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Why Disneyland Sucks
King Bushwich the 33rd
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From: Ling Cod Beach, CA 90803
Posted: 2012-12-23 2:08 pm   Permalink

Before reading this thread, I was listening to a podcast which had an interview with Disneyland Imagineering legend Bob Gurr and he was talking about designing and building the Viewliner train in the late 50's. He mentioned how it would be difficult to make this type of attraction now because of the financial redtape and bureaucracy within the Disney Company

Communicore Weekly podcast: Bob Gurr interview

(Yes, the host are kind of silly but, hey, this is a podcast about Disneyland, not "This Week in Wall Street").

Many of the negative changes in Disneyland are both from internal and external sources. Some of the various safety modifications were mandated by the State of California. And some were because one person did something stupid so we all have to suffer and pay for it. Similar to plane travel and the fact that one a**hole tried to blow up a plane with his shoe, so we all have to take off our shoes before boarding a plane.



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Cammo
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From: San Diego
Posted: 2012-12-26 07:18 am   Permalink

"Besides, Disney is a publicly owned corporation with the responsibility to provide an increasing return on investment to its shareholders."

I don't agree. Walt was planning much more long term; and selling that idea to investors isn't such a hard pitch. Clearly Walt designed the parks as a public relations showcase for his company, in today's terms a loss leader that utilizes the synergy of the Disney company to provide a lasting, many-generation positive image for the company. It's like charging somebody to watch a commercial. Clearly it's the rest of the Disney company that is faltering, relying on the steady park system now to generate cash instead of the other way around.

Not good business sense, not good marketing, bad long term goals. It's becoming more carny-like every day.


 
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Cammo
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From: San Diego
Posted: 2012-12-28 07:23 am   Permalink

Well, while Disneyland has been apparently achieving ugly sister status here on the west coast, Disney World has been busy doing exactly everything I've been suggesting they do right from the start, including less expensive multi-generational hotel rooms, new updates that actually improve the wait in line, and giant new restaurants that look pretty fun and take advantage of 21st century ordering technology. I don't see any Pixar or Lucas crap, it's all Disney all day every day! They're doing everything right over there!

Disneyland sucks, but Disney World in Florida seemingly doesn't!

Read about their Brand New Fantasyland here in the New York Times:

http://travel.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/travel/inside-disneys-new-fantasyland.html?_r=0


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