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otikiniko
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From: The Molokai (or a studio 3 minutes away)
Posted: 2005-11-19 7:40 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2005-09-08 09:12, Jawa wrote:
Apparently it was also a hangout for local/visiting mafia types!



Not that this adds anything productive to this thread, but... so was the Mai Kai. Back in the days when I was a valet at the place we gave many pairs of keys to "shady types" who would proceed to transfer briefcases from one trunk to another. Normally, when the keys returned an extremely generous tip would follow. And that's just the tip of the iceberg!
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tikicar
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From: York, Pa.
Posted: 2005-11-20 3:44 pm   Permalink

Hey Sabu, I sent my brother this thread. He lives in Daytona. He had told me the hotel was getting some remodeling because of the Hurricane damage last year. I had told him to keep an eye out to see if they were getting rid of stuff. He figured he would stop in and see if they were selling anything else after reading this thread. Anyway here is the letter he sent me.

I went over to the hotel this morning and talked to the General Manager. Real nice guy but at first I had trouble getting him to believe that the door handles HAD been sold and I was asking if other stuff was for sale. He didnt know they were gone and thought they were in the back room during the remodel or out for polishing. He called one of the owners or at least someone higher than him right away and they talked a while. Then he asked if I could show him the site with the handles and I did on his office computer. He printed it all out and asked if i knew how to find out who the seller was. I told him I would ask if you could find out through the forum or if you knew the buyers ebay name we could search it that way and find the seller.
He showed me around the place and what they are doing. They are not getting rid of the old stuff, they are just freshing up everything. It has new black aluminum frame modern doors but that might be hurricane code now. The "Naked Lady" chairs had the seat cover redone but they are still in the lobby. The wall carvings are supposed to be in the store room. The Traders lounge is having bamboo door frames done and just cleaning up everything.(they were working today). The open beam ceilings will stay but he said they were goung to cover the spun fiberglass ceiling tiles but decided not to when they got the price. The Big Tiki head above the bar is supposed to be in the store room and the Witco Naked Lady chairs on each side of the entrance door will stay. After seeing the sellers name on the thread, He said it is the restaurant manager and he is already working to get the items back. He had one other item too. It is a cool 6x18" brass plate with a tiki relief, maybe was a door push panel. The GM said the hotel is still owned by the family that built it in 66-67 and want to keep it in the family and dont want things going missing. There was a cool custom remodeling sign with a Tiki wearing a construction hat and I told him to save it for me if possible. He picked it up and said "take it now".


So I guess the guy will be getting a hold of you to get them back to their rightful place.




 
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Tipsy McStagger
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Posted: 2005-11-20 9:12 pm   Permalink

i seem to recall that similair handles were and are still being sold at oceanic arts....on the wall with all the door handles there are some brass ones and though it's been awhile, i'm sure it was the same ones, cause I was looking to purchase them for the bathroom door handles at the rock-a-tiki when i was designing it....someone should hop over there and check it out...

 
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tikijackalope
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Posted: 2005-11-22 03:23 am   Permalink

Sabu, I think that if you give up these handles, you have the right to ask for some assurance from the actual owner that they'll be returned to a fitting place on the property and that they'll STAY there and not be sleazed away again. If the seller stays in their employ, I'd be less than confident in the usefulness of your sacrifice. Its your call, of course, but you've certainly behaved honorably (and furnished a great tale).
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tikicar
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From: York, Pa.
Posted: 2005-11-22 7:49 pm   Permalink

Well I think it is more than admirable for Sabu in the first place to say he would give them back. He obviously thought this ebay sale was weird from the start and said so from the very beginning. I think we are all here to help preserve what little original Tiki culture that is left. The owners were unaware that the handles were missing. They were sold without their concent. That makes them stolen property and should be returned to the owner of the hotel. What they decide to with them is their decision not Sabu's. They belong to the owners of the hotel. I think it is great that The Traders is doing a restoration and keeping the place as original as safety issues will allow. I think that this site is fantastic and that this post has helped preserve some original history. Yes, I am sure Sabu would love to keep the handles. I am sure we were all jealous at first that he found them and we didn't. We would all love a set of those handles. But everyone here knows what the right thing to do is and if we were the rightful owners what we would want done with our own property. I am sure most of us feel every time we go back to our favorite vacation spot or places of our youth, that we are disappointed at the ease of destruction of our past that commercial buisness does. We know we won't live forever but we are keepers of memories for future generations. My wife and I have no childern. At some point in my life I will start giving away my collection to the next generation who only could dream of having what some of us have. It then will be their turn to keep the memories alive and preserve the past for the next. Scott

 
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Tipsy McStagger
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Posted: 2005-11-23 08:18 am   Permalink

or they can pick up another pair from O.A.......or sabu can pick up a pair...they are not the only ones like it in the world, they made more.......i think.....could be wrong, but it's worth finding out before we make holy, that which may be common....

 
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Tiki Royale
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From: The Aloha Room in Beautiful Belmont, CA!
Posted: 2005-11-23 10:13 am   Permalink

WOW!!! Great post everyone...
Sabu is a stand up guy. But before returning the handles back home to avoid any "Taboo" I'd go down to Tap Plastics and get some liquid latex and make molds of the handles. At least then you can make some resin copies for your own.
Or maybe check out the art dept. at the local college... They might have some metal casting capabilities and someone might be able to make some new castings for you.
Aloha,



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Digitiki
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Posted: 2005-11-23 11:12 am   Permalink

Now I could be mistaken, but to the best of my memory, I have seen these style door handles for sale at Oceanic Arts. I don't know if they are in stock items or special order, but I believe I did see them on a display wall with other brass fixtures. Don't know the price though.

 
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Tipsy McStagger
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Posted: 2005-11-23 1:00 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2005-11-23 11:12, Digitiki wrote:
Now I could be mistaken, but to the best of my memory, I have seen these style door handles for sale at Oceanic Arts. I don't know if they are in stock items or special order, but I believe I did see them on a display wall with other brass fixtures. Don't know the price though.



...did you not see my post above or are you just F**king with me.....


 
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Tipsy McStagger
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Posted: 2005-11-23 1:02 pm   Permalink

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...and make molds of the handles. At least then you can make some resin copies for your own.





..or make copies and sell them on ebay for a bundle!!!...hey, x-mas is coming, right??


 
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tikicar
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From: York, Pa.
Posted: 2005-11-23 3:03 pm   Permalink

In Sabu's very first post on this thread he wrote:

I took them to Bob and LeRoy at Oceanic Arts. After they told me that I had got a good deal and kindly offered to take them off my hands, their immediate reaction (both of them) was that these looked like Steve Crane Kon Tiki Ports pieces, but they couldn't verify this - just a hunch. They showed me photos of one of the tikis they had carved for a Kon Tiki Ports restaurant and the tiki was definitely in this same form - the kneeling Maori tiki with hands on belly. They were not the suppliers of door handles at the time.

Now if they sell them or had them on the wall wouldn't they have said something?
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Exoticat
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From: Hutikihi Island ~ near Seattle
Posted: 2005-11-25 02:52 am   Permalink

Interesting thread--can't wait to see how this all plays out! The verdigris patina on your particular set of handles is quite beautiful, Sabu.

<<Should, like the manager wake up one morning and find a bloody Tiki head in his bed? We know people who know people. >>

ha ha I'm Italian and an artist--perhaps I can help! I suppose signing the piece would be incriminating...


 
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Loki
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Posted: 2005-12-26 06:29 am   Permalink

I was in the Aku Tiki this past weekend and the door handles are on the door. I dont know if it was the ones Sabu found or not, but the inside door from the lobby to the bar has the door pulls on now.
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Queen Kamehameha
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From: So Cal
Posted: 2006-04-28 11:32 pm   Permalink

hi, sorry to reopen this thread, but I just bought a set of handles that look just like these on ebay. the seller said:
This is a wonderful pair or bronze door handles. They came from the Tiki Room, which was a longtime hot spot in Cleveland, Ohio. Each piece weighs slightly over 10 pounds. The height is 11.5 inches, the diameter of the top is 1.75 inches and the metal piece extending from the back is 1.5 inches long. They have a beautiful, aged patina. These were part of the architectural salvage from the building, and they were on the front door of the restaurant. They are gorgeous and would make an eyecatching addition to any collection of Tiki items or as handles to a new or old home, restaurant or bar. Thanks for bidding and please view my other auctions, for additional interesting items.

the auction number is 7761811029 can anyone tell me if this place existed and also had these handles? they are cool, I will take a picture when they arrive. Thanks


Amy


 
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tikigap
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Posted: 2006-04-28 11:50 pm   Permalink

yeah, I'd cough up a few bucks for those...

 
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