Trader Vic search & frustration club (Northeast Chapter). If you ever come upon a goldmine of any of the products in any store you're looking in let me know. Meanwhile, just order from the website, it saves alot of frustration. I actually just got a shipment last week.

Good luck!


 
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JerseyRED
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Posted: 2005-04-20 08:19 am   Permalink

susanr5 / donhonyc,

I'm from Northern NJ myself and have the same issue myself! I broke down awhile ago and ordered the Orgeat and Passion Fruit Syrup on-line. But due to the same reason you mentioned, I don’t plan on doing that again due to $hipping co$t$!!

But I'm hoping donhonyc MIGHT be able to point me to where I can find Falernum, Maraschino Liqueur and possibly Fee Brothers or Angostura grenadine (I believe Fee, Angostura and Trader Vic are the only brands that use real pomegranates... I think.) I’d prefer to hit a liquor store next time I’m in the city that stocks this stuff rather than travel from liquor to store in my area.

As for the Orgeat I plan on picking up either Torani Sugar Free Almond or Monin Sugar Free Almond.

I also want to check their ingredients as well for the Passion Fruit Syrup to see for myself if Trader Vic’s is truly “the only brand that contains passion fruit”.
This is from the Monin site:
“Monin syrups are highly concentrated and made from natural fruits, nuts, spices, water and sugar.”
So if this is true it should have real passion fruit (and hopefully REAL sugar and not High Fructose Corn Syrup like the TV products do.)

I plan on making my own simple syrup with Splenda (I’m sure you're seeing a trend here. Just cutting out sugar or worse HFCS where I can).

Rich

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the drunken hat
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Posted: 2005-04-20 09:49 am   Permalink

susanr5~ i live in cali and order from vics all the time. the trick is to order the bottles in threes. the first time i ordered from them i ordered 2 bottles and shipping was 9 bucks. the next time i ordered i got 6 bottles and the shipping was only 14 bucks. the boxes they use are made that way(3 or 6 per box)and since they are pretty big i guess that ups charges them by the size and not the weight.

so my suggestion would be to order the orgeat, passion fruit and grenadine from vics and make your own rock candy syrup( it is very easy). the cherry syrup is something you will hardly use ( at least in my bar it is) and you should be able to get by with another brand.

hope this helps
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donhonyc
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Posted: 2005-04-20 09:59 am   Permalink

JerseyRED-

The one place that you may (and I emphasize 'MAY') find the liquers you are looking for is a place here in the city called Warehouse Liquors (I'm pretty sure that's the name). It's a huge place on Broadway right off Astor Place, about a half block below 8th Street. It's on the west side of the street, you can't miss it. They have a pretty wide selection of stuff, so you might have some luck there.

I think I may have had almost as many problems looking for Torani syrups as I have for the TV stuff. So far the only place I can find that has a large selection of them is a coffee store called Porto Rico Imports on Bleecker St. off 6th Ave. I had such a time trying to find Vanilla syrup last week, and I was trying to avoid going to Porto Rico Imports, because it is located on the other side of town and a pain in the ass to walk to unless you have another reason to go over there. So I looked in all of these 'gourmet' supermarkets around here and came up nill, until I found a place on 7th Ave and 14th St. that I can't remember the name of, that had Vanilla syrup made by 'U-bet' . It's like an old-time brand that I only used to see in chocolate form, but I guess now they have Vanilla. By the way, I was looking for Vanilla syrup to make one of the Mai Tai recipes that's in 'Tiki Road Trip', just in case you were wondering.

P.S. Not to be too much of a crybaby , but this seems to be the story of my life lately: all of the cool, specific things that I look for here in town I can never find. For example...vintage Tiki in any form- postcards, mugs, Exotica LPs etc., as well as non-Tiki stuff like vintage movie lobby cards. Cannot for the life of me find this stuff anywhere. I search most of the flea markets around here, and I have yet to strike gold on any of these fronts. The few isolated cases where I have found these kinds of things it's always at a vintage boutique where the prices are grossly inflated. There's no thrill in getting a great find and paying $50 -$100 for it. I want the $5-$10 mind blowing find at a garage sale, thrift store, or flea market, but I guess I'll have to keep looking.

And they say that you can find anything in New York City....NOT!!


 
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susanr5
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Posted: 2005-04-20 11:28 am   Permalink

Thanks everyone, I am boggled that NYC/NJ is so horribly remiss in this area. Maybe I should order a large economical shipment start dealing the extras on the street here! (Hey man, I got some prime orgeat, real sweet stuff, man....)

I guess doing the multiples of 3 ordering is the way to go, I just got the Beachbum Berry books and I'm trying to put together a basic setup with which to attempt these potions! I wish I'd read about the Havana rums before my sister came over from France.... Thanks again!


 
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Urban Tiki
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Posted: 2005-04-20 1:55 pm   Permalink

I've searched everywhere in Manhattan for TV syrups, too- no luck. Sorry Donhonyc, I've checked Warehouse Liquors, but no luck (I thought they would have it). I ended up getting Torani syrups from Porto Rico.

ANy opinions on how the TV stacks up against the Torani? I really like the Torani stuff, so I'm not sure if it's worth the expense of shipping the TV.


 
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JerseyRED
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Posted: 2005-04-20 4:00 pm   Permalink

drunken hat,

I think you need to take into consideration the shipping charges from the west coast to the east, it'll be more than $9. But that's what I did to "save" and it was still very high considering how LONG it took to arrive.

But, I bit the bullet and if you don’t have time it looks like you’ll have to do the same Susan!

donhonyc,

Thanks for the tip. I'll give them a try when I'm in the area! I really would love to score on some of these hard to find liquers.

I called Fee Brothers and their distributor is in Staten Island. They were very helpful, but explained I would need to order a minimum of 3 bottles of the grenadine (along with the orange bitters that I want). I may try these mail order places for the items (or Regan’s Orange Bitters).
http://surfasrestaurantsupply.com/products/22796.cfm
http://www.owensliquors.com/store/shop/category.asp?catid=4
http://www.buffalotrace.com/giftshop.asp

I sent an e-mail to Monin to find out more about their syrups and distribution in the NYC-metro area. They have a web store, but I haven’t gone through the process to see how much the shipping would be.
http://www.monin.com/

And on a final note, YEAH! I’m feeling ya! I know exactly what you mean!
It’s not like I expect to find some Heywood furniture at some unsuspecting home owner’s garage sale, just a really cool find from time to time! Either everyone is more educated or they are throwing the stuff on e-bay?
Hmm, could be the fact that I’m older and this “cool stuff” is getting harder to find? NAH!!!

Happy mixing all!

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Kono
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Posted: 2005-04-20 4:47 pm   Permalink

Thanks for the links RED. That Fees Bros American Beauty Grenadine destroys all competition (IMO). I've got the sugar free Torlani almond and I must say it doesn't taste much like orgeat. It's pretty lame I think. I like Torlani orgeat a hair better than TV's. Yum. Is that true what it says in your Owens Liquors link? Orgeat is pronounced "or-SHOT?" I thought it was or-zhyit or even orgy-it. Doh!
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donhonyc
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Posted: 2005-04-20 8:39 pm   Permalink

JerseyRED-

Yeah, it's a bitch ain't it. I think Ebay has definitely become the double-edged sword of all things collectible. On the one hand it's really easy and convinient and you can window shop at home. On the other it has definitely made people more aware of what they have, and has taken all the fun out of garage sales, flea markets, etc. I remember hitting a bunch of garage sales last summer in Long Island. Basically every one of them was a family getting rid of the old baby toys, playpens and furniture their children outgrew. Yeah...that's real fun to rummage through. Who the hell wants used puked-on baby toys? I don't have kids, but if I did I wouldn't be like "hey honey, let's go hit the garage sales and find junior a nice used Romper Room set with some other kid's excrement residue on it". What the hell are these people thinking?

Just a correction to my last bitch-fest post. I remembered that this past fall, I actually did find a pair of Tiki Leilani mugs for $12 one day as well as a pretty rare postcard from the Bali Hai in Northport, Long Island on another day, both at the Chelsea flea markets. But once again I have to say..definitely the exception and not the rule.

Happy Hunting and good luck to ya and all the other disgruntled cool-item-searching folks we have here in the Metropolitan Area.


 
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ZebraTiki
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Posted: 2005-04-20 9:59 pm   Permalink

If any of you venture down to Virginia, the Cost Plus World market stores have 8 stores there, and carry Torani syrup, although it's best to call ahead to find out if they stock the flavors you want.

Related sites:
www.torani.com
www.costplusworldmarket.com


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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2005-04-20 10:26 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2005-04-20 13:55, Urban Tiki wrote:
ANy opinions on how the TV stacks up against the Torani? I really like the Torani stuff, so I'm not sure if it's worth the expense of shipping the TV.



Right now I have a bottle of the Trader Vic's orgeat and the Torani orgeat.

The TV's is thicker and seems to have a hint of citrus blended in with the almonds.

The Torani's is more watery and has a very pronounced almond flavor. It smells and tastes much like marzipan. In fact I don't notice any flavor other than almond.

Orgeat should be a mixture of almonds, sugar and rose water/orange-flower water, and the TV's seems to be going the orange-flower route.

And now for the purely subjective part:
In my Mai Tai's I prefer the taste of the TV's orgeat. I feel that the Torani is too one dimensional and candy like and can easily overpower the balance flavors.

However, when my local source is out of stock I do fall back on the Torani.

What other brands of orgeat has anyone tried?




 
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donhonyc
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Posted: 2005-10-04 6:09 pm   Permalink

FLASH BULLETIN: TRADER VIC PRODUCT FOUND IN NEW YORK CITY!

Shocking indeed! In the city where Trader Vic products are scarce! I almost fell over when I found a liquor store today in Chinatown that sells Trader Vic's Banana Rum for $7 a bottle. That's cheaper than alot of the on-line stores sell it for. The only thing I was wondering about it was if it's actually an official Trader Vic product. The logo looked the same, but I have never seen this stuff before, plus it' s not on the TV website, but I quess they can't sell liquor on there (?). Whatever the case, I didn't buy it. I'm going to Hukilau in a couple of days, so what's the point. If I get a jones when I come back I 'll get it. But I can just see it now; I'll want it, I'll go down there, and they'll either be out of it or they will discontinue selling it. Hate to be negative, but that kinda stuff happens to me all the time.

Aloha



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KaptainKuku
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Posted: 2005-10-18 10:53 pm   Permalink

Sorry, but all you people need to move to Los Angeles.

No problem finding Trader Vics syrups, old Martin Denny records, paper parasols, old tiki mugs, and Torani syrups in every variety imaginable.

If you need good pizza, stay in NYC. If you have a Tiki jones, Gotham is not the place to do it. And I say that as someone raised in Bergen County, New Jersey.

P.S.: When you get here, check out the flea market at Pasadena City College. First Sunday of the month. You'll probably find Tiki mugs on Melrose Avenue, or other hipster hot spots, but you'll pay through the nose for them.


 
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velveteenlounge
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Posted: 2005-10-24 09:56 am   Permalink

I live about an hour north of NYC, but this might be helpful for suburbanites north of NYC and in North Jersey. High Withers Wine and Spirits, in Goshen, NY, carries Fee Brothers products. We get orange bitters from them (which they keep on the counter, since the demand is so high) and we recently asked them to order falernum for us, which they did. They seem very receptive to those requests.

I get Torani syrups at Porto Rico, in NYC, but agree that it can be a pain getting there.


 
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