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Texas police arrests drinkers for being drunk IN A BAR
johnnievelour
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From: LongBeach
Posted: 2006-03-22 4:01 pm   Permalink

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060322/us_nm/bars_dc

SAN ANTONIO, Texas (Reuters) - Texas has begun sending undercover agents into bars to arrest drinkers for being drunk, a spokeswoman for the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission said on Wednesday.

The first sting operation was conducted recently in a Dallas suburb where agents infiltrated 36 bars and arrested 30 people for public intoxication, said the commission's Carolyn Beck.

Being in a bar does not exempt one from the state laws against public drunkenness, Beck said.

The goal, she said, was to detain drunks before they leave a bar and go do something dangerous like drive a car.

"We feel that the only way we're going to get at the drunk driving problem and the problem of people hurting each other while drunk is by crackdowns like this," she said.

"There are a lot of dangerous and stupid things people do when they're intoxicated, other than get behind the wheel of a car," Beck said. "People walk out into traffic and get run over, people jump off of balconies trying to reach a swimming pool and miss."

She said the sting operations would continue throughout the state.

[ This Message was edited by: johnnievelour 2006-03-22 16:02 ]


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Shipwreckjoey
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Posted: 2006-03-22 7:58 pm   Permalink

As bad as this sounds, just wait until the "authorities" unleash every Texan's worst nightmare...sending undercover cops into gun stores to arrest gun buyers before they get a chance to go out and shoot somebody!

 
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freddiefreelance
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Posted: 2006-03-22 10:33 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-03-22 19:58, Shipwreckjoey wrote:
As bad as this sounds, just wait until the "authorities" unleash every Texan's worst nightmare...sending undercover cops into gun stores to arrest gun buyers before they get a chance to go out and shoot somebody!


Joey, Don't forget that San Diego's the home of the only Liquor & Gun Store in these great United States! Where did I put that picture?
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pappythesailor
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Posted: 2006-03-23 03:07 am   Permalink

I think the interesting thing here is people's perception of the term 'in public'. In my opinion, a bar is a private establishment and for that matter so is a 50,000 seat arena. On the street, in a park, city zoo--that's 'in public' to me.

 
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tikigap
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Posted: 2006-03-23 05:47 am   Permalink

Yeah this is nuts. I agree with pappy - a bar isn't a 'public' place where you can be spotted by kids and tea-totalers. It's getting out of hand. I thought this kind of stuff was only in California. (Except of course the liquor store/gun shop in San Diego; that has got to be somebody's next target).
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Chip and Andy
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Posted: 2006-03-23 1:54 pm   Permalink

Bad movie, perfect reference, but did anyone here see the movie Minority Report?

And, I was born in Angelina County, Texas, which is a dry county. The county is full of bars, but you have to be a 'member' to have a drink. The cost to be a member is different for every bar, but the fact remains that you have to be a member of the club. That means that you are in a private establishment and I want to see the TAB go after someone in there. If memory serves, Angelina County was one of the first counties to issue a concealed weapon permit.....


 
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Shipwreckjoey
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Posted: 2006-03-23 6:03 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-03-22 22:33, freddiefreelance wrote:

Joey, Don't forget that San Diego's the home of the only Liquor & Gun Store in these great United States! Where did I put that picture?




Hiram's Guns & Liquor on Main St in (where else) El Cajon. I don't know if they're still there. It was located somewhere between the Hells Angels clubhouse and Kozac's as I recall.


 
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Unga Bunga
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Posted: 2006-03-24 12:34 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-03-23 13:54, Chip and Andy wrote:
The county is full of bars, but you have to be a 'member' to have a drink. The cost to be a member is different for every bar, but the fact remains that you have to be a member of the club. That means that you are in a private establishment and I want to see the TAB go after someone in there.


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paranoid123
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Posted: 2006-03-26 10:42 pm   Permalink

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foamy
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Posted: 2006-03-27 05:18 am   Permalink

Even more absurd than not being able to smoke in a bar. Big Brother is alive and well in Texas. But then, everything is big in Texas. The private club thing is a good idea, but, now I want to ask: Does the amount you pay to become a member in a particular club reflect a patron's social status/club's exclusivity? Just wondering.
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Gigantalope
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Posted: 2006-03-27 06:25 am   Permalink

Today in Scotland begins a law of "No Smoking in Public" that was so dreaded by liquor companies that several had profitable companies had been sold because of how this ban is expected to impact Pubs (Pub is short for Public House BTW)

I wonder if the people in the Texas bar were behaving badly, flashing genitalia, fighting or rooting against Texas in the March Madness Tournament?


 
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Swanky
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Posted: 2006-03-27 08:57 am   Permalink

I don't think a bar is "public." In photography, we were told that in "public", like on the street, you have the legal right to photograph anyone. In "private" a home, a business, you do not. That's why the Paparazzi are at the entrance. The bar is owned by a private person and open to the public. It is not a public space, like a sidewalk or a park. I'd fight and sue like a mo'fo on this one. Especially if it was at my bar. They just killed your business for a decade! Set 'em straight.
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donhonyc
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Posted: 2006-03-27 10:10 am   Permalink

When the ban for smoking came down in NYC a few years ago it was neither here nor there for me being a non-smoker. Everybody thought it was going to kill, or at least hurt bar business. A few years later I can tell you that I think it's a great idea, and I'm not usually for these so-called 'quality of life' laws. Bar and club business in this town is still booming, in fact they can't build them fast enough in the Meat Packing District and the East Village. And now I can go out, hang out at a bar or see a band at a club and my clothes don't smell like smoke at the end of the night. The only people whose business this is gonna hurt is the makers of Febreze.

As far as this arresting drunks at bars...I mean, isn't that why people go to bars in the first place? What's next? Arresting people at restaurants when they over eat? Tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the responsiblity of the bar/bartender to eject the people that get really, really drunk and obnoxious?


 
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joefla70
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Posted: 2006-03-27 11:03 am   Permalink

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On 2006-03-22 16:01, johnnievelour wrote:
"There are a lot of dangerous and stupid things people do when they're intoxicated, other than get behind the wheel of a car," Beck said.



Yeah, like legislating and enforcing ridiculous laws like this!

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Sabu The Coconut Boy
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Posted: 2006-03-27 12:17 pm   Permalink

I was recently arrested in Texas for going topless at a public pool.

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