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fartsatune
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Joined: Aug 25, 2002
Posts: 252
From: vancouver
|  Posted: 2002-12-20 3:04 pm Permalink
Can someone please help determine the ethnic origin of this painting? I am not very good at these things and some of you are very worldly...thanks for your help!http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=930811368
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fartsatune
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Joined: Aug 25, 2002
Posts: 252
From: vancouver
| Posted: 2002-12-20 3:05 pm Permalink
I don't know how to get the url to highlight...darn..this is NOT my day..hell..this is not my month!
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SullTiki
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Joined: Mar 24, 2002
Posts: 228 | Posted: 2002-12-20 3:08 pm Permalink
You just needed a space after "help"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=930811368
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fartsatune
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Joined: Aug 25, 2002
Posts: 252
From: vancouver
| Posted: 2002-12-20 3:10 pm Permalink
Thanks Sull tiki...I really appreciate that!!
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SugarCaddyDaddy
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Joined: Jun 03, 2002
Posts: 1500
From: Huntington Beach, California
| Posted: 2002-12-20 8:39 pm Permalink
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fartsatune wrote:
Can someone please help determine the ethnic origin of this painting? I am not very good at these things and some of you are very worldly... |
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Well, I'm not very worldly, but if you are wondering if this would fit into your tiki-style decor, and you are worried that it might not be a "true" Polynesian or Hawaiian painting, I say just buy it if you like it!
I must say too that if the seller advertised this as a Hispanic painting (where the hec is 'Hispania' anyway?), with a colorful Mexican/Spanish blanket in the background instead of bamboo, I'd probably think "yeah, it's hispanic". Either way, it's cool.
Just my 2 coconuts worth.
SugarCaddyDaddy
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bigbrotiki
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 10601
From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2002-12-21 09:01 am Permalink
Well, judging by the breast size I would say that...
Ha, I'm only kidding! No but seriously, the hairdo and flowers seem more Phillipino or Balinese, but still, a 1970 nude bar painting is always a find.
The nude painting supperclub is another lost American tradition. I was just marveling at a matchbook from the "Domino Club" on Sutter St in San Francisco:
"World famous for Cuisine, GLORIA & Galaxy of Paintings"
Then it has a picture of "Evelyn" on it (nude on a sheepskin rug) , and reads on
"One of nearly 300 oil paintings adorning the Domino Club dining rooms."
Inside it not only promises a Twin Piano Bar and a Vocalist, but a "Live Undraped Model"!?
I wonder if she was luxuriating in a red velvet draped box with an ornate golden frame around it, like a 3D oil painting...
Anyone in SF know anything about this club (and where all the art went!)?
[ This Message was edited by: bigbrotiki on 2002-12-21 09:06 ]
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fartsatune
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Joined: Aug 25, 2002
Posts: 252
From: vancouver
| Posted: 2002-12-21 1:30 pm Permalink
Thanks sugarcaddydaddy...you are right, buying what you like is more important than where it is from!
Sven, I suspected Bali as you mentioned. Thanks for your input! By the way, do you happen to know why both nude and non-nude paintings of polynesian women were often green skinned? I have seen this skin tone many times , most recently in Mark Ryden's tiki paintings. It is a minor detail, but I wonder if there is a specific reason or just an artistic vision of women?? Just one of many things I don't know!!
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tikifish
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 2720
From: Toronto,Canada
| Posted: 2002-12-21 2:22 pm Permalink
http://www.tretchikoff.demon.co.uk/tretch.html
The green lady craze was started by Vladimir Tretchikoff - of course, that's what he says - he is known to be rather boastful. But I think it's pobably true in this case. He is the artist behind the most famous green lady of all time!
Speaking of artists, I saw some quite nice prints of some polyneasian ladies on black velvet by a guy named E. Craig Hille III - got to look him up and see if it's worth going back and paying the antique store their exorbitant price. Anyone got any info?
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bigbrotiki
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 10601
From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2002-12-21 7:51 pm Permalink
Whenever Tretchikoff is mentioned, I have to recommend this fine book
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861541945/qid%3D1040524389/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-1630691-1500625
and the website where you still can buy his prints http://www.tatea.com/PRINTTRECH.htm
and the Tretchikoff Yahoo group (!)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vladimirtretchikoff/
(which is a tad less active than Tiki Central)
...and mention the fact that I love his "Lady of the Orient " painting I have in my bedroom 
By the way, none of his green/blue skinned asian beauties were ever a.) nude, or b.) Polynesian. Still, because of the Chinese restaurant/Polynesian cross-fertilization they can be found in Tiki temples, like the Kon -Tiki in Tuscon, Arizona.
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