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Tiki Restaurants • The Big Ten • Middle of the Night update for DC!
Bora Boris
Mr. Unreasonable

Joined: Mar 25, 2005
Posts: 2573
From: Boogie Wonderland
Posted: 2008-10-16 11:15 pm   Permalink

Obviously we have the Big 3

1. Don The Beachcomber
2. Trader Vic's
3. Steve Crane and Associates (The Luau, Kon Tiki, Kon Tiki Ports, Ports O'Call)

What I'm curious about is which other places had mugs, swizzles and tableware? (Not including salt & pepper shakers)



I have extended the list to the Big 10 which is great but there has to be more ~

4. Aku Aku
5. Kona Kai
6. Mai-Kai
7. Kahiki
8. Pub Tiki
9. The Mauna Loa
10. Ren Clark's Polynesian Village

I'll use the Hawaiian Inn as an example - they had mugs and swizzle’s but did they have dishes?



• Did the Mauna Loa have dishes? Yes, yes they did.
• Did Ren Clark's Polynesian Village have swizzles? Yes, see page 5.
• Did Harvey’s have plates?
• Did the Hawaii Kai have a swizzle? Yes, a wooden one.



Lot’s of questions but I want answers, photographic example answers!

Also I know the Castaways in Miami had plates, swizzles and mugs but I’m not counting that one yet. Oh and please enjoy my bossy tone.

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bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
Posted: 2008-10-17 07:15 am   Permalink

A good question, and I am looking forward to everybody's lists. To ad up the various (preferably logo-Tiki) artifacts that a Tiki place produced is a good yardstick. Another is their stylistic elaborateness (A-frames, waterfalls, dioramas,etc.) combined with their Tipsy (James Teitelbaum's Tikis-per-square-yard factor). But then there is something less tangible, which is their regional influence. The latter is what I refer to in the Book of Tiki as "Tiki power-places".

While Tiki temples like the Mai Kai and the Kahiki are clear examples of both, elaborate execution of the style and having been a mecca for Tiki revelers near and far, there are places like the Lanai in San Mateo or the Jade East in Tulsa who might have been not quite the million dollar Polynesian palaces, but which had a marked influence on the area where they were located.

This factor is of course harder to determine than the amount of ephemera from a place found today, so please do not let that keep you from compiling a list of the Tiki places YOU most value.


 
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2008-10-17 08:10 am   Permalink

So my list is:

1. Don's
2. Vic's
3. Steve's
4. The Tikis
5. Mai Kai
6. Kahiki
7. Kona Kais
8. Hawaii Kai
9. Ren Clark's
10. Tiki Bob's




 
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dogbytes
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Posted: 2008-10-17 10:22 pm   Permalink

i know Jardin Tiki, Montreal, Quebec, Canada has plates, coffee cups and saucers with their logo tiki.
and quite an interior..


 
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Koolau
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Posted: 2008-10-19 12:36 am   Permalink

Kinda hard to hit that mug + swizzle + plates trifecta, but I'll throw in the bars and restaurants of the Hilton Hawaiian Village for their great mugs and swizzles from the '70s.

 
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uncle trav
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From: Kalamazoo
Posted: 2008-10-19 05:26 am   Permalink

Good post. I have wondered about this for years with the Mauna Loa in Detroit. They had their name on mugs, swizzles, ashtrays, matchbooks, s&p shakers and even silverware. Not one dinner plate have I seen ...yet. I think most of the dinner ware got into the collectors market after these places closed down and the items were sold off. In the case of the Mauna Loa it was around for such a short time it was easier to "field collect" a mug or other small item rather than a lobster platter out in someones handbag. I'll keep looking. That's one of the best parts of the hobby. In the end I believe the fire got the rest. Just a theory though. Thanks.

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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2008-10-19 8:07 pm   Permalink

Considering the price tag of building the Mauna Loa...
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=30193&forum=10&1
...one would assume they had their own logo imprinted china!

I have to apologize to Boris that I went off on my own bend with my list of "The Big Ten" representing more what the ten most IMPORTANT Tiki places were in my mind, not answering his query and confusing the issue. To correct that according to the intention of his post:

Neither The Tikis nor Tiki Bob's ever had their own china, or swizzles. I am not sure if the Hawaii Kai did. But I know there are fine Ren Clark swizzles out there, with a big Milan Guanko logo Tiki on top! Sorry, can't deliver the image, Bosko has one.


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Bora Boris
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From: Boogie Wonderland
Posted: 2008-10-19 9:23 pm   Permalink

No Problem Big Bro,

after we get through this top ten we can tackle the ten most influential spots. Good to know that Ren Clark had a swizzle. Hopefully Bosko or someone with one will read this and be kind enough to post it for us all to drool over. I just need one more place for the list and I can relax.

I'm wondering now if Mark Thomas' Outrigger had a swizzle? Anyone?
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Tiki-Kate
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Posted: 2008-10-20 6:46 pm   Permalink

Did the Hawaiian Room at the Emerson Hotel have any kind of tableware?

I know that they had mugs and a swizzle.

It's odd that their swizzle has the Ren Clark logo tiki on it.




 
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2008-10-20 7:15 pm   Permalink

That plate is so cool! And I cannot recall if that is the same swizzle than Bosko has, his is a different color. But whatever happened with mugs sometimes (like the Tiki Bob's) also happened with swizzles, perhaps: The manufacturer got an order for a logo Tiki item and made it, and then kept the design as a sample for other customers, who then ordered it for their establishment, not knowing it had been branded. Case in point: The Kona Kai Tiki swizzle stick and its many copies.

I think I remember seeing a Mark Thomas swizzle, sans Tiki though, just the distinctive type face as a sculpt.

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TIKIBOSKO
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Posted: 2008-10-20 9:31 pm   Permalink

Hello all sorry for the delay I saw this post a few days ago and I have been looking thru my sticks but my day job gets in the way of things, I know I have some sticks that I can’t put my hands on so. I’ll post a few now, if there are any problems sorry I lack computer skills Truus is working on a new CD I am flying solo here.



First; yes Sven you are right and wrong, the swizzle below we concluded was a Milan Guanko inspired Tiki but mine is from the “Chrysler-Plymouth 100 Day dash” not Ren Clarks. But you are correct it probably ended up as a stock design (in this case) at Beacon the were one of the biggest swizzle manufacturers in mid century America, the good news is they used to do 18 (or so) different colors so imagine what is out there waiting for urban archeologists?





Next; A Tiki Bob stick I nearly had a heart attack when I found this one I have never seen another and had always assumed they didn’t have a stick, it looks a little later (era wise) with just the logo stamp.










Last; The Luau there are at least 20 different colors of the Luau stick here are four, but below if the harder to find Luau spear!






My very best alohas

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Bora Boris
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From: Boogie Wonderland
Posted: 2008-10-20 10:19 pm   Permalink

Thank You Bosko!


 
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Sabu The Coconut Boy
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From: Carson, California
Posted: 2008-10-20 10:42 pm   Permalink

Bosko - those are some beautiful swizzles. Didn't know the Tiki Bob existed.

I'm confirming that the Mauna Loa in Detroit did indeed have their own signature dinnerware.

I own just one dinner plate, but it's one of my prized possessions:






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Bora Boris
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From: Boogie Wonderland
Posted: 2008-10-20 10:46 pm   Permalink

Ohhhhhh Wow! Thank you Sabu.

 
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Rum Balls
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Posted: 2008-10-21 06:32 am   Permalink

So would this Top 10 be a coaches' poll...or writers' poll? And then I suppose we should put together a (S)BCS poll...Scorpion Bowl Championship Series!
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