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Got my St. Elizabeth Allspice (Pimento)
I-Tiki
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Joined: Jun 25, 2004
Posts: 49
From: Falls Church, VA
Posted: 2008-03-10 11:07 am   Permalink

Picked up a bottle of the St. Elizabeth Allspice Dram for my Birthday Friday. Man that stuff is good. Unfortunately it also carries a $38 price tag. ouch. If you can afford it, you won't be dissapointed in the quality or flavor.

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Koolau
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Joined: Sep 23, 2006
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From: Oahu, Hawaii
Posted: 2008-03-11 11:52 pm   Permalink

Have you previously made your own Pimento Dram? If so, how does home-made compare to the Made-in-Jamaica stuff?

 
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leisure master
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Joined: Mar 24, 2007
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From: The exotic village, NYC
Posted: 2008-03-12 08:54 am   Permalink

I picked up a bottle here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Little better on the price but still steep - around $24.

It compares with the Berry Hill and could substitute in a pinch, but its not as strong and is lacking the other spices of the Berry Hill (and the Berry Hill is a lot cheaper if you can get it).


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paranoid123
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Joined: Dec 13, 2002
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From: New York City
Posted: 2008-03-12 7:59 pm   Permalink

Leisure Master,

Where in NYC did you find it? I've been keeping my eye out, but haven't spotted it.



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van Oosten
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Joined: Aug 08, 2007
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From: Batavia
Posted: 2008-03-13 05:49 am   Permalink

Here's what I found online:

Shopper's Vinyard (Clifton NJ) has the 750ml size for $27.99, does mail order. Nice price right now on the Kubler Absinthe at ~$40.

In NYC, Crush Wine and Astor both have the 375ml at $23.99.

If comparing to other Dram, it may be more helpful to compare to home production/recipes and older/historic bottles of the Jamaican pimento dram. The Berry Hill has a strong molasses that seems be unique to the newer productions of Berry Hill. The spirit base is also different.


 
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leisure master
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Joined: Mar 24, 2007
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From: The exotic village, NYC
Posted: 2008-03-13 06:25 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2008-03-12 19:59, paranoid123 wrote:
Where in NYC did you find it? I've been keeping my eye out, but haven't spotted it.


Paranoid - van oosten has it right - I got it at Astor (Lafayette & E3rd I think) for about $24 bucks. Its pretty good, but a small bottle for the price. You may want to check out that deal in NJ or contact Reggae Treats to see if you can get some Berry Hill for half the price.

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van Oosten
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From: Batavia
Posted: 2008-03-13 10:45 am   Permalink

Leisure Master - if you know how to get Reggae Treats to sell the Berry Hill at half price, do let us all know! They've got some rums I can't get in my lousy home market.

The best price I could get with Reggae Treats was with three bottles and shipping by sea, came to $34.50/bottle ($28.50 + $18/3 bottles shipping). The Shopper's Vinyard 750ml came to $33.99/btl ($27.99 + $18/3 bottles shipping).


 
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leisure master
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Joined: Mar 24, 2007
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From: The exotic village, NYC
Posted: 2008-03-13 10:54 am   Permalink

van Oosten - whoa, I agree with you!

Its been a while since I ordered pimento (I bought 4 bottles almost a year ago) and they have really raised the price! I do like it a lot, but $28.50 is pretty steep, especially before shipping. I think I paid like $14 per bottle last year (like $20 each with shipping).

Sorry for the outdated info.

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tiki leki
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Joined: Jul 02, 2006
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From: Point Loma
Posted: 2008-03-20 08:00 am   Permalink

Hi, Just picked up a bottle of St. Elizabeth, Wow a little goes along way. I added an 1/8 of a tsp. to a Bai Hai Mai Tai, and it was tasty and different. I've got all of Beachbum Berry's books, and found four or so recipes calling for Pimento in them. Anybody have any more, or is it kind of like experimenting by adding a little here and a little their to existing cocktails..Thanks for the help.

 
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Little fragrant Tiare
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Joined: Oct 12, 2007
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Posted: 2008-03-26 12:07 pm   Permalink

I really look forward to when i`ll get a bottle of this!
According to Eric, St Elizabeth uses a very high grade Jamaican Allspice that is only from Jamaica and an old-fashioned, high ester Jamaican pot-still rum. The cane sugar is from Europe and also the water.


 
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sneakyjack
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Joined: May 25, 2004
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From: NYC Area
Posted: 2008-04-08 8:51 pm   Permalink

I picked some St elizabeth dram Allspice ($24) up today at Morell in NYC in rockfeller center (ONE rockfeller PLaza) they have velvet falernum ($17) en route too! this week.

you can buy from their website too.

falernum:
http://morrellwine.com/search.php?cat=wine&textfield=falernum&GO=%3E

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bewarethe151
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Joined: Feb 26, 2008
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From: Los Angeles, CA
Posted: 2008-04-09 12:43 pm   Permalink

Hi, Sneaky J, was that 750ml or 375ml on the St. Elizabeth? Thanks!

 
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van Oosten
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From: Batavia
Posted: 2008-04-10 7:32 pm   Permalink

Morrell has the 375ml Allspice. More of the 750ml will arrive in mid-May. So if you like it, you'll probably have to ask your store to order in the larger bottle (as most retail likes the half-bottle to start).

 
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hiwattowner
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Joined: Apr 06, 2008
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From: Near Boston, MA
Posted: 2008-04-11 04:44 am   Permalink

For folks in the Boston area, I just ordered a half bottle of the St. Elizabeths from Cambridge Wine & Spirits next to the Whole Foods in Fresh Pond. They may be a source for others in the area too. They said the distributor didn't yet have access to the full bottles.

 
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hiwattowner
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From: Near Boston, MA
Posted: 2008-04-16 2:22 pm   Permalink

Again for those in the Boston area, I just picked up a full bottle of the St. Elizabeth's at Marty's Fine Wines in Newton (next to the Newton Whole Foods). They had a few bottles on the shelf at $35.

 
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