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Tiki Central Forums Creating Tiki Tiki Carving Operation Bahemeth Waterfall is complete 11/07
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Operation Bahemeth Waterfall is complete 11/07
McTiki
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Joined: Aug 22, 2004
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From: Sunny Florida
Posted: 2005-09-27 4:31 pm   Permalink

Ok here's what I got so far. I'm about 4 hours of labor away from applying the water sealant/stain. The base coat on diamond wire is portland. Two layers of stucco/sand mix over the Portland. I can stand on it now. 8 ft wide by 7 ft tall. Two falls. Top one is 14" bottom weir is 17" wide. I will dig and finish the pond once stained. Pre- tubed for the 1" Polytube to be fed by an 1100 GPH Pump. The brown concrete stain was rejected after the application and will be overcome by Straight stucco color and then the sand color stain and accents (black & green). Worth saving $6,000.00 to do it yourself!

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After test firing the pump using water from a wheelbarrow, The top falls passed with an A+ and the bottom fall getting a D- So I had to reshape the bottom weir to jeteson the water outward and in a uniform sheet. The sound was awesome even though the bottom weir was just running the water down the underbelly of the fall.





Capotiki, your wallpaper brush technique is the shizzle! It looks real and there is no evidence of trowel in the material at all. Thanks man.





One more test firing and hopefully, we can move on to color and the pond below. Whew!

Many Mahaloz

10/31 We have a full pass on both fall now! Time to move on







P.S. Thanks CapoTiki!!!

Mahalo

Waterfall done!!!

Some minor tinting and highlights are required, but, for the mostpart, I can move on to the pond beneath it!

My 11 yr old Wahine helped alot with the mud and painting of it. = Trooper in 90 degree + heat etc.







Mahalo

I am bumping the GPH to above 1200 GPH for mor uniform flow!

McTiki



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hewey
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Joined: Sep 14, 2004
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From: Sydney, Australia
Posted: 2005-09-27 4:39 pm   Permalink

Cant wait to see some pics of it bubbling away. Cool

 
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Tiki G.
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Joined: Feb 28, 2005
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From: Jacksonville Beach, FL
Posted: 2005-09-28 11:41 am   Permalink

MC that thing is gonna look pretty rad when your done with it! Neat project. Going to add some zip to the ole backyard that's for sure!



 
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capotiki
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From: capistrano beach ca
Posted: 2005-09-28 12:23 pm   Permalink

if you want to make the whole piece flow together mix up portland,sand and get some concrete bonding liquid.Any place that sells concrete will have it,it looks like white glue.make a very wet mixture like a milk shake about 1/2 water and 1/2 bonding liquid in a 5 gallon bucket,now get a brush for applying wall paper glue,approx 10 inches wide,with very long loose bristles.Take the brush and coat it with the portland/sand/bonding liquid and water mixture and start lightly fling the wet mix on your project.what you will end up with is a very even coating that not only textures but water seals the entire project.It creates a very natural looking surface.I have used this method on many projects and it works very well.Make sure to protect everything around with plastic because it is a little messy but well worth the effort.capotiki

 
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McTiki
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Joined: Aug 22, 2004
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From: Sunny Florida
Posted: 2005-09-28 1:11 pm   Permalink

Thanks Gpah, maybe you & Tiki T can come hear it soon (that is if you ain't changin diapers or sumptin!) Capo. Your idea makes sense. One question....If you are using the brush like normal will the solution run on extreme angles? I have areas that are inverse and have been the most dificult to achieve smooth application. I agree that a slip formula is great for final texturing, but, you don't want it to run free if you know what I mean. Thanks again Capo.

Mahaloz


 
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capotiki
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Posted: 2005-09-28 1:37 pm   Permalink

with the right moisture content it sticks like glue,like any other wet process water content is key,you can control the amount of material being applied ,it is all in the wrist action,very light fling delivers small amounts from the brush,stronger action delivers more,It will stick and not run as long as you are not applying too much.what you get is small splatters that will flow together.It is very simple prosess but it gives such a uniform surface that it is worth the extra effort.Some areas might need to set and get a second coat to get a very natural rock like look and feel.experiment on a scrap of wood to see the effect.capo

 
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congatiki
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From: wisconsin northwoods
Posted: 2005-09-29 05:38 am   Permalink

wow...what a project...looks like it will be a great
addition to your tiki surroundings....keep us posted!


 
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McTiki
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From: Sunny Florida
Posted: 2005-10-20 1:07 pm   Permalink

Have to bump it.

 
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Tiki G.
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From: Jacksonville Beach, FL
Posted: 2005-10-21 04:10 am   Permalink

Come on already!!!!! GEEEEEZ!! What are you waiting for???? Stalling to see if Wilma is going to blow it down before you finish'er up! Get on with it BRO;)

Looking good there my man. Pump'er up and let her fly! It's going to look just like the one's at the Mai Kai! Yeah, I'm thinking when you get this one done, you can come up to Jax to start on mine.......


 
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McTiki
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From: Sunny Florida
Posted: 2005-10-21 04:53 am   Permalink

Yeah, 3 Wilmas wouldn't budge this beast. I was thinking about using it for a shelter. I checked it this morning and its going to be dry enough for a test tonight. Valhine is kinda miffed because of its size. (Never heard a female complain that something was too big). Geeez

Thanks for the motivation G !


 
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hewey
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Posted: 2005-10-21 05:11 am   Permalink

Waiting for the first run photos...

 
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wicked
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From: toronto
Posted: 2005-10-21 07:06 am   Permalink

wowzers!
that is going to be totally cool!
( sorry was possesed by some vally girl there :/ )

but really thats amazing!


 
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Benzart
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Posted: 2005-10-21 07:14 am   Permalink

Starting to cometogether like you knew what you were doing or something. Lots of work, but worth every bit.
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PalmCityTiki
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From: Palm City, Florida ( no really)
Posted: 2005-10-21 3:56 pm   Permalink

needs tikis but it is sweet and the sound would be soothing

 
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McTiki
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Joined: Aug 22, 2004
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From: Sunny Florida
Posted: 2005-10-22 11:38 am   Permalink

Thanx PalmCity. Got 16 or so tikis staring at the construction site everyday. You just can't see them from the angle of the pics.

Bottom weir failed again this AM. I am going to try a bead of silicon across the edge to see if the water will spill over it vs run down the face.

More experimentation.



Capotiki, any suggestions?


 
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