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tikibars
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From: Aku Hall, Chicago
|  Posted: 2005-08-17 08:24 am Permalink
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On 2005-08-16 14:31, thejab wrote:
I'm also looking forward to seeing Chattanooga
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My main memories of driving through Chatanooga are big old 19th century buildings, still standing but is such disrepair that their upper floors are collapsing onto the lower floors, all visible through the windows. Amazing and beautiful, in it's way...
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Kon-Hemsby
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From: Andover, England
| Posted: 2005-08-17 08:36 am Permalink
Nashville..A must is the Ryman, also Roberts and Tootsies (old haunt of Hank Williams) for music and beer. I wouldn't personally eat in Roberts as there's a couple of bars on the other side of the road that do better food, but do go to Roberts for atmosphere and cowboy boots!
And Jack Daniels is worth a trek although no free
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thejab
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From: Forbidden Island, CA
| Posted: 2005-08-17 10:57 am Permalink
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On 2005-08-17 08:16, tikibars wrote:
Also, after reading my first review of Omni Hut on the crusty old Tiki Bar Review pages, this guy DAC Crowell sent me a looong list of things to see in Nashville. It is still up on my old site:
http://www.tikibars.net/tiki/OmniHut.html
Scroll down towards the bottom of the page and check it all out. It is a pretty exhaustive list.
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Guess what? I printed that whole page from your web site a few weeks ago! I wish I had time to do/eat/drink it all! The Loveless Cafe sounds particularly great.
I appreciate all the mentions of Jack Daniel's distillery. But I'm not terribly fond of their whiskey, so I'm more inclined to stop at George Dickel distillery down the road!
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martiki
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From: http://www.smugglerscovesf.com
| Posted: 2005-08-17 6:57 pm Permalink
Screw Jack Daniels!
http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/archive/md_editors_rant_jack.htm
Join the Boycott!
http://www.petitiononline.com/JD002/
11412 drunks can't be wrong!
And Dickel IS better, imho.
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Kon-Hemsby
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From: Andover, England
| Posted: 2005-08-18 12:36 am Permalink
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11412 drunks can't be wrong!
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11413 now!
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Rum Numb Davey
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From: Phoenix, AZ
| Posted: 2005-08-18 01:59 am Permalink
Currently, the federal distilled-spirits tax is based on a product's alcohol content. A gallon of 100-proof liquor, for example, has an excise tax of $13.50. A 50-proof beverage is taxed $6.75 per gallon, because it contains half as much alcohol. Taxes are levied by proof, and consumers are not demanding higher proof Jack Daniels.
In spite of 11,413 signatures on Modern Drunkard’s boycott, Jack Daniels sold 7 Million cases last year globally, and 3.3 million cases in the USA.
They are demanding that the price remain at $17.98 - $ 18.90 (with $15.98 deep discount price).
About 40 percent of the cost of a bottle of spirits is due to taxes, and the Brown Forman executives are keen to maintain their dominance in brown spirits.
Jack Daniel's is the largest-selling brown spirit in the U.S., and the Fourth largest selling over-all. Brown-Forman grew their business 5% last year with ultra-premium offerings like Jack Daniel's Single Barrel, Gentleman Jack and Woodford Reserve. At the same time, the core brand, Jack Daniel's, continues to prosper! The Tennessee straight whiskey was up 4.6% last year.
The Spirits Industry domestically pays $3.7 billion in excise taxes each year. Blame the government and their sin tax mentality; don’t blame the distillers for having to make their products profitable.
The boycott is not going to move the hydrometer off that 40% alcohol by volume no matter how many signatures get raised or hate emails get sent. It is a dollars and sense decision by the Suits at Brown-Forman, and when they dropped it profits soared. You want 100 proof whiskey? Drink Wild Turkey 101, and they’ll add one degree extra for you.
God bless you for trying though!
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Kon-Hemsby
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| Posted: 2005-08-18 02:16 am Permalink
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On 2005-08-15 22:14, thejab wrote:
Sunday 10/2 - explore Atlanta during the day; drive to Macon; overnight in Macon
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There's some good antique clothing and furniture stores at Little Five Points in Atlanta. Hey I even met blues legend Lazy Lester browsing around in one of them.
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thejab
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From: Forbidden Island, CA
| Posted: 2005-08-18 10:13 am Permalink
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On 2005-08-17 18:57, martiki wrote:
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I never liked it when it was higher proof either. But I do like some of their other product that Davey mentioned.
The boycott will never work as long as a million boy-men* a day order "Jack and coke" in a bar somewhere in the U.S. I guess because they don't know what else to order or they think a cocktail is somehow not manly enough. They can have it. I'll take a Woodford manhattan please.
*my term for men who never learned how to be a man so they still wear the same style clothes they did when they were boys and they don't know how act like gentlemen, or make a drink, or cook a good meal
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thejab
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From: Forbidden Island, CA
| Posted: 2005-08-18 10:14 am Permalink
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On 2005-08-18 02:16, Kon-Hemsby wrote:
There's some good antique clothing and furniture stores at Little Five Points in Atlanta. Hey I even met blues legend Lazy Lester browsing around in one of them.
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That's the kind of inside info I'm looking for that the guide books don't often mention. Thanks!
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mrs. pineapple
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Posts: 611 | Posted: 2005-08-18 11:06 am Permalink
Hey Jab - I took the Jack Daniels tour, and it's a hoot, if you have time.
Also in Nashville, check out the Hatch Show Print Museum.
http://www.hatchshowprint.com/
I saw a presentation at the MOMA a while back and the old posters are awesome, and you can get them fro really cheap! It's cool to see who was on the bill with Johnny Cash, Loretta Lynn etc. way back in the day.
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Rum Numb Davey
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From: Phoenix, AZ
| Posted: 2005-08-18 11:25 am Permalink
Jab: Have to agree with you on the Woodford Reserve Manhattan. Yet again, a Brown-Forman product, which Lincoln Henderson makes. Part of the absolute richness and depth of the Woodford is the copper pot stills used in its production.
I love the term boy-men, Jab. Can I use it please, as Candy Ass is a little dated and redneck. The problem with this country is the "sheeple" are afraid of taste. Why do you think Vodka, who know one drank before the early 7O's became the phenomenon it has marketwise because it can be integrated with everything. Sure, we love sugar, fat and salt so it has become the staples of our fast food culture creating cow children of prodigious size. There are 400 pound lineman in the NFL, and competitive eating IS now a sport like baseball and featured on ESPN. We are afraid of BOLD flavors like whisky, sea urchin, and fish sauce. Asians relish these flavors. The same can be said for hot and spicy foods. Many Americans eat vinegar jalepenos in goopey nachos, but who eats Yucatan Habeneros, by the handfuls? A few chileheads and frat boys on dares certainly do. The problem is intensity in flavor. A Jalepeno has 5,000 Scoville units of heat, whereas a habenero has up ward's of 300,000!
Before Prohibition, Americans drank Baltimore Rye, Bourbon, and Gin. All boldly flavored and textured spirits. After the failed political mistake of Prohibition ended, we've slipped into a candy fetish fascination in beverage imbibing. I love Tropical cocktails like everyone else on this site, but I have broad interest in taste and what I constitute as "delicious." I like the Tony Bordain model of eating everything, everywhere, all the time. If I really enjoy it, I go back for seconds. As a member of the Court of Master Sommelier, I have people constantly ask me what is my favorite wine. I always reply "all of them..it depends on what I am eating." This is true, as I like all wines from Burgundy to Greek Retsina to Lodi Zinfandel. I like all Rums, Whiskeys, and Brandies. Sure, i have preferences, but I want to experience it all.
By the way, a note on the hot and spicy thing..use your head. I overdid a extreme hot sauce called, "Blair's 4 AM" (which makes Dave's Insanity taste like Tabasco). It has a whopping 2 million Scoville units, and I was in intense stomach discomfort for two days. So to experience it does not mean to abuse it either. To often, we equate quantity with quality. Now, does anybody want to join me for lunch at Hometown Buffet, I could really go for 10 plates of bland meatloaf and 1/4 pound of corn out of a can.
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thejab
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From: Forbidden Island, CA
| Posted: 2005-08-18 11:27 am Permalink
The Hatch Show Museum looks great too!
Correction: I falsely stated that Dollywood closed and they built Opryland casino in its place. I meant that Opryland amusement park closed and they replaced it with a hotel, casino, and shopping mall. Dollywood is still open in Pigeon Forge, TN.
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Mai Tai
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From: Exotic Isle of Alameda
| Posted: 2005-08-18 2:34 pm Permalink
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On 2005-08-18 11:27, thejab wrote:
Correction: I falsely stated that Dollywood closed and they built Opryland casino in its place. I meant that Opryland amusement park closed and they replaced it with a hotel, casino, and shopping mall. Dollywood is still open in Pigeon Forge, TN.
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Whew!
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BettyBleu
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From: Island Oasis Backyard (So Cal)
| Posted: 2005-08-18 4:09 pm Permalink
damn. want company?????
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martiki
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From: http://www.smugglerscovesf.com
| Posted: 2005-08-18 6:31 pm Permalink
Well, of course the petition isn't going to do shit. That isn't really the point.
And a Brown Forman spokesperson said that the reason they lowered the proof was not taxes, but that their marketing research has shown that people increasingly prefered a "softer" taste and lower proof.
So, while taxes may have been the REAL reason the proof was lowered, the reason that they cited publicly shows that they have no respect for the tradition of the brand, despite basing the marketing of the product on "tradition". So I say to hell with that.
But...Woodford is awfully good.
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