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thejab
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From: Forbidden Island, CA
|  Posted: 2008-04-14 1:44 pm Permalink
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On 2008-02-02 13:30, MrBaliHai wrote:
The Bum insists upon white grapefruit, as he claims the pink and red are too sweet, but I've used the red in Don's mix #2 as well, and it doesn't seem to make a tremendous amount of difference unless you're using a pre-made cinnamon syrup that's very sweet to begin with.
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I didn't know there was a difference between pink and white. I bet there is more of a difference between fresh, not-from-concentrate, and from concentrate juices, than there is between pink and white. And there is probably a huge difference in taste between brands. I use Tropicana Pure Premium Ruby Red not-from-concentrate since Kick-The-Reverb recommended it here. A look on Tropicana's web site shows they make the same in gold but the web's search engine turned up no chain grocery stores that carry it where I live. They say the golden is pulp free whereas the red isn't, so I would think that the gold would be better for drinks (or one could strain the pulp out of the red stuff).
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TikiSan
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Joined: Sep 29, 2003
Posts: 246
From: O.C., SoCal
| Posted: 2008-04-16 11:12 pm Permalink
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On 2008-04-14 13:44, thejab wrote:
I bet there is more of a difference between fresh, not-from-concentrate, and from concentrate juices, than there is between pink and white. And there is probably a huge difference in taste between brands. I use Tropicana Pure Premium Ruby Red not-from-concentrate since Kick-The-Reverb recommended it here. A look on Tropicana's web site shows they make the same in gold but the web's search engine turned up no chain grocery stores that carry it where I live. They say the golden is pulp free whereas the red isn't, so I would think that the gold would be better for drinks (or one could strain the pulp out of the red stuff).
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Jab, I agree. I bought some Ocean Spray White Grapefruit 100% Juice (it was inexpensive) that was from concentrate to give it a try, and it has an overpowering, lifeless, "from concentrate" taste that makes it unusable. The taste is almost completely removed from fresh squeezed grapefruit juice.
I've found fresh squeezed red or the Tropicana like Kick-The-Reverb uses to be good substitutes.
I've found fresh squeezed white grapefruit to be spicier and tangier than red. It really adds depth and complexity that makes the drink.
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Melintur
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From: Portland, OR
| Posted: 2008-04-17 08:30 am Permalink
Here's another recommendation for fresh squeezed white. Here in Portland we've been getting these gorgeous Oroblanco varietal grapefruit and they are heaven (white gold, indeed). Spicy and bright with a deep tart flavor, they almost resemble a Pomelo. I'm guessing they are closer to a Pomelo anyway; the flavor and morphology are very similar.
Speaking of that, Pomelo is a great substitution for grapefruit (grapefruit are hybrids: pomelo X orange). The spicy citrus marries with the agricole and industriale rums like a freakin' champ. Ceylon Cinnamon also marries extremely well. Honey, Pomelo, cinnamon, and a Martinique? Heaven!
Try this one out if you get the chance:
Gannt Daquiri
1/2 oz Fresh Pomelo Juice (sub fresh white grapefruit)
1/4 oz honey
1/4 oz cinnamon infused syrup
2 oz aged Rhum Martinique (St James, Clement, etc.)
Shake with cracked ice and strain into chilled 4-oz cocktail glass.
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TikiSan
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Joined: Sep 29, 2003
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From: O.C., SoCal
| Posted: 2011-08-04 12:04 am Permalink
Has anybody seen fresh white grapefruit lately?
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jingleheimerschmidt
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Joined: Apr 20, 2007
Posts: 328
From: santa rosa, calif.
| Posted: 2011-08-04 08:18 am Permalink
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On 2011-08-04 00:04, TikiSan wrote:
Has anybody seen fresh white grapefruit lately?
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Fresh white only shows up during late spring up here. I never see it in the stores - only on neighbors trees.
Sorry, that wasn't much help. Some of the fancy pants stores will carry unsweetened white grapefruit juice. Not as good as fresh but still better than ruby/red grapefruit in cocktails.
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Limbo Lizard
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Joined: Aug 24, 2006
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From: Aboard the 'Leaky Tiki', Dallas
| Posted: 2011-08-04 10:57 am Permalink
Yes, fresh is best, but who wants to only drink Zombies "in season"? I buy the white grapefruit frozen concentrate, and mix up a couple ounces at a time: ½ oz. concentrate to 1½ oz. water. Keep the container sealed in the freezer with a baggie and a rubber band, so it doesn't pick up any other "exotic" flavors.
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hiltiki
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Joined: Jun 10, 2004
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From: Reseda, calif.
| Posted: 2011-08-04 12:19 pm Permalink
I still have some on my grapefruit tree. 
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djmont
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Joined: Aug 03, 2011
Posts: 75
From: Potomac Falls, VA
| Posted: 2011-08-04 12:51 pm Permalink
I checked at the grocery store today and they only had White Grapefruit Juice (from concentrate) in the big plastic bottles. The only fresh (Tropicana, not from concentrate) was Ruby Red. Also, the only small bottles of juice (6-packs) they had were Ruby Red.
On the plus side, I did get some frozen Goya Passion Fruit Puree.
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jingleheimerschmidt
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Joined: Apr 20, 2007
Posts: 328
From: santa rosa, calif.
| Posted: 2011-08-04 1:18 pm Permalink
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On 2011-08-04 12:19, hiltiki wrote:
I still have some on my grapefruit tree.
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be right over...
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CincyTikiCraig
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Joined: Mar 31, 2009
Posts: 328
From: Cincinnati, Ohio USA
| Posted: 2011-08-05 8:30 pm Permalink
I can get fresh white grapefruit here in Cincinnati about 8 month out of the year. Unfortunately I can't get them this time of year. Right now I'm using Ocean Spray White Grapefruit Juice and spiking it with a little bit of fresh squeezed whatever variety I can find (hopefully pink, ruby red if it's all that's around) to add a bit of freshness and zing to the bottled juice.
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thePorpoise
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Joined: Jan 23, 2011
Posts: 701
From: Tampa Bay
| Posted: 2011-08-06 12:02 pm Permalink
I made some Donn's Mix # 7 last nite using white grapefruit juice. will try out in a zombie tonight. Frankly though, i don't see how white v. pink/red is going to make any noticeable difference in any tiki drink i can think of other than the reverb crash. but i'd better try it in a zombie, just to be sure...
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