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Got my St. Elizabeth Allspice (Pimento)
thePorpoise
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Posted: 2011-05-29 5:45 pm   Permalink

yup, that's a tasty formula, i compared recipes here, think i'll update that thread with my st elizabeth tastings.

I got it at a good price- $17. just didnt taste how i was expecting.

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heylownine
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Posted: 2011-05-30 10:32 am   Permalink

I've had a few bottles of the St. Elizabeth dram, but recently decided to make my own. I found it straightforward to make, but there's no whipping up a batch; the recipe I followed from Beachbum Berry Remixed takes 6 weeks of "aging" all together.

The result was worth the wait. It's a bit more cost-effective than the St. Elizabeth, and just as tasty. Made up an Ancient Mariner, a 3 Dots and a Dash, a Montego Bay, and a homemade Planter's Punch variant so far. The biggest surprise for me was that unlike making my own orgeat, cinnamon, and passion fruit syrups, this one wasn't dramatically better than "store bought". It actually came out quite similar to the St. Elizabeth. Next up: testing in a Trader Vic's Navy Grog.

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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2011-05-30 11:21 pm   Permalink

did you make the rum-based dram, or the water-based ram?

 
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heylownine
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Posted: 2011-05-31 6:14 pm   Permalink

I made mine rum-based; Cruzan specifically.

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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2011-05-31 10:23 pm   Permalink

huh.

you oughta try the Chuck Taggart recipe linked above (uses brown sugar, and Lemon Hart 151)


 
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heylownine
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Posted: 2011-06-01 6:14 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-05-31 22:23, thePorpoise wrote:
huh.

you oughta try the Chuck Taggart recipe linked above (uses brown sugar, and Lemon Hart 151)



I think I'd be more inclined to try that recipe were LH151 not in "constrained supply". 2.5 cups is a lot of Hart Of Darkness and 151 Swizzles!

I've bookmarked it to try sometime, probably when (if?) the new LH151 formulation is on the market. Interestingly, the process isn't much different from the Remixed version...mix all-spice berries with rum, let sit, combine with a simple syrup and let sit again.

I want a Navy Grog now.

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Posted: 2011-06-02 12:04 pm   Permalink

I'm impatient; i made sample sizes of the various homemade recipes (a few ounces of each), didnt age them at all, and compared them in cocktails the same afternoon.

 
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Posted: 2011-07-14 12:49 pm   Permalink

My bottle of home brew Pimento, sent to me lo these many years ago by JTD is now down to the dregs. I ordered the St. Elizabeth as it is sanctioned by Martin Cate.

All these lists are missing my new favorite, Jasper's Jamaican. I first made it ages ago as the recipe calls for it and gave it a 4 ( out of 10 ). At the Rumposium at Hukilau, I was served a version made by the Rum Rat Pack and it was a great drink that I came home craving. After a few attempts, I got the taste as they made it by halfing the lime and pimento and doubling the sugar. Excellent! But pimento depleting.

It is such a simple recipe that it will be the benchmark when the St. Elizabeth arrives early next week. I hope it is good as I got 1.5 liters of it! More next week.
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Posted: 2011-07-14 3:05 pm   Permalink

It is very strong- and sort of astringent.

you will definitely want to reduce portion used from that called for in the drink recipes, imo.


 
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Posted: 2011-07-14 11:10 pm   Permalink

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On 2011-07-14 12:49, Swanky wrote:
All these lists are missing my new favorite, Jasper's Jamaican. I first made it ages ago as the recipe calls for it and gave it a 4 ( out of 10 ). At the Rumposium at Hukilau, I was served a version made by the Rum Rat Pack and it was a great drink that I came home craving. After a few attempts, I got the taste as they made it by halfing the lime and pimento and doubling the sugar. Excellent! But pimento depleting.



checking my bar notes, i did something to similar effect when i made the Jasper's Jamaican-- i doubled the rum!


 
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Posted: 2011-07-16 3:25 pm   Permalink

Jasper's Jamaican is a fine drink. On my favorites list. And if you like St. Elizabeth, give The Bitter Truth Pimento Dram a go as well. It turns the allspice up to "11", so ease it in gently or it will overpower your drink.

 
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heylownine
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Posted: 2011-07-16 5:37 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-07-14 12:49, Swanky wrote:
All these lists are missing my new favorite, Jasper's Jamaican. I first made it ages ago as the recipe calls for it and gave it a 4 ( out of 10 ). At the Rumposium at Hukilau, I was served a version made by the Rum Rat Pack and it was a great drink that I came home craving. After a few attempts, I got the taste as they made it by halfing the lime and pimento and doubling the sugar. Excellent! But pimento depleting.

It is such a simple recipe that it will be the benchmark when the St. Elizabeth arrives early next week. I hope it is good as I got 1.5 liters of it! More next week.




Sounds like I've got some Jasper's Jamaican work to do!

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Posted: 2011-07-21 06:39 am   Permalink

Got the St. Elizabeth and it is indeed a good brew. It is not nearly as strong as the home brew I was using, but that is okay as I had to half it in most recipes... My home brew I had a slight hint of cinnamon.

I like it and the Jasper's recipe with it is the same, except use the full amount of pimento liqueur it calls for. Perfect!
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Posted: 2011-07-22 8:38 pm   Permalink

Finally got to the Jasper's Jamaican tonight (homemade pimento dram)...really excellent indeed. Might try one next with Smith & Cross and see how that bounces off of the allspice.

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