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the lost chapter: Hop Louie and the Stockton Islander (image heavy) |
Unga Bunga
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From: CaliTikifornia
|  Posted: 2005-07-14 1:06 pm Permalink
I have been away for a few days and just caught this thread.
Cleen, this is a perfect thread of why I come here.
Thank you for the inspiring info. You never let us down.
Unga
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Humuhumu
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| Posted: 2005-07-14 1:51 pm Permalink
Did you learn anything about the Islander that was in Los Angeles? Was it opened by Hop Louie, or by Tommy Lee (or someone else entirely)?
(Man, I've got a lot of Critiki updating to do now!)
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paranoid123
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From: New York City
| Posted: 2005-07-15 11:09 am Permalink
Hey Everyone,
I showed my dad Tikicleen's article, and asked him a lot of questions. But I left my notes at my parent's house, so I'll post what information I have later.
But anyway, it's no longer a rumor or urban legend, my dad confirmed that Hop Louie did indeed lose the Islander through gambling. But he said it was either through poker or pai gow.
Oh, and my dad said that Hop Louie didn't have mob ties. Darn it. That would make it only more interesting :)
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the drunken hat
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| Posted: 2005-07-15 12:15 pm Permalink
humu~ the LA islander had a different owner. but as to who it was i have no idea. ask bob at OA he'll know the name of the person for sure.
paranoid~ that's what we had thought! did your dad know if he lost minnies in stockton and modesto the same way?
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Chongolio
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| Posted: 2005-07-15 6:30 pm Permalink
A+ for you and a 
Perfect spelling, grammar and delivery. I will have one gumdrop for you the next time we see each other.
Chongolio
Hop louie what a cool name
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Aaron's Akua
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| Posted: 2005-07-15 10:48 pm Permalink
What a perfect post! Great research Cleen & Hat. Now Nina & I really must make the trek to Minnie's. Sorry we couldn't make it out on the last trip. Thanks for sharing all of your most excellent sleuthing!
Aaron
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Fez Ape
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Posts: 104 | Posted: 2005-07-16 06:03 am Permalink
Just wanted to I really enjoyed your historical research, it made for a very enjoyable read.
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puamana
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From: Seattle, WA
| Posted: 2005-07-18 10:28 am Permalink
Here's pics of the Minnie's Stockton menu :
And Minnie's Modesto menu :
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thejab
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From: Forbidden Island, CA
| Posted: 2005-07-18 10:52 am Permalink
What, no Oysta Beef on the menu?!
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tikicleen
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From: ripon: almond capital yet no orgeat
| Posted: 2005-07-18 2:57 pm Permalink
puamana~ awesome! that cover of the gong lee's menu looks eerily similar to the matson lines menu cover for hawaii. i also like the note to the diner on the inside cover talking about how minnie's "takes justifiable pride in being listed in Duncan Hines' latest edition 'Adventures in Good Eating'." if we only knew the year!! i'd love to track down that duncan hine's book.
paranoid~ thanks for clarifying and confirming the loss of the islander to gambling. keep looking for some pictures of your uncle hop!
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tikivixen
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From: Vallejo CA
| Posted: 2005-07-19 9:56 pm Permalink
Cleen, thanks so much to you guys for this thread. It just keeps getting better and better! I can't believe that Stockton Minnie's info. My strange, semi-inexplicable fondness for Stockton nurtured anew! Ahhhh. 
Seriously...East Harding...I think that's about where some good thrift stores are now...yum, skid row(s). Always interesting, at least until gentrification destroys everything nifty. Dang, I'm jonesing for Stockton now. Not to mention Modesto.
Thanks again and see you soon I hope!
xo tikivixen
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Phillip Roberts
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From: OAHU, Hawaii.
| Posted: 2005-07-20 12:44 am Permalink
Aloha,
This comment was lost in the change from fake name to the real name.
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tikivixen
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From: Vallejo CA
| Posted: 2005-07-20 6:07 pm Permalink
Filslash, you've just helped fill in a HUGE Chris Isaak missing link for me. Neato! Thanks! I'd love to hear any of his or Kenny's reminiscences...
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Jungle Trader
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From: Trader's Jungle Outpost, Turlock, Ca.
| Posted: 2005-07-20 6:46 pm Permalink
filslash, I know it's a long shot but it would be very cool if Chris or any of his bandmates could meet us sometime at Minnie's. He could show up in a disguise,...or not,....and I promise we wouldn't reveal his true identity. uh-huh, really.
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Hop Louie's
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Joined: Aug 14, 2005
Posts: 3 | Posted: 2005-08-15 12:30 am Permalink
I am one of Hop Louie's daughters, and I just signed on this forum yesterday.
FYI: Hop did not lose the Islander to gambling.
I am checking with my other sisters about some of the things we might have left from any of the restaurants since the 1950's.
Please understand that that I am not a real computer/internet savvy type and it will take me a while to get a hang of this and I will try to post interior shots of Hop's restaurants when they were happening.
Mahalo ...
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