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Trader Vic's(Beverly Hills)fate sealed? Not if we can help it!
tiki leki
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From: Point Loma
Posted: 2007-01-21 10:38 am   Permalink

I WONDER IF THE TRADER VIC'S IN BEVERLY HILLS IS A CORPORATE OWNED FACILITY OR IS IT A PRIVATELY HELD FRANCHISE.

 
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Swamp Tiki
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From: The Shadowy Moss Draped South
Posted: 2007-01-21 12:23 pm   Permalink

Yes Ohana, the Trader Vic's Beverly Hills does qualify for the National Register. As I stated from atop my soapbox earlier....Contact the State Historic Preservation Officer. Take this link to the Office of Historic Preservation

http://ohp.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=1054

You can contact the office with the information below. Remember that this is a government entity, but it is designed from a grassroots perspective and run by people who feel the way we do.

California Department of Parks and Recreation
Office of Historic Preservation
1416 9th Street, Room 1442, Sacramento, CA 95814
P.O. Box 942896 Sacramento, CA 94296-0001
TEL: 916-653-6624 | FAX: 916-653-9824 | calshpo@ohp.parks.ca.gov


Also remember that protests from the curb can backfire and get the wrong message sent out if not handled (organized) with care. Petitions are a great way to get your message out. Write letters to TV's corporate office. Feel them out, get into their heads.... There are many effective ways to approach this issue. Re-read my ealier post and contact me if there are further questions that require drawn-out, more detailed answers.

swamptiki@gmail.com

I would be happy to draw up the National Register Nomination Forms whenever the ball starts to roll. GET ACTIVE!


Swamp


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Son-of-Kelbo
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From: NOHO, CA
Posted: 2007-01-21 8:47 pm   Permalink

Mahalo, Swamp Tiki. Your words are wise, and your links are keener weapons than curbside rants could ever be.

Of course I'm still willing to consider chaining myself and anybody else who's willing to join me to the entranceway tiki at TV's on St. Patty's Day to stop the bulldozers, but certainly procedural pressure, applied with finesse to the right bureaucratic pressure points, may do more to win a more lasting victory (more than, say, a blurb on the local news).

You have given us much to consider (and from a look at your website, it looks like you know your s**t regarding these battles); let us all act on your suggestions. There's still plenty of time to try other means before guerilla tactics may be the means of last resort.

But let us try to win this one, Kanes & Wahines. Because losing this one will hurt dearly, as dearly as losing Kahiki and Kelbo's, and-pick-your-own-cherished-bastion of Timeless Tiki. And if enough of us fight this, failure will not be an option.

Cheers and aloha,
SOK
www.yoyoisland.com


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Ojaitimo
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Posted: 2007-01-23 12:48 am   Permalink

I think a meeting between everyone who wants to get involved with the Beverly Hills Trader Vic’s on Saint Patrick's day is a great idea and I will be there but I would like to get started sooner.
I plan to be at the Velocity Cafe 2127 Lincoln Blvd Santa Monica, California, this Friday January 26, 2007 at 7PM PST. You can be there in person or on line , they have internet access at Velocity Café with 6 computers or your own and I will have my lap top connected to Tiki Central and Tiki Shout.
Why Velocity Café? I stopped at the Velocity Cafe the other day when I spotted these painted tiki to take these pictures.





The cook told me that the owner Mike who painted this self portrait with tiki, had more tiki paintings on the outside walls but the Santa Monica "Design Police" had ordered them to be painted out as they didn't conform to their standards and violated sighnage laws.


I plan to interview the owner if he is there Friday or the manager with video that will be on You Tube next week. I’d like to type the Q&A in Tiki Shout if that’s OK with everyone. It sounds like Velocity Café could use some support from some of us and I would like to hear the owners story and see pictures of the tiki that were painted out.
While there we could also get input from TCers and others to come up with a plan to try and save Trader Vic’s.






I thought rather than meet at a bar and have drinks, we could drink coffee or smoothies, get caffeined and sugared up and come up with a plan.
Swamp Tiki, I hope you can attend on line. You have the knowledge and experience to facilitate this. Son of Kelbo, Cristiki, I know this is short notice for this Friday to be there in person but maybe we can make it a weekly meeting?
Sabu, Hiltiki, Premex and everyone else who wants to get involved. In the words of the Tiki Seabees of the U.S. Navy "Can Do" So please try and be there either way. (Except you Grog, you're too grouchy to have around with that club and after Kenny.....}

I hope to see some of you in person or on line this Friday January 26, 2007 at the Velocity Café between 7PM PST and 9PM.

http://velocity-cafe.com/index.htm


Ojaitimo Tim



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Tipsy McStagger
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From: HELL
Posted: 2007-01-23 1:15 pm   Permalink

never mind getting out the war clubs!! get out the crow bars and start dismanteling!! i want that neon sign goddamnit!!!!

 
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Son-of-Kelbo
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From: NOHO, CA
Posted: 2007-01-23 4:25 pm   Permalink

This sent to Steve Lopez today, thanks to Christiki's info:

_____________________________

Dear Mr. Lopez,

The recent announcement that Trader Vic's Beverly Hills is to be demolished is tremendously upsetting to many of us who are beyond sick and tired of losing our great city's most renowned landmarks.

As part of a community (both local and worldwide) of friends and enthusiasts posting online at Tiki Central (
www.tikicentral.com ), a collection of forums for those interested in that wonderful vein of "Polynesian Pop" still running strong through American sub-culture, and, also, as a native of Los Angeles who has too often endured the heartbreaking loss of our irreplacable cultural icons, I am writing to ask if you may be willing to help those of us who care, to defend Trader Vic's from the same oblivion suffered by so many of LA's cherished establishments.

A groundswell of protest is in the works, but we will need help from the media: help to sound the alarm about this impending disaster, and help to get the word out about how to mount an effective protest to prevent it.

Will you consider helping us declare this fight to preserve this legendary venue, where the greatest stars and celebrities have shone, out of respect for the past generation who created it, the present generation who revere it, and future generations who have yet to appreciate it?

If you agree that the loss of our own unique Trader Vic's restaurant (at this very time when new ones are being built elsewhere around the world) would indeed be a further, shameful, loss to our city's heritage and charisma, I hope you will respond, with permission to quote your response to the online community so they may take heart that the Times cares about the fight we're preparing for.

Mahalo and aloha,

[signed]

_____________________________

Hope everybody else will try this, or something like this, at this "Overture" in the campaign. I'll be following up on the other leads as well this week.

Can't make this Friday in person at Velocity, but can perhaps participate in cyberspace at 7:00pm. How many "first salvos" will we be able to discuss by then? A few at least, I hope!

Cheers and aloha,
SOK
www.yoyoisland.com

p.s.: As for "crowbars", well I can think of an immdiate activity for that sentiment, and TV's "demolition" isn't particularly foremost. We need allies to help keep Trader Vic's parts in one place, WHERE THEY ARE, not scattered to the carrion wind...


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That once there was a Spot,
Where Blowfish all wore sunglasses,
and Tiki-times were hot..."
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Ojaitimo
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Posted: 2007-01-23 7:42 pm   Permalink

I agree, as the prez said,"You're either with us or you are against us"





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Ojaitimo
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Posted: 2007-01-23 7:52 pm   Permalink

How about some tiki artists coming forward to try and save Trader Vic's like Shag is doing here? I don't see many of you responding. Come on people, get involved!


Sales of Shag Print to Benefit
Ennis House Restoration

The Ennis House Foundation is pleased to announce the availability of a limited-edition color print by the artist Shag featuring Frank Lloyd Wright's Ennis House. Net proceeds from print sales will support the foundation's efforts to stabilize and restore Wright's 1924 Ennis House in Los Feliz.

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christiki295
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From: LA-2547 mls east Hawaii &5500 Easter Is
Posted: 2007-01-24 12:11 am   Permalink

The way I see it, and this may be somewhat of a summary, these are the angles:

1. Convince the owner to incorporate TV by shame
(While there is room on the site, if the Waldorf Astoria will pay for the corner location, no amout of shame may counteract the cash)

2. Either the City of BH or the State designates TV as a historic site (over the objections of the owner).

3. Attempt to influence the BH planning commission by claiming the Environmental Impact Reviw report was insufficient (I do not know of the status of this)(However, this may be difficult because the land is already zoned for a hotel)

4. Contact TV corporate to see if they will intervene.

5. Encourage the LA Conservancy to become invovled

6. Find a No-growth organization to litigate based on the increased traffic.
(Again, this may be difficult because Wilshire & Santa Monica are already busy thoroughfares, so more traffic on those streets will not be problematic)

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christiki295
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From: LA-2547 mls east Hawaii &5500 Easter Is
Posted: 2007-01-24 6:12 pm   Permalink

I have heard that an EIR has to be completed, and during that process, there will be opportunity for input and opposition.
I have also heard that local neighborhood groups will be fighting on the increased congestion issue.


 
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christiki295
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From: LA-2547 mls east Hawaii &5500 Easter Is
Posted: 2007-01-24 6:52 pm   Permalink

This from the BH City website:

PLANNING COMMISSION
A five-member commission which meets on the second and fourth Thursdays of each month at 1:30pm. Community Development Department - Planning.

The five-member Planning Commission is appointed by the City Council to carry out a variety of delegated functions. State law sets out the areas over which the Planning Commission has authority, either as a decision-making body or advisory to the City Council.

The Commission is responsible for recommending broad development policies to the City Council, and once adopted in the form of the City's General Plan, for reviewing development applications for their conformance to the General Plan. The Commission acts as an advisory body to the City Council on applications for subdivision of land (including condominiums) and, absent an appeal to the City Council, is the final authority over a variety of discretionary development applications (Conditional Use Permits, Development Plan Review Permits, etc.), variances from the zoning regulations (sitting as the Board of Zoning Appeals) and for the environmental assessment of such applications, as proscribed by law.

As the Planning Agency, it also sits as the review panel for state and federally mandated programs.

http://www.beverlyhills.org/presence/connect/CoBH/Homepage/Local%2BGovernment/Commissions%2Band%2BCommittees/Planning%2BCommission/






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christiki295
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From: LA-2547 mls east Hawaii &5500 Easter Is
Posted: 2007-01-24 6:59 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-01-21 10:38, tiki leki wrote:
I WONDER IF THE TRADER VIC'S IN BEVERLY HILLS IS A CORPORATE OWNED FACILITY OR IS IT A PRIVATELY HELD FRANCHISE.



Good question. This is where to find out:


Trader Vic's, Inc.
2 Fifer Avenue, Suite 130
Corte Madera, Ca 94925
Tel: 415-927-9788
Fax: 415-927-9688
Email:
trvics@aol.com

Robert L. Davies
President & C.E.O.
Email: robertldavies@yahoo.com



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Swamp Tiki
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From: The Shadowy Moss Draped South
Posted: 2007-01-24 7:33 pm   Permalink

By George, there isn't a state in this Union of States that can rally like Californians once they get stirred up! Organization is the key to success...Get to the Historic Preservation Commission meetings. If a building of historic value is to be demolished it should come up as a topic at these meetings. Depending on who is involved it could be slipped through under the radar...be diligent. Check for verification of historic district boundaries in the area. The Beverly Hilton and Trader Vic's, if not in a nationally recognized district, could be designated as historic landmarks. If so, then they'll show up in the preservation database. Oh yea, inquire when the last historic resource survey was conducted in that part of the county.

As for the Eniss Print, how do I get one? I'm supposedly related to F L. Wright.... Anyway, keep up the progress. The California Preservation Office will work with you. Get them involved. I will try get to up with you all on-line on Saturday. I'm EST and have to meet with a building contractor that evening.

Sure would like to be out there is person, though.

Hang Loose,
Swamp


 
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Son-of-Kelbo
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From: NOHO, CA
Posted: 2007-01-24 9:06 pm   Permalink

Fantastic information and valuable proto-strategy...!

Shall we nail down details, e.g., who's contacting (or has contacted) Who, how many letters, emails, etc. of what kind should be sent to What Recipients, this Friday at Velocity (in person and online)...? It could be helpful to open a mailbox somewhere (or a "special" thread here?) to steadily gather reports and documentation of the campaign's advancement.

This might be useful in cases where too many inquiries may possibly be counterproductive (like to TV's Corporate, perhaps?), and in other cases where we'll need lots and lots (and lots) of emails/letters/autographed coconuts, etc, to the politicos and the media.

Looking forward to polishin' me shilelagh, er, 'la'au palau', and ready to badger the s**t out of those who would destroy our own Trader Vic's for no better reason than to line their pockets building a tower of empty rooms. Grrrrrr.

But coordination is key, and our war canoe should be navigated with wise anger.

Cheers and aloha,
SOK
www.yoyoisland.com




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That once there was a Spot,
Where Blowfish all wore sunglasses,
and Tiki-times were hot..."
SOK



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VampiressRN
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Posted: 2007-01-24 10:08 pm   Permalink

Excellent letter templates. I will send some too. I think the "historic" angle is going to be the best bet. It is less personal and more preservation oriented. Great thread!! Keep the info coming, so we can all help out.
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