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Jungle Trader
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Posted: 2006-01-31 08:31 am   Permalink

Strong women are good for the family and culture. They seem to be more compassionate than men.

Strong men are good for holding their children and teaching discipline. Oh, and killing spiders and lifting heavy things.



 
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alohabros
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Posted: 2006-01-31 10:45 am   Permalink

... great topic... bilge worthy, though...

 
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Jungle Trader
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Posted: 2006-01-31 1:40 pm   Permalink

Sorry, I disagree. This is not a drunken post.
This issue involves more than just families. It involves our way of life and the lives of indigenous people.


 
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alohabros
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Posted: 2006-01-31 2:41 pm   Permalink

... maragret thatcher, leona helmsley & imelda marcos were, at times described as strong women... yet the argument could be made that they were good for neither family nor culture, although, apparently, really good at killing spiders...

... it can also be argued that the eagle forum, led by strong woman phyllis schlafly, is neither good for our culture nor good for indigineous people...

... imelda, it can be said, did little to encourage the poor indigenous people of her homeland...

... but there are chicks that are cool, like de detroit from uxa and the chicks from frightwig...


 
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tikifish
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Posted: 2006-01-31 3:37 pm   Permalink

Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman?

 
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Tiki-bot
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Posted: 2006-01-31 4:31 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-01-31 08:31, Jungle Trader wrote:
Strong women are good for the family and culture. They seem to be more compassionate than men.




I forgot to add my comment regarding JT's quote: Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha!





[ This Message was edited by: tiki-bot 2006-01-31 17:41 ]


 
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alohabros
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Posted: 2006-01-31 4:49 pm   Permalink

... ahhhhh, ann coulter... painfully hot and ready to score....

 
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Monkeyman
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Posted: 2006-01-31 4:54 pm   Permalink

too many wussy men about these days.

Is it possible to be overtly masculine and still compassionate?

Strong women are great but after 30 years of encouragment and empowerment maybe we need a shift in the balance.

Compassionate men are great too but perhaps its time to bring back the affirmative decision makers who have a little backbone.

Families need both a Matriach and Patriarch.

One thing I can say for certain is that JT always seems to have his heart in the right place when he posts.



 
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alohabros
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Posted: 2006-01-31 5:14 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-01-31 16:54, Monkeyman wrote:
... One thing I can say for certain is that JT always seems to have his heart in the right place when he posts...





... nothing could be more true...

... except for...

... tall, tattooed goth chicks that like to score, fry and can pay half the rent and booz bill are really cool, too...


 
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alohabros
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Posted: 2006-01-31 5:21 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-01-31 08:31, Jungle Trader wrote:

...Strong men are good for holding their children and teaching discipline. Oh, and killing spiders and lifting heavy things...





... not to flog a dead horse here, chipshot, but dennis rader was a strong man, held his children and taught discipline... he also killed more than spiders and will definitely be doing some heavy lifting...


 
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Feelin' Zombified
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Posted: 2006-01-31 5:26 pm   Permalink

a few fun quotes from Camille Paglia:


Patriarchy, routinely blamed for everything, produced the birth control pill, which did more to free contemporary women than feminism itself.

If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts.


actually, that last one wouldn't be too bad


 
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Johnny Dollar
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Posted: 2006-01-31 5:36 pm   Permalink

how is this not becoming a political discussion?

 
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Shipwreckjoey
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Posted: 2006-01-31 6:27 pm   Permalink

Let's get back on track here. I like my women like I like my coffee...black and strong! I still have fantasies of being roughed up by (Foxy Brown era) Pam Grier and (Conan era) Grace Jones tag teamin' me to extract Top Secret intelligence critical to the survival of the free world (oh yeah, and I work for U.N.C.L.E. and my partner is Napoleon Solo, but he doesn't get any of this hot action).

 
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Tikiwahine
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Posted: 2006-01-31 6:40 pm   Permalink

Oh ya? Well I like my women like I like my coffee..ground up and in the freezer, oh wait, no I don't.

I have no idea who this Camilla woman is, but I do think that matriarchy and patriarchy are important in equal doses. From somewhere or another.


 
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amiotiki
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Posted: 2006-01-31 8:43 pm   Permalink

OK...it's late, and I'm brain dead, but I gotta throw in my 2cents worth...

Perhaps some of y'all are thinking more along the lines of paternal and maternal...particularly in how families and children are handled. The "archy" part at the end of matriarchy and patriarchy signify (bluntly put) leadership or dominance. A matriarchal society is dominated by female leadership, blah, blah, blah...you catch my drift. Strength and compassion don't necessarily play out the same ways in each type of society. Then of course, you throw in the alternatives of matrilineal vs. patrilineal, and matrilocal vs. patrilocal cultural patterns... Bwwaaahhhaaahahaha...my evil anthropologist persona is trying to get out.

Must...push...her...back...into...my...ID

So what is the real question here, JT?

amiotiki


 
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