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Garage Sales, Thrift Stores, Antique Malls. THEY NOW KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE!
Swanky
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From: Hapa Haole Hideaway, TN
Posted: 2006-08-01 10:33 am   Permalink

Ebay is great at some things and awful at others. It's not the death of antique stores. Basically, things that are too big to ship are hard to sell. And things you cannot easily describe so that someone will find it. It may be the coolest thing ever that people ooh and ah over in the antique store, but on Ebay, no one will see it.

Tiki stuff is easy to search for. The more specific you are the better. "Frankoma mug" is easy to find. "Cool retro thing-a-ma-jig" is not.

Ebay has little to do with tiki mug prices I have seen anywhere. Mostly it's lack of knowledge. Priced too high or low. Very few know what something is worth. And you cannot get $500 for a Frankoma War God mug in an antique store. Unless you are lucky enough to have the number one collector walk by, 99.999999999999999% of the people in your booth will simply scoff. You can't price an antique store like Ebay. Especially on tiki mugs. They will never sell because the market of buyers is too small.

Perhaps at a specialty vintage store you can get closer to Ebay prices, but not likely.

The entire antiques business is based on finding something worth more than you paid for it and getting it to the customer who will buy it. If that was a moral problem, all stores are immoral.

Tiki people are, in general, cheap. The old timers are used to spending under $5 per mug. Hard to pay more and many don't see a point in doing so. Others are coming in and they value these things more than the old timers and others and the market goes up. There are new bidders on Ebay every day trying to get the mugs you and I are. The market is generally going up and at the same time leveling off. Fewer big dollar sales, while at the same time the average mug price is steadily going up.

Maybe someone should start a price guide and put the Tiki Leilani as "Ultra Rare - Value:$35" and just see what happens...
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Hula Cat
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Joined: Jul 14, 2006
Posts: 171
From: Bellows Falls Vermont
Posted: 2006-08-01 11:58 am   Permalink

The retail shops hold far less interest for me than the used or antique shops....many of the antique shops now mix in reproduction stuff anyway ..no problem with that IF they clearly label it as such (well a little bit of a problem)....swanky is right on with the analysis...it comes and goes .....tiki today.stone washed jeans tomorrow (heaven forbid!)....If you wanna end up with million dollars in the antiques and collectibles business all you have to do is start with two million! (or write some price guides)...Myself I'm so easily charmed by old and unusual stuff that when I see it and it's "cheap"(and the rent's paid) I buy.....I have three Barns full of "worthless crap"that didn't find a home in a timely fashion...luckily , Tiki has the charm,fun and reasonable availability that can satisfy my sickness.....plus I can even make some !...lots of logs in the woods here......but I am afraid of those chain saws!... the HUNT.....I must get back to the HUNT!.....Tipsy knows the rhythm of fickle collectors....and Tom Slick I do know of those you speak..it's just that here in the country most aren't such baraccudas.....Aloha and Mahalo !
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TikiJosh
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Joined: Feb 01, 2005
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Posted: 2006-08-01 12:39 pm   Permalink

How many people have seen the Accoutrements mugs at their local antique stores priced the same as the vintage OMC or Orchids mugs?
I've seen two dealers in Orange doing this. They even say Accoutrements 2002 or whatever on the bottom, it obviously isn't an antique, and they're selling it for the same price as a PMP! The other problem I've noticed is that the mugs being produced by Dynasty Wholesalers look exactly like some of the old Orchids designs. I've seen one dealer that was selling a Dynasty mug at antique prices-- on the order of $10 -15. Crazy. Especially since you can buy these directly from dynasty for a couple bucks each. Of course, you usually have to buy mugs by the case if you order from Dynasty.
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tikipedia
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Joined: Aug 25, 2004
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From: San Diego
Posted: 2006-08-01 8:56 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-08-01 10:33, Swanky wrote:

Maybe someone should start a price guide and put the Tiki Leilani as "Ultra Rare - Value:$35" and just see what happens...




Here ya go... a Tiki Leilani for $35
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TikiJosh
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Posted: 2006-08-02 4:25 pm   Permalink

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On 2006-08-01 20:56, tikipedia wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-08-01 10:33, Swanky wrote:

Maybe someone should start a price guide and put the Tiki Leilani as "Ultra Rare - Value:$35" and just see what happens...




Here ya go... a Tiki Leilani for $35



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Ojaitimo
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Joined: Aug 04, 2006
Posts: 1317
Posted: 2006-08-05 1:16 pm   Permalink

I bought a few tiki items at a sidewalk sale in LA last week. I ended up giving the guy $30.00 for a number of items and he seemed happy to sell a dozen items at once. That brought the total to $10.00 each for a large copper leaf lamp from the forties I think, that was the find of the year for me and a large stuffed fish that may be real or not. The bargains are still to be had if you have the patience. I wasnt able to fit all the items into my Camry and had to sell back a great Tiki table for 10.00 ,the guy offered to tie it on my roof but I wasn't ready to drive to Ojai like that. Ojaitimo

 
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pappythesailor
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Joined: Jul 07, 2005
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From: Mass.
Posted: 2006-08-06 02:41 am   Permalink

I meant to reply but it's time to head to the flea market. Wish me luck!

 
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Tikiwahine
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Joined: Apr 09, 2003
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From: Victoria, BC
Posted: 2006-08-06 08:56 am   Permalink

At the Sally Ann on Friday (Salvation Army) I came across some nice lampshades. One was a two-tier gimp-wrapped plastic-fiberglass panel jobbie. Some of the lacing had come undone and would have to be replaced. Price tag? $20! For something missing it's main part (the lamp) and in desperate need of TLC.

So I brought it up to the counter and asked if I could get a better deal. The woman thinks it's a good price since it's 'from the 50s'. What the hell? It's broken and missing the most important part! So I get it for $14 and let her know that a 1950s car isn't worth much after it's been smashed up, plus this is a thrift store, where everything they receive is by donation. I still don't know where I'm going to get bronze coloured gimp.

Ticks me off when thrift shops price things astronomically. They often put $5 - $10 on items that came 'free with purchase!'

Hawaiian shirts are priced between $4.99 and $19.99, with the more expensive ones being vintage barkcloth. But not always. They're so dammed wishy-washy!

I hate boutique prices on thrift store items.
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teaKEY
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Joined: Nov 09, 2004
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From: The thumb !
Posted: 2006-08-06 09:00 am   Permalink

Good luck

Tiki is the first that I have seriously collected. It sucks because I'm in the wrong state, started five years too late, and no one I know personal even likes tiki. I try to buy the best mugs I can, because I know about them but no one I know would even know the different.
I for the most part, like to buy the new mugs. They are the vintage to tomorrow. ex. Like the Crazy Al mugs that Tiki Farm did, I don't have, sold out form the farm before I started collecting. Maybe because, that are sold out, I want them more.

The first tiki mug that I owned was one that I made. (I bet few could say that) And that mug is actually the best mug that I have ever held and probably will ever hold. I probably bought the next ones to compare the differences. And then I bought more because I wanted people to see that their were even better ones than the last one I bought. No one really notices. I think it boils down to that it gives me something to do. But where I was getting at is I would rather buy the new mugs for a couple of good reasons.
Buying vintage mugs, I always wonder if they were stolen from the bar thirty years ago. If you buy something stolen, its almost as bad as stealing it yourself. Thats why I almost don't think that I would want a Chin-tiki mug. Plus, you are paying someone would didn't pay for it.
Buying new, I know where it came form and I know that I am in no way paying for it more than it as ever sold.
I know that the mind who made the mug lives in the same time, and faces a lot of the same issues in the world at the time as I do. They are living artist that could use the money to farther their craft or art and tiki. It you look at it as art, the new mugs are pretty cheap. MAybe not for everyone, and its not, but what it. And thats a good thing.
I don't want a say common vintage mug (enter name here), that is ten dollars with ten dollar shipping and handling. Think about this. That mug was two dollars or free with a drink years ago. Its five times the price someone payed. Shipping, which is probably just a energy waste on our planet is added into the price making the mug really twenty dollars and who really wants that. But say the mug came from California. It was bought and changed hands many times and made it into the winter state of Michigan. That cool, it cool that the mug probably doesn't/shouldn't belong here, but it does. California has too many of them anyways, this little guy made it. Tiki is spreading, all is good. Now it finds its way onto Ebay. Two minutes left and its going to Tennessee. Three seconds left and now, back to California.
I think the stuff that we make on TC is where its really at. No shipping if we make it and keep it. The feelings we had when we made it, and the connection to the maker and the buyer who knows the maker. It was made (Something that is cool that wasn't here yesterday) Thats the best part.

All mugs probably find their true owner in the end just like all the water finds its way back into the ocean.
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Humuhumu
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From: San Francisco
Posted: 2006-08-06 09:07 am   Permalink

Thrift stores have always been all over the place with their pricing. Ten years ago, I found a floppy diskette in a thrift store, with a price tag marked "$5 - SOFTWARE". What was the disk? One of those AOL Free Trial disks!

A lot of thrift stores are also trying to raise money for charity -- I don't see any problem with them getting a fair price for their stuff, or at least trying to. It's got to be a massive challenge to try to accurately price the broad variety of stuff that passes through their doors. Can't say I blame them if they get a little overexcited when they come across a tiki mug in the masses of mostly boring stuff they have to price -- I know the feeling!

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naugatiki
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Joined: Jan 02, 2004
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From: Port Angeles, Wa
Posted: 2006-08-07 08:17 am   Permalink

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Thrift stores have always been all over the place with their pricing. Ten years ago, I found a floppy diskette in a thrift store, with a price tag marked "$5 - SOFTWARE". What was the disk? One of those AOL Free Trial disks!





If you had 100 of those to donate to Goodwill I wonder if they would give you a $500 tax deduction?


 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2006-08-07 11:42 am   Permalink

teaKEY,As far as stealing mugs goes. If someone did not steal mugs they would sit in the bar be used over and over till they break or are so worn no one would want them. Thats why it is so hard to find a Kahiki Hoffman Mystery drink bowl. They did not sell them, Plus they were too big to steal. I had ash trays made for my restaurant With the name on it so people WOULD steal them.( alot of people asked to buy them and did.) But the ones that were stolen are saved and I hope will be out there a long time. Keeping the name of the place out there for a long time. Thats why you put the name on there. Also the high price of those drinks is to make up for theft of mug,spillage,cost of doing business.

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Humuhumu
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From: San Francisco
Posted: 2006-08-07 11:45 am   Permalink

Often the mug a drink came in was intended to be kept as a souvenir, and was part of the price of the drink.

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Mike the Headhunter
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Joined: May 24, 2004
Posts: 190
From: Wastelands of western NC
Posted: 2006-08-10 07:24 am   Permalink

I my say is... the market is up again and that is fine. I don't have much to sell but I found. When I did sell something I liked a lot I just regret it later(goddess of love skull) so I try to sell when I know I will need some cash for something(hukilau). I love the bay and hunting in the wild is great too and I expect to pay for something I want but set limits. It's a lot like gambling you have to keep it fun and enjoy what your doing. I work in a casino and know that a lot of people like to gamble and they have set their(ier?,never remember) limit to keep things fun. I have set mine and can say that finding tiki has had nothing but a positive effect on my life. As a result I have found a link to my culture and heritage(pottery/ceramics) that otherwise I may not have found being a skate punk for many years. There's about a buck-fifty and here's the other two cents... if I am on here buzzed up on caffeine and alcohol and offer ya a mug take me up on it, I need the motivation. Best wishes and boat drinks, time to make some money for hukilau or maybe it's fishing time.

 
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