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Tikiwahine
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Posted: 2006-08-16 11:01 am   Permalink

I use my groggy upside-down so the top fits into the base. When I tried to do it the proper way(with the glass on the bottom) I made a big mess.
But I'm weird that way. Maybe it has something to do with being left-handed?

Chip&Andy, don't you still have to invert the whole mess when you go to strain from the metal side?


 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2006-08-17 12:54 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-08-16 10:57, Chip and Andy wrote:
So, my question is... Am I just an idiot when it comes to shaking a drink or have any of you had the problem with leaks and spills from your shaker when the top fits into the base versus when the top fits over the base.


I don't use a Boston shaker, but whenever I see a respectible bartender use one, they always give the glass a good smack down with their palm to form the seal before shaking. And the seal is so great after shaking that they have to smack on the side of the glass (either with their palm or on the side of the counter) to break the seal. With a seal that strong, it shouldn't leak. But like I said, I'm a wuss and use a standard shaker.


 
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thejab
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Posted: 2006-08-17 1:19 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-08-17 12:54, GatorRob wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-08-16 10:57, Chip and Andy wrote:
So, my question is... Am I just an idiot when it comes to shaking a drink or have any of you had the problem with leaks and spills from your shaker when the top fits into the base versus when the top fits over the base.


I don't use a Boston shaker, but whenever I see a respectible bartender use one, they always give the glass a good smack down with their palm to form the seal before shaking. And the seal is so great after shaking that they have to smack on the side of the glass (either with their palm or on the side of the counter) to break the seal. With a seal that strong, it shouldn't leak. But like I said, I'm a wuss and use a standard shaker.



You can break the glass that way and cut your hand severely, so it is not a good idea. The preferred way is to hold the glass firmly on the bottom with the glass part on the top end and twist. That way if it breaks it just ruins the drink and you won't have to go to the hospital.



 
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Chip and Andy
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Posted: 2006-08-17 1:42 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-08-16 11:01, Tikiwahine wrote:
I use my groggy upside-down so the top fits into the base. When I tried to do it the proper way(with the glass on the bottom) I made a big mess.
But I'm weird that way. Maybe it has something to do with being left-handed?

Chip&Andy, don't you still have to invert the whole mess when you go to strain from the metal side?



I don't have any problems with the Boston Shaker, I love it. But sometimes you want something a little prettier when you pour, like the one in your picture....

The problem I run into is the top fits into the bottom, so when you shake (I usually shake hard) it leaks and I wind up wearing a good deal of the cocktail. Then, when I pour, it drips out and spills around the edges of the top. I have to pull the top off and then apply a strainer, kind of ruining the effect of having a pretty shaker in the first place..... I will see if I can get some pics of what I am talking about, maybe show-and-tell will help.....


 
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Tikiwahine
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Posted: 2006-08-17 2:26 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-08-17 13:42, Chip and Andy wrote:
The problem I run into is the top fits into the bottom, so when you shake (I usually shake hard) it leaks and I wind up wearing a good deal of the cocktail. Then, when I pour, it drips out and spills around the edges of the top. I have to pull the top off and then apply a strainer, kind of ruining the effect of having a pretty shaker in the first place..... I will see if I can get some pics of what I am talking about, maybe show-and-tell will help.....



I had that problem too, messy & slow. The holes in the top are such a good idea, they just need to re-design the whole thing.

I'd be much happier with a shaker like our groggy one, that has tikis on either side. maybe etched in? with tapa bands across the top & bottom?
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2006-08-17 2:36 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-08-17 13:19, thejab wrote:
You can break the glass that way and cut your hand severely, so it is not a good idea. The preferred way is to hold the glass firmly on the bottom with the glass part on the top end and twist. That way if it breaks it just ruins the drink and you won't have to go to the hospital.


Sorry, I got it backwards! I meant the metal half gets smacked down to seal it and then after shaking, the metal half is gently smacked on the side to break the seal. That's the way I've watched the pros do it anyway.

EDIT: I was curious, so pulled a few other bartending video clips I have and they're all different. Some smack it, some twist. Twisting does sound less dangerous, if less flashy.

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Tikiwahine
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Posted: 2006-08-17 3:08 pm   Permalink

I think I twist slightly to begin, then smack it gently on the counter if there's any hint of being stubborn when it's time to release.

Boy, I hope no one quotes me out of context.


 
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TraderPeg
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From: Haunted Hudson Valley
Posted: 2006-10-01 12:06 pm   Permalink

I love vintage shakers and have a few but they're little use for mixing cocktails.

I watched Alton Brown's recent episode on cocktails -- including Daquiris -- and he recommended a Boston shaker. I bought a nice one at Williams Sonoma but couldn't get used to smacking it to open the seal.

Then I tried this one from OXO and I think it's the best. It's a cobbler but the top seals to the bottom nicely and the tapered straining nozzle makes accurate pouring a breeze. No drips or slips. The rubberized cap stays on snugly during shaking, and the bottom half is insulated, so you only feel the cold building up through the strainer top, making the shaker easy to hold as your drink gets colder. You can get this one for around $25.




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twitch
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Posted: 2006-10-01 7:37 pm   Permalink

I'm still using my trusty (and dented) plain ol' capped metal shaker handed down to me by my dad (who bought it around 1963).
Speaking of plain, here's a rather bland glass shaker I have with recipes printed


...until you put the fully automatic stirrer cap on! (one C battery not included)


It's incredibly useless (I get a better mix-up by hand), but it's a neat novelty and keeps my battery-operated swizzle-stick company...
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hiltiki
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Posted: 2006-10-01 9:19 pm   Permalink

Traderpeg, I agree with you regarding the OXO shaker. I got mine from a thrift shop real cheap and have been using it ever since. I have about 4 or 5 other ones but this one is the best.

 
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TraderPeg
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Posted: 2006-10-02 8:37 pm   Permalink

Twitch, there's nothing like using an old tool with history, that's for sure.

Some of these cool old mixing glasses make good pint beer glasses for the bar, and keep doing their duty that way.

Here's to the old stuff we love, and the new stuff that works great!


 
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Tiki Drifter
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Posted: 23 days ago; 08:26 am   Permalink

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On 2006-08-16 10:57, Chip and Andy wrote:
If you look at the picture from Tikiwahine, the top fits INto the shaker. The last shaker I used where the top fit in like that had me wearing as much of the cocktail as I what I poured.
...
So, my question is... Am I just an idiot when it comes to shaking a drink or have any of you had the problem with leaks and spills from your shaker when the top fits into the base versus when the top fits over the base.



ruh roh, I just got one like that:


Hope I'm not in for a mess!


 
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 23 days ago; 11:44 am   Permalink

I used to buy the "Boston" type shakers, and when I did, would not buy any of them without taking it to the bathroom and doing a test over the sink with water. Some of the nicer Boston shakers I've seen are more for show and really leak around the top. So I eventually switched completely to using 28oz shakers and pint glasses.

The secret to using a 28oz tin and a pint glass is to ensure that the two, when mated, have one edge completely on the same plane vertically. That is to say, the "cap" pint glass on one side is exactly straight with the bottom shaker tin. You get a nice tight (and sort of an oval) seal in the tin if you give the "cap" a good downward hit before you begin to shake. Then when you are done, you give the pint glass a solid slap from the side to ensure it breaks the seal free. Practice a bit, then you'll look like many of the pros. I'm guessing there are YouTube videos out there about this.

I'm going to switch to using weighted shakers -- 28oz capacity with a 93mm opening for the mixing tin, and 18oz capacity for the cap. They're very inexpensive from one of the online bar supply stores who manufacture their own shakers overseas. Today these are priced at $2.22 for the weighted tin, and $2.68 for the weighted cap. This is a good deal! I like to keep five of each handy at my bar in case I make a drink which has components not easily rinsed from the tins in the course of an evening, like drinks which are shaken with Coco Lopez and contain natural coconut oil. The stainless shaker combo has the advantage of not using glass which could be dropped and shatter, or be set down too aggressively, or be fumbled, on granite bar tops and also shatter.

Weighted vs. non-weighted is a topic for a whole new post, and it is a personal preference.

One more thing, the stainless tins tend to stack nicely, and this is important for compactness reasons in my portable bartending road kit when I go out to spread my liquid happiness.

Hope that explanation is clear and that these things help.


 
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Swanky
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Posted: 23 days ago; 12:45 pm   Permalink

YEars later, still using the same glass shaker. You always want the top to fit over the shaker, not into, to avoid the leaking Chip mentions.

An added bonus of a glass shaker is you can get things colder. I mostly just shake daiquiris these days and when I do, I want to shake it until it is crazy cold. I can shake it until that lid is near frozen solid. The glass end doesn't get so cold and I can keep shaking. If it was metal, I'd have to have a towel on both ends, which isn't a horrible thing, but glass makes it easier.
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 23 days ago; 1:58 pm   Permalink

I agree, glass is good. I had a nice one once, too, but fumbled it in the sink and broke it.

Someday I hope they will make reasonably priced stainless double-walled shakers with both the shaker tin itself and the "cap" tin double-walled as well. The durability of stainless is nice for us clumsy folks.

The downside to shaking too much is over-dilution of the drink. But no matter what shaker you use, you must come to develop a sense for how much ice to use and how much to shake.


 
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