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nuimaleko
Tiki Centralite
Joined: May 03, 2005
Posts: 70
From: Sacramento CA
|  Posted: 2005-06-23 06:44 am Permalink
I am fairly new to tiki and am still a bit fuzzy as to what is tiki and what is not. I have a Myer's Rum mirror that must have been in some bar at one time, although I don't know what one.( bought it in a junk shop in Sacamento) It has a tall ship in a harbor and a stack of rum barrels next to palm tree. No tikis in sight, in fact it may be depicting a scene from the Caribbean. But since it is a rum conected item that would look fine in a tiki bar, I am wondering if it is "tiki" or not?
I generaly collect Hawaiiana and that includes some stuff like mugs and god and menahuni figures and I know they would be considered "tiki". I also collect sarongs, aloha shirts, monkey pod and koa wood items, tapa cloth, original paintings by Hawaiian artists (but not of tikis) and surfer neckwear like Maui fish hooks and other pendants,(sea turtles and sea horses being my faves, but also god images and the original Tiki, the Moari first ancestor figure (the original Tiki who gave his name to so many things)in carved greenstone, bone, wood or cast in silver or bronze, puka and cowrie shell neckaces. Although Maui fish hooks and most carved bone, wood or stone pendants are generally refered to as tikis in surfer culture, I am not sure if they are "tiki" as the word is used here. I was told by another member that there is a great distinction between Hawaiiana and "Tiki". That is why I am posting here rather than on the "tiki" forums. here is an URL to a pic of the mirror
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/calthai2003/album?.dir=a502&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos
[ This Message was edited by: nuimaleko 2005-07-08 15:03 ]
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Jungle Trader
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Jan 04, 2003
Posts: 3691
From: Trader's Jungle Outpost, Turlock, Ca.
| Posted: 2005-06-23 07:47 am Permalink
Welcome to TC maleko.
I don't have an answer for you, I just wanted to say "Welcome to TC"
Enjoy!
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nuimaleko
Tiki Centralite
Joined: May 03, 2005
Posts: 70
From: Sacramento CA
| Posted: 2005-06-23 10:49 am Permalink
Thanks. I see you are just down the road in Turlock. I am in Sacramento. I was a landscaper for much of my working life. My back will only let me do relatively light gardening now, but I have instaled a Tiki Garden here at my apartment complex (I am the volunteer gardener)I love water features and have built a few myself over the years. Never carved a tiki. Mahalo for the greeting.
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Tiki-bot
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Jun 24, 2002
Posts: 1345 | Posted: 2005-06-23 10:56 am Permalink
Martin Denny is tiki.
Jimmy Buffett is not tiki.
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purple jade
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Feb 19, 2003
Posts: 1450
From: New Orleans
| Posted: 2005-06-23 12:17 pm Permalink
I think most of those things you mentioned are certainly tiki-compatible. There is difference between collecting "tiki" and Hawaiiana. According to bigbrotiki, in the strictest interpretation, to be "tiki" an item must feature, of all things, a tiki. But also strictly speaking, a Moai is not really a "tiki" anywhere but in Polynesian Pop culture, so interpretation is somewhat subjective. Tiki-compatible items should at the very least have a relationship to the South Pacific, particularly Polynesia.
Here are some things that are NOT:
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mrs. pineapple
Tiki Socialite
Joined: May 12, 2003
Posts: 611 | Posted: 2005-06-23 12:35 pm Permalink
PJ - I am SO glad you included the owls... as I scrolled through your examples, I was thinking,
'the owls? where are the owls?'
tee hee
There's also a difference between 'party store tiki' and real tiki. I think we all know the difference!
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Tiki-bot
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Jun 24, 2002
Posts: 1345 | Posted: 2005-06-23 12:46 pm Permalink
What's with the 'nads on that bear???
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ZebraTiki
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Aug 01, 2004
Posts: 530
From: Enchanted Bay Area, CA
| Posted: 2005-06-23 1:23 pm Permalink
And why is the bear either holding an umbrella, or wearing a Bo-Peep bonnet?
These are the questions that will creep into your head as you scour the shops for tiki.
Welcome, niumaleko!
The more time you spend looking through The Book of Tiki, the more it will become second nature to declare an item tiki or not.
Avoid owls unless they are on a Treasure Craft or Coco Joes's ashtray-plate thingy that reads, "Hawaii," and you are hypnotized and can't help yourself.
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Turbogod
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Jun 14, 2002
Posts: 1219 | Posted: 2005-06-23 1:26 pm Permalink
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On 2005-06-23 12:46, Tiki-bot wrote:
What's with the 'nads on that bear???
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PJ, you forgot
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Tiki-bot
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Jun 24, 2002
Posts: 1345 | Posted: 2005-06-23 2:10 pm Permalink
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On 2005-06-23 13:23, ZebraTiki wrote:
And why is the bear either holding an umbrella, or wearing a Bo-Peep bonnet?
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It does look like a parsol the bear is carrying, but its right hand is holding a purse! It's definitely the best ceramic she-bear drink mug ever!
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nuimaleko
Tiki Centralite
Joined: May 03, 2005
Posts: 70
From: Sacramento CA
| Posted: 2005-06-23 4:21 pm Permalink
It does look like that bear has both male genitals and breasts. You wonder what the artist's supervisor was thinking when they approved that for production.
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Tikiwahine
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Apr 09, 2003
Posts: 3288
From: Ontario, Canada
| Posted: 2005-06-23 4:26 pm Permalink
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On 2005-06-23 16:21, nuimaleko wrote:
It does look like that bear has both male genitals and breasts.
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I think the correct phrase is "man tits"
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mrs. pineapple
Tiki Socialite
Joined: May 12, 2003
Posts: 611 | Posted: 2005-06-23 4:41 pm Permalink
In honor of pride week, I declare the bear transgender!
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Feelin' Zombified
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Jul 15, 2003
Posts: 1328
From: The Exotic Shores of Lake St. Clair
| Posted: 2005-06-23 5:25 pm Permalink
NOT TIKI:
Still NOT TIKI:
Yes, TIKI:
Suprisingly Tiki:
This Star Wars weapon is actually designed from a Fiji Battle Hammer (totokia) and the club end is carved to represent the fruit of the pandanus tree.
-Z
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Tiki_Bong
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 0 | Posted: 2005-06-23 7:42 pm Permalink
Nuimaleko,
I hope this sheds some light on your quest:
Tiki is whatever I goddamn say it is.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Mr Tiki Bong (version 2000)
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