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Feedback wanted for Tiki Crawl 2009
Mai Tai
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Joined: Mar 21, 2004
Posts: 1432
From: Exotic Isle of Alameda
Posted: 2009-02-06 2:10 pm   Permalink

Great feedback, peeps! Keep it coming!
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On 2009-02-05 13:36, metikiman1705 wrote:
South Bay night was OK at best. Not to diss on any one place but I think the S.F and E.bay were beter.


No diss taken, metikiman. We definitely want to hear what people liked, and what people thought were shortcomings on The Crawl. It's easier for San Francisco and the East Bay to outshine San Jose, especially when you factor in historical significance. But compared to the S.F. and the East Bay, the South Bay seems to be catching up, and developing it's own scene, which seems to be getting better every year. Even though we lost Martini Monkey as a destination on the crawl, new things keep developing in that area.

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On 2009-02-05 11:35, Tiki-Kate wrote:
I'd like the San Francisco night to start at the De Young Museum. I always seem to be hearing about these cocktail receptions that they host.



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On 2009-02-05 22:34, Bora Boris wrote:
Hmm, I would say "So Long Trad'r Sams!" Grouchy Grouchy!

Can the Kona Club stop be about a half hour instead of two hours? I know they want their menu's back but can I get my two hours back? Jeez! Hall and Oates anyone?

I agree with Tiki-Kate a stop at the De Young Museum would be nice.

Bring back Hawaii West.

More time at Forbidden Island for the out of towners that go back to work on Monday and can't hang around for wind down Sunday.


The DeYoung Museum is a good idea, Kate and Grouchy Boris. All very good points. I can't make any promises for a shirted Boz Scaggs, though.

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On 2009-02-06 07:20, Chief Bartender at Brenda's Tiki Hut wrote:
I'd like to see some of the places better prepared for us. The Tonga Room last time was just plain rude and not a good start to the evening. They acted like they didn't want us there. And the Kona Club was happy to see us but plain unprepared.


Yeah, some places are going to give surly service no matter where they are located, or how much business you bring to them. There are a couple of diner type restaurants in Manhattan that will throw your ass out and maybe ban you for a month plus for simply trying to substitute something on your order, or bringing more than a party of 4, or even trying to split up your party of 4 into smaller groups. Ridiculous, yes. But it happens, that's life.

I think that some of the stops will always be unprepared, have servers that are irritated that they have to work a busier than normal crowd (even though they are getting tips from us, or have virtually no business at all during that period), and even have managers and owners that aren't really all that welcoming of the business that we bring to them. People on The Crawl feel it, but as Crawl organizers we feel it even more. Just try to look at it as part of the experience: those folks in Manhattan that get kicked out and temporarily banned from the restaurant keep coming back for the experience.

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And before the next crawl, keep the wife away from staircases. I missed having her on the crawl.


Sean, staircases are the enemy! Even more so than Buffett! Heh heh.

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Mai Tai
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From: Exotic Isle of Alameda
Posted: 2009-02-06 2:41 pm   Permalink

One area that we'd especially like feedback on is the anchor hotel. Do folks like staying at the Phoenix Hotel, and should we keep that as the anchor hotel? It made a lot of sense to stay at the Phoenix when Trader Vic's San Francisco was right up the street. Sadly, that Trader Vic's is now gone. Would people still prefer to stay at the Phoenix, or would they rather stay at a place in the East Bay that is closer to all of the East Bay locations on The Crawl? Do out of town Crawlers look forward to spending the weekend in San Francisco? Or is it a non issue to them whether they stay in San Francisco or the East Bay? Or are there even enough out of towners to justify having an anchor hotel - especially considering everyones' tight finances in todays economy? Inquiring minds want to know!
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suzanne
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From: A Jet to Paradise
Posted: 2009-02-06 9:19 pm   Permalink

If I sleep at all, it's usually on someone's floor, so my half cent isn't going to pipe in here.

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Rum Runner
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Joined: May 17, 2006
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From: Oakland, CA
Posted: 2009-02-06 9:21 pm   Permalink

Seems Tiki is San Francisco is in sad shape these days
For something different why don't we go to
Classic cocktail bars for the SF night, instead of tiki bars
keep the Tonga Room if you must, but skip the rest
did someone say........Bourbon & Branch !


 
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metikiman1705
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From: Roseville,Ca
Posted: 2009-02-07 01:24 am   Permalink

I thought the Phoenix looked cool but we stayed in the East Bay ourselves. It was just as convenient.
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VampiressRN
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Joined: Nov 23, 2006
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From: Sun City Lincoln Hills (NorCal)
Posted: 2009-02-07 08:21 am   Permalink

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On 2009-02-05 11:30, The Granite Tiki wrote:
Bring back the HanfordCam!



I second that. Not much of a crawler myself, but so loved the cam....it was funny to see when an enthusiast ordered a drink over the phone for Hanford...and the tunnel was fun too. I watch all of it.
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midnite
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From: 37? 47' N, 122? 26' W
Posted: 2009-02-09 4:28 pm   Permalink

More skin on Love Boat!

Ok, so my pat answer for requested feedback is not entirely germane herein, but I like to throw it out nonetheless.

Crawl wise? yeah, I seen a few. Here we go: I'd have to say the anchor hotel is a good idea, and East Bay for the location as well. Stops per night should stay at four, maximum. In terms of SF, ugghh. We have to keep Trad'r Sam's for pure history's sake. Tonga as well, even though each time I visit that once great room in the Fairmont I leave sad and discouraged. East Bay? More time at FI would be great, the drinks there are the best overall. Conga, sadly, is just too small and while Kona is beautiful and has plenty of space I cannot say I visit it anytime other than the Crawl. South Bay, I like a small start to things...Vic's and the Stanford (eek!) garden would be fine with me. Remember, the Crawl is a marathon, not a sprint!

The Emeryville Vic's stop was great last year, much better than starting there in the early afternoon. That would be the one "new" thing I'd like to see repeated.

One thing I wish we'd see more of is out of towners attending the festivities. I mean, sure, I don't necessarily wish to see the SF Crawl a global media event with corporate sponsorship and Pay-per-View, but more visitors is better. Heck, I recall when we'd get people coming from Canada, and once there was a guy from France...Paris, that is. Even the Hoities have been fewer are farther between.

So, in conclusion...double Isaacs for the SF Crawl!

Set a course for adventure,
midnite


 
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princessP
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Joined: Jul 17, 2004
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From: alameda, ca
Posted: 2009-02-09 6:43 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-02-06 21:21, Rum Runner wrote:
Seems Tiki is San Francisco is in sad shape these days
For something different why don't we go to
Classic cocktail bars for the SF night, instead of tiki bars
keep the Tonga Room if you must, but skip the rest
did someone say........Bourbon & Branch !



I Haven't done any of the crawls however.
I like Bourbon and Branch. However on a busy night you can wait for up to 40 mins for your drinks as we did last week with reservations. With a crowd as big as the Tiki crawl you want to rent out a room. You would have to call to see how much that would cost . However the place makes very good cocktails.


 
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monet2u
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From: SF, CA
Posted: 2009-02-11 10:17 am   Permalink

Only went to East Bay night this past crawl, but loved it. I like the idea of a bus. I might have done the SF Crawl if there had been a bus, because it's just easier Dealing with taxis, Muni, or parking can be a real drag.

Even tho I don't need the anchor hotel, since I live in SF, it does seem like a good idea. I'm guessing those visiting from afar, would prefer a SF hotel for the tourist factor.

I wasn't that interested in the South Bay Crawl. Perhaps if you just had SF and Oakland that would be plenty? Also start times were a bit too early for me since I'm local. I might be able to take off early on a Friday, but not Thursday too. That's why the East Bay worked well for me, it was Saturday.

Overall, this is a great event, you can do as little or as much as you want. It seems to work for everyone. Met a bunch of great new folks and got to hang out with some of my fave people too boot.

Oh yeah, the TV ending was great! They were so nice to us and I hope we can end there this year too. Can't wait for TIKI CRAWL 09!


 
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RikiTikiTavi
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Joined: Jul 23, 2006
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Posted: 2009-02-11 2:25 pm   Permalink

Always love the crawl!

The bus is a plus, for sure. I regret not being able to go to TV in Emeryville this year where the crawl ended, but it's kinda way out there -- hard to get back to any kind of transit for those not driving....

Conga Lounge was also tough -- the lines were VERY long, and there's just not a lot of room. Maybe we could colonize the downstairs?

As others have mentioned, many locations are great for atmosphere, but pits for drinks and/or service. Any possibility something could be negotiated with any of these places to have guest bartenders? Or request a special drink or two on the menu for our group? I think access to quality drinks, and trying new drinks, would be a big plus!



 
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bigtikidude
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Joined: Aug 10, 2004
Posts: 8849
From: Anaheim,Ca.
Posted: 2009-02-11 9:47 pm   Permalink

by the way,
when is the crawl going to be?
I would like to try to make it this year.

mini crawl this weekend.
FI sat. 5 to 8 pm
sun. maybe TV Emeryville for brunch.
FI sun. nite. 8 ish.


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sweetpea
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Joined: Jan 14, 2003
Posts: 882
From: Seattle
Posted: 2009-02-20 10:17 am   Permalink

BUS BUS BUS.
well, hopefully I won't miss it again.
It sucked missing the last one after going from #1 on!!!
even the time I flew down on Sat, then back home sunday morning. hahahaha
anyhow, I think the bus is best!
Can't say about the east bay, south etc, since I never know where I really am there anyhow, just let me off the bus and direct me to my next drink...

oh yeah, any dates figured out?


 
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Unga Bunga
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Joined: Jun 06, 2003
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From: CaliTikifornia
Posted: 2009-02-20 11:40 am   Permalink

How about the Novato Grotto and Notch's hot rod shop. (Sorry Martin and Notch, very rude of me to do that, but were getting desperate.)

Maybe we can dedicate one night for a home Tiki crawl? I think we did that at some past bar crawls, like a medley ( public bar/private home/public bar). That is if people are willing to open their doors to us wackos.)


 
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Jungle Trader
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From: Trader's Jungle Outpost, Turlock, Ca.
Posted: 2009-02-20 12:28 pm   Permalink

How about a stop at Trader's Jungle Outpost? Okay, I know it's a long shot.
What about a Polynesian Dance Show? With Drums of The Pacific? I love that!


 
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Unga Bunga
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From: CaliTikifornia
Posted: 2009-02-20 2:02 pm   Permalink

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On 2009-02-20 12:28, Jungle Trader wrote:
How about a stop at Trader's Jungle Outpost? Okay, I know it's a long shot.



That's because you never have any dancing girls.


 
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