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San Diego/Temecula Chop - May 19, 2007
4WDtiki
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From: Omao, Kauai
Posted: 2007-03-20 2:56 pm   Permalink

The next in a series of chops!

When: Saturday, April 7.

Where: 4WDtiki's house in Oceanside, CA. Email for address if you don't already know.

One day only this time, sorry kids. Although we can hang out on the patio all night...

I have NO MORE wood to offer up, so you're on your own.

More details as they develop!


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Clysdalle
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Posted: 2007-03-20 3:07 pm   Permalink

no more wood.....boooooooooooooooooo


you stingy bastid! woohoo, now that I have a date to plan for life is good!! so far Tikidav has offered a slip cast demo...what else should we do? Maybe a time laps video of carving? hmmmmmm....
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4WDtiki
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Posted: 2007-03-20 3:11 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-03-20 15:07, Clysdalle wrote:
...what else should we do? Maybe a time laps video of carving? hmmmmmm....


A live webcast would be cool...


 
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Clysdalle
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Posted: 2007-03-20 3:28 pm   Permalink

like those other um, sites.......tikiteens.com or maybe biglogs.com


ok....stopping now.

I'll be out back stealing a log from you house tonight....
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Tiki-Kate
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From: Yucaipa, CA
Posted: 2007-03-20 6:58 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-03-20 14:56, 4WDtiki wrote:

I have NO MORE wood to offer up, so you're on your own.




Can someone give a lesson on wood sourcing? I'll be out of logs in a few months.
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4WDtiki
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Posted: 2007-03-20 7:05 pm   Permalink

I can share my sourcing skillz at the chop. Maybe we all can...

 
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Clysdalle
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Posted: 2007-03-20 7:24 pm   Permalink

buzzy has a stack close by if we need to make a run on friday night Bill.....let me know..
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Bowana
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From: La Mesa, CA
Posted: 2007-03-20 8:15 pm   Permalink

I , myself would like to learn more about the care and feeding of palm wood.

Seriously! How do you tell whether you've got a good log or not? How can you tell whether it's rotting inside or if there's some bad crackage going on? How long does a log need to dry out before carving? We need a tree guy to give a talk.

Buzzmeister, are you out there?
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Bay Park Buzzy
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Posted: 2007-03-21 01:04 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2007-03-20 20:15, Tikidav wrote:
I , myself would like to learn more about the care and feeding of palm wood.
Buzzmeister, are you out there?



You having log problems Dave? I do not even know where to begin...
The farther down the tree you go, the better the log usually is. Older and taller trees work the best, but you usually have to take what you can get because the problems often will not appear for a few weeks. I can kind of tell just by looking at a log how well it will carve. That just comes from seeing a lot of logs and learning from the way the log is composed. (Unfortunately, learned the hard way in most cases)Look at the ends: No cracks at all are best. Cracked ends usually mean they will crack all the way through. I usually strip my logs and wait a couple months to see if they crack, then decide how to carve around the logs problem areas.
We'll talk more when i see you guys...
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Cammo
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From: San Diego
Posted: 2007-03-21 03:44 am   Permalink

Got a really nice big dry log, few cracks, left over from the Oki Oki. I've stripped the husk off right to the good wood. But I wanna chainsaw it twice down its length to make two masks and one standing, flat-backed tiki.

Is the very center wood carveable?

Waste not, want not.

Hey, a simple idea for a demo would be trying different stains and stain techniques (thin them down, apply with rag or brush, etc) milk-paint washes, and poly & spar varnish to palm wood. A short chunk of wood with stain stripes would be cool to have, or a little box of chips stained different colors as reference. I could bring all the stains I got, anyway, which ain't much. Hey Kate I have some nice natural green stain, you were talking about making a Tiki green a while ago.

By the way, I've been using Ace Hardware brand stains and spar varnish, which work great and seem way cheaper than Minwax. We could all bring some cans of stain and compare colors.

Been keeping Buzzy hours. Time for bed.

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Bowana
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Posted: 2007-03-21 07:12 am   Permalink

Yeah, I have been having log problems! Mostly with rot. Thanks for the info, Buzzy.

I like Cammo's idea concerning staining techniques. Does this mean you've volunteered yourself to do a demo, Cam?
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Cammo
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From: San Diego
Posted: 2007-03-21 09:30 am   Permalink

I'll just bring what I have;

Poly Gloss
Spar Gloss
and
"Salem Green" water based stain
"Dark Walnut" oil based
"Red Mahogany" oil based
and I'm thinking of getting some
"Cherry" and
"Jacobean" - which looks real antique-ish.

Plus I have the stain handout sheet that Ace gives you, with examples. And I'll bring some oil based Frazee Arro-Plate white, which can be thinned down to give a transparent white look. That stuff is used to coat battleships.

And I just gave my Uncle Hairy guy three coats of Spar, and nailed a sand dollar to his forehead for good luck. He's looking OK now, he'll come for the party.

If people could bring a small can or two of different stains, we could do some tests.

Lastly, if Aaron shows up he is the master of this stain stuff. That guy is a main stain artiste. He could do a great demo.


 
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mieko
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From: San Diego
Posted: 2007-03-21 2:44 pm   Permalink

I've been spending a LOT of time on finishing lately, so I'd love to talk stains and topcoats. I checked out a class at rockler a few weeks ago and got some tricks, so I can share those with the group. I'll bring what I've got. If it'll all fit in the car....

I'll be interested in seeing Cam's photos as well, I can bring my laptop so we can scroll through them, or I can bring a projector and a screen if we want to wait till dark and do a big slide show, if people are interested/can stay late.

Slipcasting sounds great too.

And problem palm wood would be great too.


 
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4WDtiki
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From: Omao, Kauai
Posted: 2007-03-21 2:58 pm   Permalink

Damn, I love this group!!! Creative synergy!
So, we have as possible demos/discussions: slipcasting, wood sourcing, good/bad carving wood, stains and sealers, Cam's vacation slideshow...
We may not have time to chop!


 
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Tiki-Kate
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From: Yucaipa, CA
Posted: 2007-03-21 7:17 pm   Permalink

Cammo,

A stain demo sounds like a great idea. I'll bring the few that I own. I've been shopping for blue stain for my Shag tikis. The Behr stain that I had bought definitely will not work on those two, but it was absolutely perfect for my Island Systems & Design tiki who I named Big Blue.

Have a safe journey. Can't wait to see your pictures.


 
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