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Is the Hawaiiana Hotel threatend?
christiki295
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From: LA-2547 mls east Hawaii &5500 Easter Is
Posted: 2007-11-25 8:53 pm   Permalink

Thanks to Filslash, I have seen the various tikis at the Hawaiiana and its neighboring properties, which abut an enormous tower under construction which is owned and developed by Donald Trump. I wonder if the Hawaiiana and the other places are doomed based on the land value and the fact the property could be generating so much more income. They do appear to be an anachronism as almost every other hotel is a tower.
Such would be a shame, but maybe the real joy is that they have lasted for so long.

This seems all the moreso based upon the consolidation of ownership of realty in large organizations.


 
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alohacurrent
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Posted: 2007-11-26 08:56 am   Permalink

It would be another huge blow if the Hawaiiana disappears. On the other hand I wonder how much longer it can last. Redevelopment pressure in Waikiki is intense and standing directly in the shadow of the trump tower development are several artifacts of old Waikiki I would prefer weren't lost. But when Chuck's steakhouse disappeared to make room for ol trumpy I felt for sure the future was written for Saratoga and Beach Walk roads. The Hawaiiana I believe is quite successful as a business, but the value of that real estate is beyond belief. Hope I'm wrong, but took lots of pictures of Hawaiiana and its tikis last time there. I'll probably end up photodocumenting the whole area all the way up to Kalakaua.

 
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christiki295
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Posted: 2007-11-26 6:43 pm   Permalink

There will still be ocean views over the park, looking towards the Hilton Village, so it is an attractive property.

Is there any historic preservation in Waikiki? The evidence suggests otherwise, but maybe this last and best remaining might stir the local govenment?


 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2007-11-27 11:46 am   Permalink

It would be a terrible shame to lose this:





And this...





And this...





But mostly it would be a shame to lose people like this...



Like all things, it will be gone someday. But let's hope it's later rather than sooner.


 
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christiki295
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Posted: 2007-11-27 7:33 pm   Permalink

I met the Front Desk person.
She really is a doll.


 
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tedtiki
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Posted: 2007-11-28 09:04 am   Permalink

Ahh..sweet memories. That's where I spent my honeymoon. It would be terrible to see it torn down to make way for condos.

 
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54 house of bamboo
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Posted: 2007-11-28 10:06 am   Permalink

A favourite of ours too ... Fond, fond memories.

 
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christiki295
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Posted: 2009-04-10 4:00 pm   Permalink

Is the Hawaiiana Hotel still in existence?

I know it was up for sale:

Friday, September 14, 2007
Hawaiiana Hotel parcel up for sale
Pacific Business News (Honolulu) - by Janis L. Magin Pacific Business News

The owner of a fee-simple piece of land under part of a small, budget hotel in Waikiki has put the lot up for sale, which puts into play another piece of real estate in an area that has been undergoing extensive redevelopment.

The 11,956-square-foot parcel beneath the Hawaiiana Hotel is on Saratoga Road, and holds two of the hotel's five buildings and a swimming pool. The asking price is $3.65 million.

It's in the middle of a block bounded by Kalakaua Avenue, Beach Walk, Kalia Road and Saratoga Road that is home to a shrinking number of budget hotels surrounded by redevelopment.

Trump International Hotel & Tower lies at the Kalia Road end, and the 2113 Kalakaua retail project is planned for the other end of the block. The parcels on the block are owned by 12 different entities.

It's also adjacent to land earmarked for First Round Pacific's two-story retail complex that will include the Hard Rock Cafe and little more than a block away from Outrigger Enterprises' $535 million Waikiki Beach Walk, which opened earlier this year.

Paul Bonanno, a broker with Net Leased Real Properties in San Diego, represents the landowner, the Nancy S. Walter Trust.

He said the small parcel, directly across the street from Fort DeRussy Park, has great potential.

"I think absolutely at some point it's going to be redeveloped," Bonanno said. "Whether that happens before or after the lease expires is up to the current tenant, and the current tenant is Hawaiiana Hotel."

But redevelopment is unlikely to happen soon.

Hawaiiana Hotel owner Jun Kang said he has no intention in the near future of moving or redeveloping the two-story, 93-room hotel, which opened in 1955. The hotel, whose other three buildings and another pool are on a separate parcel of leased land at 260 Beach Walk, has a lease on the property until 2028.

"We're going to be trying to develop a high rise in the future, but not that high," Kang said. "I want to just keep the same Hawaiiana style."

The same goes for his next-door hotel neighbor, The Breakers, which has been there since 1954, and for another small hotel along Saratoga Road, whose owner declined to comment.

Genshitsu Sen, the former grand master of the Urasenke tradition of tea who lives in Japan, owns the land beneath The Breakers as well as several other parcels that are leased to moped and car rental agencies. Sen, 84, is happy with things the way they are, said Ethel Nada, the hotel's manager.

Bonanno said more land on that block may change hands as generations change and new projects like the Trump tower inflate the value of adjoining land.

"With the value of the land there, I don't think the current rents being paid along that strip make sense compared to the equity that's there," Bonanno said. "With our dollar being down, it's bringing a lot of Pacific Rim capital into the area."

Jay Shidler, whose Shidler Group last year bought the ANA Building at the Diamond Head corner of Kalakaua and Beach Walk, also owns a small parcel of land with a partner on Saratoga Road, as well as a leasehold building on Kalakaua.

The problem with redeveloping an area like the Hawaiiana block is that it is difficult to assemble the parcels, a process that can take years, even decades. Developers have to either buy out long-term tenants or wait for their leases to expire.



 
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naugatiki
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Posted: 2009-11-03 05:21 am   Permalink

If the redevelopment won't get, it the economy will.

http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20091103_Waikiki_hotel_could_face_closure.html



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croe67
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Posted: 2009-11-03 05:37 am   Permalink

Sad

A few of the pictures I took last time I was there.....










 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2009-11-03 09:37 am   Permalink

The Hawaiiana was a small patch of Aloha in the middle of the soul-less concrete tourist jungle that surrounds it. I mourn its closing and my heart goes out to those people who worked there for so many years and gave the place such charm.

Jeez, the Hawaiian Hut closes, Annette Nahinu passes away (but thankfully La Mariana lives on) and now this.


 
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2009-11-03 11:51 am   Permalink

...but I am confused by the headline still saying it COULD face foreclosure? From what I can gather from the article, it is PAU, Kaputt, AUS, ...no!?

This is especially tragic after such a hope-inducing article was written two years earlier. The only good thing about this f&#%d economy was that it stalled over-development...


 
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Kane Tiki
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Posted: 2009-11-03 3:23 pm   Permalink

Oh crud... We'd booked there for 6 nights from December 30. Luckily and hopefully I've found this out 2 months out rather than a couple of weeks otherwise I'd be seriously freaking out about finding alternative accomodation. I guess I'll try the Breakers. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 
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Phillip Roberts
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Posted: 2009-11-03 3:36 pm   Permalink

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20091103/BREAKING01/91103041/Hawaiiana+Hotel+operations+being+phased+out+this+week

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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2009-11-03 5:23 pm   Permalink

So in 2007 the parcel was up for sale...but the lease lasts til 2028, and the hotel owner said then:

>>Hawaiiana Hotel owner Jun Kang said he has no intention in the near future of moving or redeveloping the two-story, 93-room hotel, which opened in 1955. The hotel, whose other three buildings and another pool are on a separate parcel of leased land at 260 Beach Walk, has a lease on the property until 2028.
"We're going to be trying to develop a high rise in the future, but not that high," Kang said. "I want to just keep the same Hawaiiana style."<<

So is this the high rise plan going into action, or did Kang loose all his money in the bank bust, and thus changed his mind...
This unceremonious shut down reeks of developer's sheenanigans.


 
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