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Tama - update
Benzart
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Posted: 2010-03-27 08:39 am   Permalink

I'm sorta thinkin' it must be time for another humongus update, hey Tama. You Know we all Love your pieces and can't wait for the next installment so Bring it On!!

 
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riki tiki tavi 1
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Posted: 2010-03-27 12:43 pm   Permalink

Hi Tama I have been enjoying looking at your wonderful carvings on trademe for a while now,good to see an extended range on tiki central,love the finish you are getting lots of hand work!The style and feel your work imparts is a window into your soul.
Being a leisure loving person (lazy)I have worked out many ways to streamline the labor intensive problems that come with hand finishing (all my work is totally hand finished too)without comprising the work,some time ago I handmade a tiki the old way with the old tools and was rewarded with some techniques that have been adapted to help eased the time spent finishing.One I see that would help you is making the eyes the old way with a modern twist,carve the eyes with diamond tools as you want them,before you do any hand work get a piece of dowel (round wood)that is the size of the channel or bigger (sand or whittle one to shape)grind a concave dome in the bottom close to the shape of the pupil you want,put the dowel into a chucked drill, I use a battery powered hand drill, tighten up the chuck enough to hold the dowel without slipping,too tight will crush it,get some silicon carbide loose grit 120 or so (crush up a slip stone )I use tumbling grit,put it in the channel,put and over the pupil with a bit of oil or water,put the piece of dowel over the pupil and into the channel and with a relatively low speeds finish away!the wood will conform to the shape you have carved and with the grit embedded in it grind nicely away all the irregularities and tool marks,add more grit ,oil or water as needed,to fast it will heat up and flick the grit away, put finer grit in after you have the desired shape or finish if you choose,all over in a matter of minutes and perfect without and ripples or tool marks just like an old one!keep the dowel for the next one.Our ancestors were no fools and didn't waste time nor energy needlessly, their knowledge is written in their work,a glimpse into their heart.


 
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Tamapoutini
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Posted: 2010-03-28 02:31 am   Permalink

Big BenZ - thanks my friend, its been too long. Ill email you soon..

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On 2010-03-27 12:43, riki tiki tavi 1 wrote:
Hi Tama I have been enjoying looking at your wonderful carvings on trademe for a while now,good to see an extended range on tiki central,love the finish you are getting lots of hand work!The style and feel your work imparts is a window into your soul.
Being a leisure loving person (lazy)I have worked out many ways to streamline the labor intensive problems that come with hand finishing (all my work is totally hand finished too)without comprising the work,some time ago I handmade a tiki the old way with the old tools and was rewarded with some techniques that have been adapted to help eased the time spent finishing.One I see that would help you is making the eyes the old way with a modern twist,carve the eyes with diamond tools as you want them,before you do any hand work get a piece of dowel (round wood)that is the size of the channel or bigger (sand or whittle one to shape)grind a concave dome in the bottom close to the shape of the pupil you want,put the dowel into a chucked drill, I use a battery powered hand drill, tighten up the chuck enough to hold the dowel without slipping,too tight will crush it,get some silicon carbide loose grit 120 or so (crush up a slip stone )I use tumbling grit,put it in the channel,put and over the pupil with a bit of oil or water,put the piece of dowel over the pupil and into the channel and with a relatively low speeds finish away!the wood will conform to the shape you have carved and with the grit embedded in it grind nicely away all the irregularities and tool marks,add more grit ,oil or water as needed,to fast it will heat up and flick the grit away, put finer grit in after you have the desired shape or finish if you choose,all over in a matter of minutes and perfect without and ripples or tool marks just like an old one!keep the dowel for the next one.Our ancestors were no fools and didn't waste time nor energy needlessly, their knowledge is written in their work,a glimpse into their heart.



Kia ora Riki Tiki Tavi! Your name is familiar from TMe too. Mean skills brother!!

Thanks heaps for the info above, I really mean that. Ive only recently started using rubbing sticks and rasps again (after dropping them in an effort to 'streamline' operations many years ago, a bit of a leisure lover myself) - yep, you just cant beat those old techniques. You pounced right onto the eye-thing & I fully intend to give your dowel technique a go. If you havent guessed already I create my eyes with small ball burrs and go round and round and round.. rather than the more common core-drilled sockets, ugly things eh? Really its just one more step but a vital one I can see. Ditto, getting into some of the tight/deep lines - doesnt matter how they are created, there always seems to be a slight 'ripple'/bounce from the tool that doesnt want to come out with rubbing sticks (I have small 'ceraton' sticks in a couple of grades). Half the time the sticks seem to accentuate the problem. Do you have any tips to clean up those areas?

There is a thread here somewhere, 'Stone Carving Q&A' - any info you wanted to add there would be very helpful to the carving archives. Not so many stone grinders here but certainly an interested few. Ill be watching anyway, thanks again for the above.

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laojia
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Posted: 2010-03-29 9:37 pm   Permalink

Be very very interesting all this...

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Tamapoutini
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Posted: 2010-04-06 04:40 am   Permalink

A Tiki 'Gallery' forum now? Man, where have I been..?

*Just to inform that, at present, next update will have at least 11 new works to show..

Aaaaaand - Im going to have to hunt down 'Tama's Workshop' thread, because today something finally HAPPENED! (got a string-line pegged out). But more of that later..






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Tamapoutini
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Posted: 2010-04-27 03:21 am   Permalink

Kia ora All!

Time to update. Still nothing but a stringline showing where the new workshop will be (waiting for council approval..) but actual money has been spent, so Id better see some action soon, haha.

A few bits n bobs from recent months:

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Ill start with this one seeing as how theres only one random pic of her floating around..? pauashell eyes:


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This wahine has had quite a journey: she began life as a simple toki/adze form, but the stone was so nice that I reworked into a hei-Tiki pendant. Somehow I never felt she was quite finished so in a rare move I cut the cords off and reworked again, adding ribs, changing mouth and defining a few features:












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Another trad, this one worked over with coarse abrasive stones to recreate the appearance of genuine pre-contact artifacts.


















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A side-hanging variety from local stone (found many years ago, just a few hundred metres from my house..):


(for those too lazy to turn their heads..)










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A++ as-good-as-it-gets "gem" quality Marsden jade! mmmmmmm..














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Pekapeka pendant, not the greatest stone this one:




















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"Rei-Taniwha" (sea-monster tooth):




















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And while we're on the subject of teeth; a large whaletooth form, suspended akin to Fijian 'tabua':


























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Contemporary pekapeka form in very dark 'kawakawa' (pepper-tree leaf) stone. Also given the rough treatment, only gentler..


















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A very hefty wahine in 'kokopu' jade, named after its resemblance to the belly of native trout:





















Upon receiving this piece, the buyer commissioned a smaller version for a family member:











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Contemporary 'manaia' in lovely translucent stone:




















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Trad with 'tude. One of several incorporating the outer discoloured (oxidised) part of stone:


















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And another recent Rei-pounamu (jade tooth). This piece also utlises the oxidised stone for effect - although the jade from this particular source is in a different class altogether, most notable for its very hard/usable/attractive outer material (this oxidisation process being the death of most other stones).




















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And finally a couple of pics of rock-chopping action! Screaming lapidary porn, yeah. 24" blade, 2hp motor, 1800rpm..








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ok, I guess Id better head back to the shed for another couple of months..


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laojia
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Posted: 2010-04-27 9:20 pm   Permalink

Since the time I expected .... I not dared to ask again ... What a wonderful little family of hei tiki! I like the different ways to finish depending on the quality of stones you carve. The "rei Pounamou" seems to be stained with blood ... You make aesthetic qualities with the defects, very good!
My favorite is the modern Pekapeka...

Thank's for sharing!

J.
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MarkusK
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Posted: 2010-04-27 10:36 pm   Permalink

You're on fire!!!
They're all equally beautiful. Impressive talent, Andy!


 
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AlohaStation
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Posted: 2010-04-28 12:10 pm   Permalink

I like the use of the bike tire as a fender. More great stuff!!

 
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mieko
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Posted: 2010-04-28 2:47 pm   Permalink

I really like both of the Pekapeka. Very cool. The amazing clarity of that gem quality stone is really neat to see, especially side by side with other "lesser" quality stones. I personally enjoy the stones with more inclusions and character, but I do appreciate the cleaner stuff.

and Wow, what a big rock you have!!!
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Benzart
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From: Port Saint Lucie, Florida
Posted: 2010-05-01 05:06 am   Permalink

TAMA, I LOVE the Saw photos,,Yes "Tool Porn" every one.
Mostly I am HappyHappyHappy to se your post full of delectable nephrite carvings that only you can do like you do..
Love the Kokopu one and the pekapekas and really love the Tooth type pieces,, Nice addition to an already Aah-Some bunch of stuff.
Thanks, I Needed this, maybe I can get some stuff together to post too?
Cheers
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Tamapoutini
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Posted: 2010-05-03 04:49 am   Permalink

Thanks guys!

Laojia: Ill try not to leave it so long between posts (I have 3 new pieces tucked away for next time You have nailed it with your observation; working to/with the stones inherant flaws and attributes plays a major part in carving. You simply cant force a stone to accept a design that it won't handle, and so it makes sense to 'design to the stone' (a popular catch-phrase amongst local carvers). Thanks for watching L!

MarcusK: cheers!

Aloha: Aloha! Glad you like it, but sadly the bike tyre is the one component that is only temporary, although knowing me it will wear this forever more, haha!

Mieko: "and Wow, what a big rock you have!!!" - *it used to be even bigger..

and BenZ: How are you my friend? I should have known you'd like the drop-saw, being the toolman you are. I hope you do flip up some new work soon, although you know what a slacker I am at keeping up with other peoples work. Im amazed anyone keeps up with mine nowdays. Will email you soon

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Benzart
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Posted: 2010-05-09 06:00 am   Permalink

Thanks Tama the late yes the saw rocks but so do your Giant Gallery of pieces, some Real Treasures in there. I was trying to choose a favorite and couldn't get down below a dozen do ya still have my email addy?


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Benzart
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Posted: 2010-08-05 07:57 am   Permalink

You MUST have a page full saved up by now slacker? C'mon, Where's it hiding?

 
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Tamapoutini
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Posted: 2010-08-09 2:33 pm   Permalink

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On 2010-08-05 07:57, Benzart wrote:
You MUST have a page full saved up by now slacker? C'mon, Where's it hiding?



You're right Ben, I DO have a page full hidden away but enjoy the power that witholding them gives me.. mwahahahahaaaa!

Actually, production has slowed to about half since I last checked in: had a couple of weeks of warmth over on the Sunshine/Gold Coasts, Australia and have been helping with building my new workshop wherever possible. Will flip up some pics of this with next update, soon.

Thanks for the prod!
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