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TikiTie
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Posted: 2012-05-30 1:57 pm   Permalink

I'm going to use a friend's recipe to make some orgeat this weekend for his (commercial) bar, but more importantly, make extra for my house. Does anyone have any experience with preservation methods? Vodka/Brandy seem to be one route, but I was thinking of using Ball jars. Orgeat doesn't seem acidic enough to preserve with the hot water method...is it? I've never tried pressure canning before.

 
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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2014-08-30 11:37 pm   Permalink

visited the Italian market yesterday and got a bottle of Toschi orgeat, imported from Italy.

it's quite concentrated, so in using it in a mai-tai i've followed the TV formula and used 1/4 orgeat with 1/4 rock candy syrup, instead of my usual method of using 1/2 oz orgeat while omitting the rock candy syrup. a necessary adjustment with the pungent Toschi!


 
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mikehooker
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Posted: 2014-08-31 06:34 am   Permalink

I don't see any mention of BG Reynolds in this thread. It's the only store bought kind I've tasted and I think it's quite good, although I have nothing to compare it to. I may try doing a homemade batch when my current bottle runs low to see if it's worth the extra effort but for now I think this stuff works great in a cocktail, and on pancakes.

 
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tabuzak
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Posted: 2014-08-31 07:43 am   Permalink

I believe Orgeat Works T'Orgeat to be the finest orgeat for Tiki cocktails that one can buy.



I still make it myself at home - a shortcut version without toasting almonds in 8 oz. batches - to keep the rotation going.

Cheers!

Jack




 
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kkocka
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Posted: 2014-08-31 11:07 pm   Permalink

Dang, I've never even heard of Orgeat Works before! For the record, there maybe is no BG Reynolds' mention in this thread, but its everywhere else on the site. I definitely prefer and recommend it for anybody wanting store-bought. I tried the whole Small Hands bit but wasn't a fan at all. Currently I am using Monin as I need something that will preserve w/o refrigeration and have cut back on my frequency of making drinks.
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djmont
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Posted: 2014-09-01 11:27 am   Permalink

I will happily use BG Reynolds, Small Hand Foods or Wilks and Wilson. They're all excellent.

Of the coffee house variety, the only one I really liked was Routin 1883.
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tabuzak
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Posted: 2014-09-01 1:12 pm   Permalink

Here's the info on the Orgeat Works products. I had no idea that they had three varieties - and all three look intriguing!

http://www.orgeatworks.com/htmlpages/products.html

Cheers!

Jack


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Rum Balls
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Posted: 2014-09-03 10:48 am   Permalink

I was going to get a bottle of Orgeat Works' macadamia syrup, 'til I saw the shipping price in the shopping cart. Yikes!
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 14 days ago; 12:42 pm   Permalink

So many different ways of pronouncing "orgeat." I did a Google search and came up with this short video which claims to pronounce it correctly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teTQQuJx3sg

The Torani Syrups web site seems to agree:
http://shop.torani.com/Almond-Orgeat-Syrup/p/TOR-362450&c

I've been pronouncing it "OHR-ZHAY" with a silent "t," but now understand that it's actually "OHR-ZHAT" with the "t" definitely being pronounced.


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lunavideogames
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Posted: 14 days ago; 12:57 pm   Permalink

Yes, I have always heard that it is pronounced "ORZET".

 
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mikehooker
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Posted: 14 days ago; 7:00 pm   Permalink

I've thought about starting a thread about how to pronounce certain common things like orgeat, falernum, Pernod, demerara, etc. I have it in my head how these things should sound then I have a conversation with someone and they say something completely different like dem-er-air-a and I'm like come again now? Really, that's how it's pronounced? I thought it was dem-er-ar-a. You know, like it's spelled? I still don't know what's correct!

When I was a newbie, the first time I went into a liquor store looking for orgeat I asked where to find the or-gee-ot, and he said, oh the or-gheet is over here. I've since heard it pronounced or-zsa (like zsa zsa gabor) and or-zsat which I think are more accurate. I stick with the former as it sounds more exotic and now hearing people say that harsh "gheet" really bums me out.

So what do ya'll say, should we start a phonetic thread on how to say stuff?


 
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lunavideogames
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Posted: 14 days ago; 7:35 pm   Permalink

Cynar = Che-Nar

 
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lunavideogames
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Posted: 14 days ago; 7:35 pm   Permalink

I think it'd be a great thread Mike!

 
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 13 days ago; 05:59 am   Permalink

Yes Mike, that would be a good thread. Some have already made some contributions (above) to the cause. And you're right, the various pronunciations of orgeat are a bit maddening.

I'd add cherries to the list --- maraschino specifically. "Mar-a-shee-no" or "Mar-a-skee-no."

The thread would spill over to a treatment of different words for rum in different languages --- rum, rhum, ron, etc.

With the creation of that thread, we can all die happy and in full agreement on absolutely everything!


 
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JenTiki
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Posted: 13 days ago; 08:29 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2016-05-11 05:59, AceExplorer wrote:
I'd add cherries to the list --- maraschino specifically. "Mar-a-shee-no" or "Mar-a-skee-no."


Having spent many hours in night school Italian language classes, I can confidently say the correct pronunciation of both the fruit and the liqueur made from said cherries is pronounced "mar-a-skee-no." Note it's "Mar" rather than "Mair" which I hear a lot. The "ch" followed by "i" or "e" is always pronounced as a "k" in Italian words. When "ch" is followed by a, o, or u, it is pronounced the same as in "church." But a "cc" is pronounced like "ch" as in cappuccino. Have I confused you all yet? It took me three semesters to finally figure that out!

As for Orgeat, Martin Cate once used a graphic similar to the one below in a Tiki Oasis symposium to illustrate the proper pronunciation, as he heard it from one of the French makers of it:


 
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