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ron-tiki
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Posted: 2008-11-24 10:03 am   Permalink

hhhumm not sure but i think it's casa escobar in marina del rey.i will drive by and give an update

 
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Posted: 2008-11-24 11:04 am   Permalink

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On 2008-11-23 13:18, bigbrotiki wrote:
For easier reference:





Is that even a Tiki A-frame? With those diamond shaped "dots" on the front, and what looks somewhat like a Heraldic Shield hanging from the roof beam, it may be a Euro-style A-frame (i.e., a Swiss Chalet or Ski Lodge) that has allowed the paint to come off the front and had the roof redone in Mexican/Mediterranean unglazed tile.
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The Gnomon
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Posted: 2008-11-24 11:09 am   Permalink

Why don't you ask David Hasselhoff? There are places where you can do celebrity searches online and it looks as though trial memberships for the better services are cheap. One I saw has a $1 trial membership for a week.

That kind of service tries to find e-mail addresses, snailmail addresses, phones, etc. of the celebrity in question as well as that celebrity's agent and other contacts. You might not have to get all the way to Hasselhoff to get the info you want. The agent or some other related contact might know or might know of who you should be contacting to find out historical info regarding the Knight Rider series (like who was in charge of arranging the venue locations).


 
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Posted: 2008-11-24 2:13 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2008-11-24 11:04, freddiefreelance wrote:
Is that even a Tiki A-frame? With those diamond shaped "dots" on the front, and what looks somewhat like a Heraldic Shield hanging from the roof beam, it may be a Euro-style A-frame (i.e., a Swiss Chalet or Ski Lodge) that has allowed the paint to come off the front and had the roof redone in Mexican/Mediterranean unglazed tile.



Freddie, you're a genius...:

Quote:

On 2008-11-23 23:41, bigbrotiki wrote:
Looking at that sign close up, it now looks.... together with those studs in the A-frame fascia, like some medieval coat of arms, a la "Ye Olde" House of the Rising Sun......By the late 60s, A-frames housed all sorts of establishments, be it Italian restaurants, car dealerships, or churches.



But that all does not hinder this post to be an exciting chance for urban archeology! And don't diss David Hasselhof, he is really big in Germany! He had a singing career here! Like Heino!


 
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firebirdta84
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Posted: 2008-11-30 07:12 am   Permalink

Here are some additional screenshots. Not sure if this will help anyone:

Looking away from the building:


Front door:









Inside:



Note the building behind Hasselhoff's head:


Better view of the design on the front of the building:


Joe

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bladoww_chick
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Posted: 2008-12-01 08:21 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2008-11-30 07:12, firebirdta84 wrote:
Here are some additional screenshots. Not sure if this will help anyone:

Joe

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Sweet!!! Thanks Joe! Hopefully this sheds some light on things...


 
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Tom Slick
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Posted: 2008-12-01 09:50 am   Permalink

I'm not sure where this is, but if the "comtron" shot with the ladies is any indication, this location would be in OR North of the San Fernando Valley, and It could also be a location East of Covina area towards the San Bernardino Mountains "909" area. The terrain is identical.
Quote:

On 2008-11-30 07:12, firebirdta84 wrote:
Here are some additional screenshots. Not sure if this will help anyone:

Looking away from the building:

Joe



It sort of reminds me of the Odyssey Restaurant in Grenada Hills, based on the parking lot and view, but the current Odyssey does not have an A-frame structure. I do not know what the place looked like in the mid eighties either.
http://maps.google.com/maps?um=1&hl=en&q=odyssey%20restaurant%20grenada%20hills&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il

It also resembles the way old Bowling Alleys used to look, architectually speaking. In the late 70's up into the mid 80's, if by then bowling alleys were failed businesses, and if they weren't leveled to make room for strip malls and or housing, they were usually bought and converted into Restaurants and Nightclubs. Not sure if this applies here though.

Also, If you look at the shot closer, it looks like a lake view or body of water in the background behind the guard shack, and if the studio didn't shoot the above picture in a different location to make the restaurant seem to be somewhere else, it should narrow down the search. Hansen Dam in the Valley has views like this, as well as Puddingstone Lake in San Dimas(next to Raging Waters), both with the same Mountainous terrain. Lake Piru, Castaic Lake, Cachuma Lake, Pyramid Lake and Green Valley Lake in Ventura County also has this same terrain. Hope this can help someone close the mystery on "The House of The Rising Sun"...


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firebirdta84
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Posted: 2008-12-01 12:41 pm   Permalink

Hey guys,

I posted this question on another forum and someone responded with this:

"That's the old Cal Islands restaurant in Canyon Country. The building was demolished several years ago to make way for a new freeway onramp."

Found this also, not sure if it's the same one, or maybe they moved locations?

http://foodpage.us/661344

Can anyone verify?

Joe

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Tiki Shaker
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Posted: 2009-01-11 3:22 pm   Permalink

[quote]hhhumm not sure but i think it's casa escobar in marina del rey.i will drive by and give an update[quote]

ron-tiki, did you ever drive by to see what casa escobar looked like?

I have a postcard of the interior of a Casa Esocobar in Sherman Oaks. I bought it because I always thought it looked like a tiki establishment.



This one was located at 13321 Moorpark St.

It said it had a main dining room and the "Aztec Dining Room".

It also said there was one at 10951 W. Pico Blvd.



 
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congawa
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Posted: 2013-04-30 2:44 pm   Permalink

I'm reviving this thread because I've discovered the partial answer to this question, which would be the full answer as far as film location fans would be concerned--but not Tikiphiles.

Fortunately, a Knight Rider Forum found the answer last year. The A-frame building is the Tennessee Gin & Cotton Company (House of the Rising Sun is a sign added for the TV episode) at the southwest corner of Ventura Blvd. at Corbin Ave., Woodland Hills, which apparently existed under that banner from 1972 until it burned down in 1985 (a gas station is now on the site).

http://knightrideronline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1060&t=17509

To quote from posted "1982" on this forum:

"Now for the “House of the Rising Sun” location. I first remember the location site during filming 10 years before “Knight of the Phoenix”. In the mid 70’s it was a popular disco hangout called the “Tennessee Gin & Cotton Co.” that lasted until 1985 when it burned down. You may be able to make out their logo sign hanging from the rafter of the A-frame. The location was at the east end of the Corbin Village Shopping Center; southwest corner of Ventura Blvd and Corbin Ave, in Woodland Hills (roughly 19700 Ventura Blvd.)

"Below is their logo sign and site pictures from 1972 and 1980. “Tennessee Gin & Cotton Co.” aka “House of the Rising Sun” is in the center of each picture. About the only remaining signs left are the parking lot lights and retaining wall at the tree line."

You can also see on page 1 of this thread (pages 2 & 3 mostly dissect the Comtron location--which was elsewhere) confirmation that the bar interior was the genuine interior, not a studio set.

"1982" also posts: "For a comparison between then and today, there is one way that I know of. Back in the early to mid 1970’s, there was a TV show called Cannon, starring William Conrad. In a 1972 episode called “Murder by Moonlight” the script lists a scene at Ventura Blvd and Corbin Ave. If someone has the show on DVD, it should show the location. It should be a “bus” scene with Conrad as a passenger. A set of screen shots should do it." So there might or might be answers in the Cannon episode.

I've found a number of articles and posts via Google about the Tennessee Gin & Cotton Co. that go back to the 70's, and evidence that this was quite a notorious "meet market" in its day.

However, none of this answers the burning question: "What was this before 1972?", because it is almost certainly Tiki in origin. The Aku Aku Motel was down the street, but not adjacent. So it might be time to start looking through your matchbook collections for something in the 19700 block of Ventura Blvd., Woodland Hills, CA, for the answer.

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SandraDee
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Posted: 2013-04-30 2:50 pm   Permalink

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On 2013-04-30 14:44, congawa wrote:

Fortunately, a Knight Rider Forum found the answer last year.




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tikilongbeach
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Posted: 2013-04-30 2:54 pm   Permalink

Funny, San Fernando Valley Relics posted a picture of that place on Facebook today. It's the Tennessee Gin & Cotton Company in Woodland Hills like congawa said.



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Bora Boris
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Posted: 2013-04-30 3:10 pm   Permalink

There is still a Casa Escobar on Wilshire in Santa Monica. I've driven by it dozens of times but I've never stopped, I'll fix that soon.



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congawa
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Posted: 2013-04-30 3:12 pm   Permalink

Yes, that's what started my search (the Facebook post).

And the address of the Tennessee Gin & Cotton Co. was 19710 Ventura Blvd., Woodland Hills.


However, before that, at least up to 1974 or so, it was:

Torches West!

I found this matchbook on Kooky Kitsch, which I'm reposting with the link (credit where credit is due).



http://kookykitsch.com/Store/tabid/138/ProdID/4666/1960s_Matchbook_Torches_West_Restaurant_5_Torches_Inglewood_Woodland_Hills_CA_.aspx

However, going through The Valley News in Newspaper Archive, in 1967 it was a jazz club called Harlow's (at this address), which doesn't sound very Tiki.

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congawa
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Posted: 2013-04-30 3:31 pm   Permalink

Okay, here's what my Valley News and Green Sheet searches are telling me:

Nothing for 19710 Ventura Blvd. prior to 1967 (though the Valley News goes back to the 1950's in the search).

From 1967 until 1971 it was Harlow's Restaurant (a jazz club).

In the October 17, 1971, in the Valley business permits column, Nick Masney and Alice Lillion Masney are applying for Cafe Entertainment and Shows license for 19710 Ventura Blvd. Apparently here is where it was becoming Torches West.

The first reference to Torches West comes on December 31, 1971.

"Torches West Hosts Party for '72"
Torches West in Woodland Hills will feature six entrees on the New Year's Eve special menu, said owners Nick and Alice Masey. (that's how the name is spelled there)
...blah blah blah about their menu, then....
Torches West, formerly Harlow's restaurant, features dancing to Bob Frappia's Big Band plus favors and hats on New Years Eve. Also Mel Williams performs in cocktail lounge.

Last references to Torches West are 1974, so it must have become Tennessee Gin & Cotton Co. after that.

So the question is whether it was an A-frame originally as Harlow's, or good old Nick and Alice added that when it became Torches West. Or if there was an earlier incarnation prior to 1967, or that was about when it was built.

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