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Are Shag's paintings all a bit different than prints ?
sushiman
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From: Kumamoto , Japan
Posted: 2008-09-08 7:30 pm   Permalink

Gromit Fan ,

I was hoping to hear from an owner of the print ! Thank you so much for all the information !

You and I share similar Shag taste . I'm also interested in The Elegant Thief and the Raft Of The Medusa !

Muchos Mahalos !

S


 
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Gromit_Fan
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From: Portland, OR, USA
Posted: 2008-09-08 7:44 pm   Permalink

Happy to help!

I should have mentioned I bought "The Extraordinary Evening"
directly from Shagmart. I had been waiting for it to be released
ever since it showed up in the book
Shag, LTD. Fine Art Limited Editions: A Catalog Raisonne.

I tend to think of it as "Hostage Exchange" or "Tiki Attack!"



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On 2008-09-08 19:30, sushiman wrote:
Gromit Fan ,

I was hoping to hear from an owner of the print ! Thank you so much for all the information !

You and I share similar Shag taste . I'm also interested in The Elegant Thief and the Raft Of The Medusa !

Muchos Mahalos !

S



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sushiman
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Posted: 2008-09-08 8:06 pm   Permalink

Hehe..." Attack Of The Giant Tiki " perhaps ?

Somebody Shag collector in Oregon just sold both " Evening " and " LA Night " on Ebay . Fetched $ 510 and $ 710 respectively .


 
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Gromit_Fan
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Posted: 2008-09-08 8:54 pm   Permalink

Yep.

That seller is in Salem.
I live in Wilsonville and work in
Portland (with "Tiki Mama" from here).

"LA Modern (Night)" has had its value jump a lot in a short time span.
WHY?
-Companion Piece to "LA Modern (Day)"
(instant demand jump, as folks now consider it two halves of a diptych)
-The two nude dancers add a great bit of humor and implied narrative,
which makes some Shag prints more fun than others.

"Extraordinary Evening" seems like it is the best of Shag's urban culture
being attacked by his tiki culture. I love it!!!

Having said that,
of all the prints I own,
"Glorious Lifestyle" is the one I suspect
will have the greatest jump in value.


Only approximately 24 copies made it out
of Australia (barring artist's proofs),
and it is a HUGE print, 53 inches wide,
the widest single image Shag serigraph,
and the fact that it is a tribute to Blake Edwards' The Party
only helps inflate its appeal...but, sadly, there is
no sign of a tiki in it.

Gromit Fan

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On 2008-09-08 20:06, sushiman wrote:
Hehe..." Attack Of The Giant Tiki " perhaps ?

Somebody Shag collector in Oregon just sold both " Evening " and " LA Night " on Ebay . Fetched $ 510 and $ 710 respectively .




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Gromit_Fan
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Posted: 2008-09-08 9:20 pm   Permalink

The star on the belly is there on the print, just faint:


I left this image of mine big because
a) I don't have Photoshop on my home PC
b) shrinking it with paint caused jpeg distortions and loss of detail.

Last big image for a while!

Enjoy!



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On 2008-09-07 22:54, Hakalugi wrote:
+ Different rugs, different mugs and a star belly in one and not the other.



 
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sushiman
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Posted: 2008-09-08 10:51 pm   Permalink

Gromit ,

Wow ! Thanks for uploading the pics . Fabulous ! I'm about ready to snag An Extraordinary Evening . Seller wants $ 200 for this simple wood ( supposedly handmade by a frame maker ) frame . What do you think ? The odd size of the print is going to make it a little difficult for me to find a reasonably price frame around these parts . I do know a couple of artists in Tokyo though who might be able to help me out .






 
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sushiman
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Posted: 2008-09-08 10:52 pm   Permalink

Only the FRAME is $ 200 . Print is around $ 400 .

 
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sasquatch
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Posted: 2008-09-09 01:19 am   Permalink

A really interesting thread guys.

I've had a reply from Partycrasher who puts together
http://shagwatch.blogspot.com/ (Well worth a look by the way!)and I think he hits the nail on the head as have many posts here, that the original and the serigraph are two separate pieces of art. Shag therefore has the opportunity to make significant re-workings to suit the serigraph printing process and/or things which in hindsight may have not be quite right in the original painting.

This may have been obvious to most, but certainly something I've found out today! Thanks guys...

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sushiman
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Posted: 2008-09-09 04:54 am   Permalink

Gromit ,

You have The Elegant Thief , correct ?

Which does yours resemble color-wise - Shag's artist proof , or the one with more blues in it ( in frame ) ?






 
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Tahitiki
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Posted: 2008-09-09 06:14 am   Permalink

Did anybody noticed that the guy in the middle sitting is also different in both paintings?
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sushiman
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Posted: 2008-09-09 06:17 am   Permalink

To be honest , yes I did notice the darker face , but neglected to mention it . Thanks for the post .

 
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Gromit_Fan
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Posted: 2008-09-09 07:20 am   Permalink

DISCLAIMER:
I am red-green color impaired, so know that.

Mine seems to be somewhere in between the two. Here is an image, but my camera tends to over brightness:


Artist's Proofs used to be pieces where the colors might vary from the final product,
but these days, actual test proofs seem to do that (which are then --or should be-- destroyed)
with the artist's proofs, which average 10% of the total run are simply a way for the artist to have
copies that they can distribute themselves to and allows them to have a certain amount of added profit
for the release of a print if it is a strong seller on the secondary market.

Gromit Fan



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On 2008-09-09 04:54, sushiman wrote:
Gromit ,

You have The Elegant Thief , correct ?

Which does yours resemble color-wise - Shag's artist proof , or the one with more blues in it ( in frame ) ?








 
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Gromit_Fan
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Posted: 2008-09-09 07:25 am   Permalink

That seems like an adjustment to prevent him being lost in the background because the color values were too close.

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On 2008-09-09 06:17, sushiman wrote:
To be honest , yes I did notice the darker face , but neglected to mention it . Thanks for the post .



 
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Gromit_Fan
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Posted: 2008-09-09 07:27 am   Permalink

I tend to prefer simple framing, so I like the example you offered and $200 seems pretty reasonable.\
Just make sure it is conservation framing.



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On 2008-09-08 22:51, sushiman wrote:
Gromit ,

Wow ! Thanks for uploading the pics . Fabulous ! I'm about ready to snag An Extraordinary Evening . Seller wants $ 200 for this simple wood ( supposedly handmade by a frame maker ) frame . What do you think ? The odd size of the print is going to make it a little difficult for me to find a reasonably price frame around these parts . I do know a couple of artists in Tokyo though who might be able to help me out .








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Gromit_Fan
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Posted: 2008-09-09 4:21 pm   Permalink

sasquatch,

Shagwatch is a GREAT blog for Shag fans!

Thanks!

Gromit Fan

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On 2008-09-09 01:19, sasquatch wrote:
A really interesting thread guys.

I've had a reply from Partycrasher who puts together http://shagwatch.blogspot.com/ (Well worth a look by the way!)and I think he hits the nail on the head as have many posts here, that the original and the serigraph are two separate pieces of art. Shag therefore has the opportunity to make significant re-workings to suit the serigraph printing process and/or things which in hindsight may have not be quite right in the original painting.

This may have been obvious to most, but certainly something I've found out today! Thanks guys...

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