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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2006-10-11 08:38 am   Permalink

I have to say that I still think Shag is the one person qualified to remake tomorrowland..

He puts googie in his drawings. He gets it.

I hope he reads this and makes a pitch.


 
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Cammo
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Posted: 2006-10-11 10:31 am   Permalink

I've heard that the Dland management and designers don't like Shag very much. He has too many ideas and doesn't do exactly what they say, apparently. If he was on staff he would have been fired a long time ago.

The Disneyland designers in fact seem to have tried to copy his style (which is funny because Shag is lifting a lot of his stuff from 50's era Disneyland designers like Rolly Crump & Ward Kimball) for the 50th Anniversary items; that horrid stuff they put out with the grey-blue background colors and flat graphics of different sections of the park.

Here's my beef with the current Disneyland design staff; the 50th Anniversary items were lousy. I was hoping to get a really nice watch or at least a cool mug, but the stuff they ended up producing was dull colored and unimaginative. The 50th watch was in that dull blue again, or in dark brown on a black background; an unreadable watchface.

Why didn't they make everythjing gold colored? Why use battleship grey? What, are they crazy? Why not use the plethora of Disneyland 50's graphics to re-issue or update some new products? Why not do what Shag envisioned; a simple product for each section of the park original to 1955, and a shirt to match?

I was really hoping they'd do a watch for each land, a silver and red Tomorrowland watch, a woodsy Frontierland one with a Davy Crocket cap on the front, etc. How about a Fantasyland Matterhorn watch that plays the flute song as an alarm? You get the idea. Why don't they get the idea?

And it seems to be something you can blame on the designers themselves; I wouldn't have put my name on that stuff they were trying to sell.

Anyway, hey, the new Winnie the Pooh ride is not too bad. Finally they remembered the little kids who make the place tick tock.

And the Mickey Mouse Club watch in the shape of a TV set was really nice. A beautiful job. Everything should have that much class.


 
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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2006-10-11 11:58 am   Permalink

I agree: The Pooh ride is excellent, in the same dark ride style of the venerable fantasyland attractions.

I should have bought the Shag aloha shirt while I had the chance!


 
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Tangaroa
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Posted: 2006-10-11 12:28 pm   Permalink



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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2006-10-11 12:53 pm   Permalink

I gotta say, I like the 1967 version better!

 
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Tangaroa
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Posted: 2006-10-11 1:15 pm   Permalink

Me too - but the 1950s version is more Googie... the Hench '67 is more modernist... It's what ever floats your boat! Actually - there are elements (like the lighting) of the 50s version I find almost as strong...

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procinema29
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Posted: 2006-10-12 6:48 pm   Permalink

Definitely, the Peoplemover and the Innerspace ride are much missed by me. It's been such a long time since I saw those things. I'm not a big fan of the new new Tomorrowland. The new Space Mountain ride is okay, but I get scared by that thing. A rollercoaster in the dark--what kind of a mind came up with that?

 
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Tangaroa
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Posted: 2006-10-12 9:42 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-10-12 18:48, procinema29 wrote:
The new Space Mountain ride is okay, but I get scared by that thing. A rollercoaster in the dark--what kind of a mind came up with that?



John Hench, actually! Space Mountain was originally part of the plan for 1967 Tomorrowland, but didn't make it to reality until 1977...
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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2006-10-13 09:12 am   Permalink

Yeah, and the original had the cars outside the mountain!

 
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procinema29
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Posted: 2006-10-13 12:05 pm   Permalink

Well...I went on the new Space Mountain last week, and they lost the Dick Dale surf soundtrack, and that was a BIIIIIG minus...that cheery little track helped keep me calm during those previous journeys on Space Mountain. Smoother ride, and better effects, but I thought that surf track really made it.

 
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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2013-10-14 5:48 pm   Permalink

I wish Tangaroa had not removed all the posts!

 
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