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Unga Bunga
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From: CaliTikifornia
Posted: 2007-08-07 11:06 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-08-07 22:48, sushiman wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-08-07 22:39, Unga Bunga wrote:
Hey Sushiman!
What a dumb fuck way to red flag yourself.
Wake Up!



What on earth are you on about ?


In English, this is the wrong place for illegal activity.

FUCK OFF!


 
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Haole'akamai
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From: The Polynesian Port of NOLA
Posted: 2007-08-07 11:27 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-08-07 21:55, JenTiki wrote:
I think if you read the right parts of the documentation, you'll see that the checkmarks indicate allowable exceptions to the law that prohibits providing alcohol to a minor. Therefore, religious observance and having alcohol provided by a parent are exceptions to the "no alcohol for minors" law. So it should be okay.



Oops - I meant to indicate for California there are no exceptions. For Hawaii, yes, it looks like there are exceptions.

Anyone in HI want to weigh in on what the local law is enforcing?



[ This Message was edited by: Haole'akamai 2007-08-07 23:29 ]


 
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The Gnomon
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Posted: 2007-08-08 07:44 am   Permalink

You might find this map to be of interest.

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Haole'akamai
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From: The Polynesian Port of NOLA
Posted: 2007-08-08 10:02 am   Permalink

Yep, the website's page on Hawaii (click to HI on the drop down menu) does seem to answer it. Your daughter can drink in a private location with her parent's or guardian's supervision, but the underage girl cannot have more than a .02 b.a.c. if tested. And fake IDs are prohibited, irregardless.

It would seem to indicate you will have to leave your daughter out of the tastings when you head out.





[ This Message was edited by: Haole'akamai 2007-08-08 10:05 ]


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ootwoods
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Posted: 2007-08-08 10:21 am   Permalink

You can also pretty much assume they won't card, and won't ask, at hotel bars and such, and not worry about it.

A family is not usually an issue, whereas a gaggle of spring breakers of about the right age usually is.

Use your judgement, use caution, and be prepared to put up with the legal ramifications if you get caught.

If worse comes to worse, get drinks in the hotel bar and head back to the room. At that point, it's _HIGHLY_ unlikely anyone will say anything, or care.



 
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sushiman
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From: Kumamoto , Japan
Posted: 2007-08-08 4:22 pm   Permalink

Once again thanks to the folks who have provided helpful info and didn't castigate me for starting this thread in the first place .

Mika is not too concerned about whether or not she can enjoy a tropical alcoholic drink at Don The Beachcomber's or wherever in Hawaii . All she said was that she would like to try something like a Mai Tai once when we go out for dinner or sit at the hotel bar . It's not an issue that is preying on her mind , as she rarely drinks alcohol .

Arigato !

Sushi


 
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hiltiki
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Posted: 2007-08-08 7:32 pm   Permalink

you are welcome.

 
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Mo-Eye
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Posted: 2007-08-08 11:30 pm   Permalink

Aloha,

I can throw in my two cents...

Not sure exactly how the Big Island is, but here on Oahu, every place is very strict. If you are in a tourist area, you will be carded if you look under 30. Many late night spots card everyone, no exception. I had a 40+ year old friend who couldn't get into a bar because he didn't have his ID on him.

Whatever you do, don't go the fake ID route. Way too many possible problems! I hang out at Duke's in Waikiki a lot. There, if a bartender/server is caught serving a minor, or accepting a fake id, he looses his job on the spot, no questions asked. I've seen it happen too many times. Also, if the bar wants to be difficult, they can just call the cops, and then your problems are much worse! At Duke's, to eliminate any chance of serving a minor, they (and some other places) have gone to the one drink per person rule. Every person must be present at time of purchase and each can only get one drink at a time, so its difficult to even try to buy one for someone else.

The Liquor Control Board is also pretty strict. I was just at the Shack in Hawaii Kai last night(more of a local place than tourist), and the LBC came in and did a sweep for under age drinkers.

On a slightly similar note, I know the Big Island is cracking down hard on DUI's, and they have been doing a lot of the late night checkpoints.
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sushiman
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From: Kumamoto , Japan
Posted: 2007-08-09 04:17 am   Permalink

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On 2007-08-08 23:30, Mo-Eye wrote:
Aloha,

Not sure exactly how the Big Island is, but here on Oahu, every place is very strict. If you are in a tourist area, you will be carded if you look under 30. Many late night spots card everyone, no exception. I had a 40+ year old friend who couldn't get into a bar because he didn't have his ID on him.



Hehe...I got proofed the last time I was in MA and NY - a couple of years ago - and I was 40+ ! Wacky Amerikay !


 
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The Gnomon
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Posted: 2007-08-09 12:42 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-08-08 10:02, Haole'akamai wrote:
Your daughter can drink in a private location with her parent's or guardian's supervision, but the underage girl cannot have more than a .02 b.a.c. if tested.
...
It would seem to indicate you will have to leave your daughter out of the tastings when you head out.
[ This Message was edited by: Haole'akamai 2007-08-08 10:05 ]



The BAC level applies to the operation of motor vehicles by persons under 21. Not pedestrians/passengers. She can get crocked. She just can't drive with booze on her breath.

The private location is the main thing. Can't be a public establishment unless possibly, I guess, it's in a private party/reception (e.g., a banquet room at a hotel). Probably not though. Otherwise, hotels would be known for hosting lots of father/son beer chugging festivals. I haven't heard of any lately.

The way I read it, Soosh, she can join you when you're in your hotel room or out visiting friends at their homes but not when you are at a restaurant.




 
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Haole'akamai
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From: The Polynesian Port of NOLA
Posted: 2007-08-09 1:49 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-08-09 12:42, The Gnomon wrote:



The BAC level applies to the operation of motor vehicles by persons under 21. Not pedestrians/passengers. She can get crocked. She just can't drive with booze on her breath.








Not true. BAC can be used in Public Intoxication cases, as well.
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Haole Kat
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From: St Petersburg, FL
Posted: 2007-08-09 3:46 pm   Permalink

Holy shit, talk about stupid.

BTW - anyone know where I can get some good weed?


 
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sushiman
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Posted: 2007-08-09 4:32 pm   Permalink

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On 2007-08-09 15:46, Haole Kat wrote:
Holy shit, talk about stupid.

BTW - anyone know where I can get some good weed?



Yea , I know some illegals down in St. Pete who have some A grade smoke man . Let me know .


 
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sushiman
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Posted: 2007-08-09 4:33 pm   Permalink

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The Gnomon
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From: MD-DC-VA
Posted: 2007-08-10 09:37 am   Permalink

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On 2007-08-09 13:49, Haole'akamai wrote:

Not true. BAC can be used in Public Intoxication cases, as well.



I was basing my assessment on:

  • Underage Consumption of Alcohol
    Consumption is not explicitly prohibited, and

  • Blood Alcohol Concentration Limits:
    Youth (Underage Operators of Noncommercial Motor Vehicles) BAC limit:

    0.02 a BAC level at or above the limit is per se (conclusive) evidence of a violation.
    Applies to drivers under age 21

Although I guess it doesn't apply to underage operators of Commercial motor vehicles


 
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