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Ohana Hut Sale Announcement
hanford_lemoore
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Joined: Mar 23, 2002
Posts: 1870
From: Tiki Central
Posted: 2006-09-15 4:06 pm   Permalink

Thanks everyone for participating in the Ohana Hut sale.

The Ohana Hut was designed to be for Tiki Central members. Not Grand Members, not Long-time members, and not members with a high post count. It's for all Tiki Central members. We knew that unfortunately the demand outweighed supply. This is why the sale happened using what essentially amounts to a "line". We all know how lines work -- First come, first serve.

However, before Stuckie launched the sale, we had a discussion and we both agreed that we wanted these mugs to go to Tiki Central members only. This is why we didn't just put it up on Munktiki and sell them until they sold out.

But some new accounts popped up around the time of the sale. Regardless of whether these new accounts are "legit" (I am sure that some if not all of them are), these are not the members that this mug was designed for. Anyone who is new to Tiki Central as of September 9th simply cannot comprehend what this mug means, and what it's about.

So I have asked Stuckie to limit the sale of mugs to Tiki Central accounts that had posted at least one time on or before September 8th, 2006 -- which is the day Stuckie announced the sale. Stuckie has agreed.

I know this will be a disappointment to a few, but it really impacts only people who are brand spanking new to Tiki Central. And If by chance there was a long-time lurker who finally signed up just for the mug -- well, now they're all signed up and it won't happen again.

I want to thanks Stuckie and Munktiki for putting so much effort into doing this for Tiki Central. It's been a lot more work for them than we anticipated, and they have been great.

Sorry for the confusion on all this. We live and learn.

Thanks for reading.

~Hanford

[ This Message was edited by: hanford_lemoore 2006-09-15 16:58 ]


 
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tikigreg
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Joined: Mar 24, 2002
Posts: 1158
From: ClubTiki
Posted: 2006-09-15 4:10 pm   Permalink

I think I made the cut.

[Edited for sarcasm]

[ This Message was edited by: tikigreg 2006-09-15 18:09 ]

[Edited for the fact that it wan't sarcam but wry humor]

[ This Message was edited by: tikigreg 2006-09-15 18:13 ]


 
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JenTiki
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Joined: Jun 16, 2006
Posts: 1835
From: An island in the bay
Posted: 2006-09-15 4:14 pm   Permalink

Bravo Hanford!

I believe you've made a fair decision.


 
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tikichic
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Joined: May 16, 2003
Posts: 256
Posted: 2006-09-15 4:35 pm   Permalink

You would not have had this whole post-sale controversy if the "terms" of the sale had been posted well in advance. In theory you should have made the sign-up cut off date be right after you started the "head count" thread many months ago to avoid this dilemma.

Just my .02 cents worth.


 
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tikigreg
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Joined: Mar 24, 2002
Posts: 1158
From: ClubTiki
Posted: 2006-09-15 4:37 pm   Permalink

And the beat goes on.

 
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hanford_lemoore
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Joined: Mar 23, 2002
Posts: 1870
From: Tiki Central
Posted: 2006-09-15 4:41 pm   Permalink

Tikichic,

Thanks for the advice, but having the rules announced well in advance didn't stop you from trying to order a second set of Shag Prints from a shell TC account.

I try to antisipate problems before they happen. But when do happen, I try to take care of them. That's what's happening here.

~Hanford

Quote:

On 2006-09-15 16:35, tikichic wrote:
You would not have had this whole post-sale controversy if the "terms" of the sale had been posted well in advance. In theory you should have made the sign-up cut off date be right after you started the "head count" thread many months ago to avoid this dilemma.

Just my .02 cents worth.




 
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kingstiedye
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Joined: Oct 05, 2005
Posts: 1301
From: sackatomato
Posted: 2006-09-15 4:49 pm   Permalink

zing! this is absolutely the right thing to do. bravo!

 
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TikiTrevor
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Joined: Jan 15, 2004
Posts: 205
From: Portland, OR (originally
Posted: 2006-09-15 5:12 pm   Permalink

Good Call Hanford!

 
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tikiexpy
Tiki Centralite

Joined: Oct 07, 2005
Posts: 35
From: Temecula, CA
Posted: 2006-09-15 6:03 pm   Permalink

Are new codes going to be sent out to those that are eligible?

[ This Message was edited by: tikiexpy 2006-09-15 18:03 ]


 
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Queen Kamehameha
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Joined: Oct 21, 2003
Posts: 1410
From: So Cal
Posted: 2006-09-15 6:06 pm   Permalink

cool,hopefully I made the cut

Amy


 
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pablus
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Joined: Jul 23, 2003
Posts: 2155
From: www.crazedmugs.com
Posted: 2006-09-15 8:00 pm   Permalink

King Solomon (Islands) would be proud.

Well done and Mahalo.

Now, where's Al-ii in all of this?


 
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ookoo lady
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Joined: Jun 24, 2004
Posts: 779
Posted: 2006-09-15 8:08 pm   Permalink

I agree that this was a reasonable decision, but people on the "waiting list" shouldn't expect that this is going to free up a huge number of mugs.

I looked back through the list, and by my count there will be 5 people who will now be excluded:

Jinjav - (who signed up on May 27, 2006, but didn't post until this thread)

Mrs. Tikipug - (I assume this is wife of Tikipug, a longtime TC member)

Mikeytiki

Alexandriatiki

Talybryn

I hope they understand the reasons for this, and stick around so we get to know them.


 
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kingstiedye
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Joined: Oct 05, 2005
Posts: 1301
From: sackatomato
Posted: 2006-09-15 8:26 pm   Permalink

tikisass and jmndc , too.


 
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hewey
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Joined: Sep 14, 2004
Posts: 4278
From: Sydney, Australia
Posted: 2006-09-15 10:24 pm   Permalink

As fair a way as any to deal with it

 
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MikeyTiki
Grand Member (2 years)  

Joined: Sep 09, 2006
Posts: 128
From: Portland, OR
Posted: 2006-09-16 12:25 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-09-15 16:06, hanford_lemoore wrote:
But some new accounts popped up around the time of the sale. Regardless of whether these new accounts are "legit" (I am sure that some if not all of them are), these are not the members that this mug was designed for. Anyone who is new to Tiki Central as of September 9th simply cannot comprehend what this mug means, and what it's about.

So I have asked Stuckie to limit the sale of mugs to Tiki Central accounts that had posted at least one time on or before September 8th, 2006 -- which is the day Stuckie announced the sale. Stuckie has agreed.



I don't agree with this, I would be one of the ones excluded, but I had been reading TC way before Sept. 8th, but never had anything to say so I hadn't signed up for an account. Once I read Stuckie's post that a TC account was required for the Ohana Hut, I signed up for one. The person I learned about TC from has been reading it for years, but didn't have an account until today. (Go ahead check the logs and see how long our IP address has been hitting your site.) I followed the threads, read the rules, followed the rules, made time to be available to post when Stuckie setup the 'line', and then you changed the rules.

My opinion and situation probably doesn't change anything, after all you and Stuckie make the rules, even if they are after the fact. So this time because people complained, you ruled that people without an account and a post before 9/9 aren't Ohana. Next time, if there is a next time, after people complain, which they will, you will probably change the rules after the fact again to say that anyone without 100, or some other arbitray number of posts isn't Ohana.

If that is how you define and treat Ohana, that's fine, it's nice to know, but that isn't how treat my Ohana.

On the other hand if existing TC memebers were setting up shell accounts to try to get more than one Ohana Hut that is a totally different story.


 
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