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The Perfect Blue Hawaiian? |
DawnTiki
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From: next stop Hulaville!
|  Posted: 2002-11-16 11:15 pm Permalink
Aloha everyone, I know this has already been discussed but, I can't find the thread, so I will ask the question again. I am having a problem with my Blue Hawaiian's cream curdling. I am following The Grog Log's reciepe for using cream or 1/2 and 1/2, I have also seen recipe's that call for Creme de Coconut, which makes the perfect or better Blue Hawaiian? Is the curd supposed to be there? I want to drink it not chew it. Hmmm? 
[ This Message was edited by: DawnTiki on 2002-11-16 23:21 ]
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Talkie-Tiki
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Posts: 193
From: Hendersonville. N.C
| Posted: 2002-11-17 09:09 am Permalink
Use cream of coconut heck I even put a little in my coffee but the coconut cream is not really Dairy so it should not Curdle
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Tiki Rider
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From: South Orange County, CA
| Posted: 2002-11-17 10:27 am Permalink
I found this recipe in "The Ultimate A to Z Bar Guide" for a Blue Hawaiian as follows:
1 oz. light rum
1 oz. blue curacao
1 oz. creme of coconut
2 oz. (1/4 cup) unsweetened pineapple juice
1 cup crushed ice
combine all ingedients with ice in a blender.
Cover and blend at medium speed 15 seconds.
Pour into chilled glass and garnish with pineapple slice and cherry...
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tikimug
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From: 1217 mi. North of the Mai Kai
| Posted: 2002-11-17 11:39 am Permalink
Following the Grogs recipe you are going to get curdled cream... it's the acidic "sweet & sour" lemon juice mixing with the cream. It also calls for vodka which I thought was strange. And where is the coconut? I personally wouldn't go with the Grog on this one.
I'm more along the line of the recipe Tiki Rider posted, except no blender. I prefer it shaken (and I mean shaken till your arms hurt) and strained.
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Tiki Rider
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From: South Orange County, CA
| Posted: 2002-11-17 11:55 am Permalink
I think it tastes better with the rum, and also thought the recipe with vodka was maybe a mistake or misprint.
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DawnTiki
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From: next stop Hulaville!
| Posted: 2002-11-17 2:48 pm Permalink
Yea, Vodka? I din't get the Vodka idea either. Rum, Creme de Coconut! That sounds yummy! Thanks 
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hanford_lemoore
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From: Tiki Central
| Posted: 2002-11-17 4:13 pm Permalink
Vodka is the standard ingredient in Blue Hawaiians. Strange I know, but I asked around at several bars and I was told it's Vodka. So, a rum-based Blue Hawaiian does'nt seem to be a standard one.
Jab, what's your take on this?
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Doctor Z
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From: The Hale Moana Lounge, Torrance, CA
| Posted: 2002-11-17 4:20 pm Permalink
Look closely: the Grog Log recipe is for a Blue HAWAII - a vodka based drink - not a Blue HAWAIIAN, which is the classic rum drink. They are two totally different (and different tasting) drinks, the Blue Hawaiian being the only one with coconut cream in it. Also, Blue Hawaiian's are blended, thereby avoiding the unsightly curdled appearance and making them a bright milk-shaky blue, while Blue Hawaii's are shaken/stirred, making them a cloudy bluish-green. I prefer the Blue Hawaiian, but Al (of Alnshelly) makes a perfect Blue Hawaii! Try 'em both!
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hanford_lemoore
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Joined: Mar 23, 2002
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From: Tiki Central
| Posted: 2002-11-17 4:31 pm Permalink
What a difference a few letters make!
Thanks for solving this mystery for me Doctor Z. That clears up a lot ....
~Hanford
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DawnTiki
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Posts: 1673
From: next stop Hulaville!
| Posted: 2002-11-17 4:36 pm Permalink
Great! Not only am I a drunk, I'm illiterate too! 
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tikimug
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Joined: Apr 01, 2002
Posts: 751
From: 1217 mi. North of the Mai Kai
| Posted: 2002-11-17 8:51 pm Permalink
Yeah thanks Doctor Z, I saw that and I thought maybe it was two different drinks.
but...
 Hawaiian, Hawaii... Havaiian, Havaii let's call the whole thing off
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thejab
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 2984
From: Forbidden Island, CA
| Posted: 2002-11-18 12:35 pm Permalink
Harry Yee, longtime bartender at the Hilton Hawaiian Village in Waikiki, invented the Blue Hawaii. Although he said that it must have vodka in it, his original recipe contains BOTH vodka and rum!
I would agree that the Blue Hawaiian is the Blue Hawaii with rum and no vodka and was a later variation on the Blue Hawaii. But, I don't really know why there's cream in the Grog Log recipe as most recipes for it don't include cream.
Harry also invented the Tropical Itch, Hawaiian Eye, and many other drinks, and he was the first to put paper parasols, orchids, and back scratchers (in the tropical itch) in tropical drinks!
Here's more info:
http://www.kevdo.com/maitai/harryyee.html
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DawnTiki
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From: next stop Hulaville!
| Posted: 2002-11-18 12:44 pm Permalink
I just love this place! You learn so much! I ended up leaving out the cream and it was prettier and tasty too.
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Kailuageoff
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Joined: Mar 27, 2002
Posts: 1486
From: Honolulu Lounge,Lewes, DE
| Posted: 2002-11-18 2:28 pm Permalink
Thanks for the article Jab. I had a Scratch Me Lani at the Hala Kahiki in Chicago. I had never heard of one, but the bartender highly recommended it. Man, it was so good, I even took a picture of it. Thanks to you and this site, I now know who concocted the recipe.
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tikimug
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Joined: Apr 01, 2002
Posts: 751
From: 1217 mi. North of the Mai Kai
| Posted: 2002-11-19 12:18 am Permalink
Yeah, that is a great article jab. I love the part about why he switched the garnish to orchids in his drinks, 'cause it made the ashtrays easier to clean. That's priceless I love it!
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