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More about Mai Tais, sorry
DJ HawaiianShirt
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Joined: Feb 04, 2006
Posts: 148
From: NoVA, DC
Posted: 2006-04-19 5:02 pm   Permalink

Hi guys,

I'm sort of a newbie to the tiki drink scene(as I'm not too far over 21).

I've been experimenting and have made some pretty good drinks, but I fall short on experience in drinking traditional and tried & true drinks.

I've had Mai Tais before, but when I bought Trader Vic's Mai Tai Mix to make my own, I nearly hurled at the mix's taste. This took me aback because wasn't it Trader Vic himself that created the Mai Tai?

I guess my question is, since Mai Tais tend to be one of the textbook tiki drinks, is there a good mix to use? And am I alone in thinking Trader Vic's is horrible? Is it worth skipping the mix to make a Mai Tai from scratch?



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captnkirk
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Joined: Nov 06, 2002
Posts: 322
From: Hockessin, Delaware
Posted: 2006-04-19 7:35 pm   Permalink

I have never mixed a Mai Tai from a mix so I don't know.

If it tasted so bad it almost made you sick, maybe it was a bad bottle of mix. Some times nasty things will grow in bottles that have been cracked open.

P.S. If you have had Mai Tais before, were they sweet and pink?
Real Mai Tais are not pink, pink Mai Tais are not real.

Who cares about authenticity, if you like a drink someone makes for you. Ask how they make it and duplicate it at home.


 
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the drunken hat
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Joined: Dec 20, 2003
Posts: 331
From: Modesto, CA
Posted: 2006-04-19 8:08 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-04-19 17:02, DJ HawaiianShirt wrote:

I've had Mai Tais before, but when I bought Trader Vic's Mai Tai Mix to make my own, I nearly hurled at the mix's taste. This took me aback because wasn't it Trader Vic himself that created the Mai Tai?

I guess my question is, since Mai Tais tend to be one of the textbook tiki drinks, is there a good mix to use? And am I alone in thinking Trader Vic's is horrible? Is it worth skipping the mix to make a Mai Tai from scratch?



[ This Message was edited by: DJ HawaiianShirt 2006-04-19 17:03 ]



the only good experience i've had with mai tai mix is using it as a marinade for chicken!

make mai tais from scratch. do not use a straw in the glass and garnish with fresh mint. that is the only true mai tai.
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tikigap
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Joined: Jan 19, 2006
Posts: 838
From: Arlingtron Virginia
Posted: 2006-04-19 8:28 pm   Permalink

Show us some pictures.

http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=18321&forum=10&start=0

There's some fine lookin' authentic mai tais in them thar pages.
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Hakalugi
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Joined: Aug 10, 2004
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From: Redondo Beach, CA
Posted: 2006-04-19 8:54 pm   Permalink

The best Mai Tai I've ever had was made from following this recipe:
http://www.beachbumberry.com/100dollarmaitai/



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Hakalugi
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From: Redondo Beach, CA
Posted: 2006-04-19 8:56 pm   Permalink

Oh, and if you must use a straw, make sure it's short enough so that your nose is buried in the mint garnish. That mint isn't just for show.

 
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the drunken hat
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Joined: Dec 20, 2003
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From: Modesto, CA
Posted: 2006-04-19 9:27 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-04-19 20:56, Hakalugi wrote:
Oh, and if you must use a straw, make sure it's short enough so that your nose is buried in the mint garnish. That mint isn't just for show.




it sounds funny but this is key!
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LandlubbingRod
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Joined: Apr 05, 2006
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Posted: 2006-04-19 11:06 pm   Permalink

I agree on the no Pink. I continue to disagree about Pineapple. A dash or two fits in nicely.

 
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DJ HawaiianShirt
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Joined: Feb 04, 2006
Posts: 148
From: NoVA, DC
Posted: 2006-04-20 10:35 am   Permalink

Thanks for the advice, guys.

I dislike straws anyway.

Yes, I believe so far the Mai Tais I've had have been on the pink side. But I live in DC, and there aren't exactly many respectable Tiki Bars around here.




 
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Chip and Andy
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From: Corner table, Molokai Lounge, Mai-Kai.
Posted: 2006-04-20 10:56 am   Permalink



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Loki
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Joined: Nov 04, 2005
Posts: 541
From: Boca Raton, FL
Posted: 2006-04-20 11:19 am   Permalink

Who would dare flame you Chip?...me....never. I have had some of your drinks and nobody i know, comes close to mixing like you do. Listen to him folks...he would never lead you astray, unless he makes the $100 mai tai from your personal bar
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LandlubbingRod
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Posted: 2006-04-20 11:26 am   Permalink

So, is what James Bond drinks really a martini? Purists would note the strong lack of Gin.

Sometimes, just sometimes, the idea behind a drink is so strong that it can transcend being just one drink and become a class of drinks. On the other hand, a real Daiquirí is an awesome drink and the class it has spawned does not deserve the name.

However, I wouldn't mind having a cool name for my drink. Its similar $100 Mai Tai(different brands of booze) but replace the rock candy syrup with simple syrup and add a dash (1 tsp) of pineapple juice. Dole Mai Tai, doesn't quite do it for me.

Purist's Punch
Ohh the Irony.

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Hakalugi
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From: Redondo Beach, CA
Posted: 2006-04-20 12:46 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-04-20 11:26, LandlubbingRod wrote:
So, is what James Bond drinks really a martini? Purists would note the strong lack of Gin.




From the book Vintage Spirits & Forgotten Cocktails by Ted Haigh:

"Although the Great Unwashed will nod knowingly and growl at you, "Of course. It's 007's Vodka Martini - Shaken, not stirred," they know not whereof they speak..."


From Casino Royale (the book) you will learn that James Bond's drink was made as such:
3 oz London dry gin (Ian Fleming specified 'British' Gordon's)
1 oz vodka
1/2 oz Kina Lillet


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Apparently it was dumbed down in the movies, probably to make it less complex thus easier to grasp for the moronic masses.



 
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PiPhiRho
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 1021
From: Redondo Beach
Posted: 2006-04-20 1:11 pm   Permalink

If using the commercial bottled TV mix drom the store do not follow the recipe on the label. Use the juice of one FRESH lime, add a little extra orgeat, float it with a good DARK rum, and if you have it add a little orange bitters (not angostura butters). This makes a mai tai made from the mix a little more palatable. But the best thing to do is to make a mai tai from scratch.


 
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KuKuAhu
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Joined: Dec 23, 2002
Posts: 567
From: Kahiki, Ohio
Posted: 2006-04-20 1:32 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-04-20 10:56, Chip and Andy wrote:
Is the Mai-Tai becoming the Martini of the Tiki Bar?



Yes, I believe it is. In fact, I believe it has been for some time now. I'd go even one step further and say that the mai tai is the generic term for a tropical drink. I have had many a red colored syrupy mess served to me in a beer glass under the moniker of mai tai.


Quote:
And, speaking of martini's... just because it is served in a martini glass does not make it a martini. It is a cocktail in a martini glass.



Bingo. Man, we were just talking about that a few months ago. Nothin irritates me more than a "martini menu" where 99.9% of the drinks therein could scarcely be considered a martini in even the most remote sense.

If it is tequila based, it is not a martini. If it contains Godiva liqueur, it is not a martini. Etc.


Quote:
I am expecting to get flamed for this post...



I would be surprised if you did. I'd say you are absolutely correct.

The oldest recipe I have seen for a martini was as follows:

equal parts gin and french vermouth with a dash of orange bitters.. stir with cracked ice.. serve strained into a martini glass

This is quite a different drink from the cold glass of vodka with an olive I get handed me at most bars. Not that I dislike cold vodka mind you, but I'd order that if it was what I wanted.

No vermouth, no martini. And more vermouth than is the current trend if you please. Much more thank you. Oh, and table the vodka and bring the gin out while you are at it.

Now I'll not argue that these "martini" cocktails are bad, some of them are quite palatable, but they deserve a name of their own.

And while we are at it, doesn't anyone order a gibson anymore? And why are manhattans getting as bad as martinis? I can tolerate the lack of rye and the sub of bourbon, but why do they keep forgetting the bitters?

Good post.



Ahu


 
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