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Trader Vic's, St. Louis, MO (restaurant)
Bora Boris
Mr. Unreasonable

Joined: Mar 25, 2005
Posts: 2617
From: Boogie Wonderland
Posted: 2009-05-25 7:21 pm   Permalink

Name:Trader Vic's
Type:restaurant
Street: 4th & Washington (333 Washington Avenue)
City: St. Louis
State:MO
Zip: 63101
country:USA
Phone:314-621-7900
Status:defunct

Description:
This Trader Vic's closed in 1985. Located in the Bel Air East Motor Hotel. It's now a Hampton Inn, the phone number for the hotel is still current.



 
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Bora Boris
Mr. Unreasonable

Joined: Mar 25, 2005
Posts: 2617
From: Boogie Wonderland
Posted: 2009-05-25 7:23 pm   Permalink


Barney West Tikiís flank the entrance.


Iím not really crazy about the hotel before or after.
In the before picture you can see the Trader Vicís entrance peeking over the fence.

Letís say itís 1973 and weíre planning a St. Louis crawl, I suggest we start at
The Mainlander and then proceed 9.1 miles to Eddy Song's Polynesian Village.



From Eddy Songís we head just 0.3 miles to our third and final stop Trader Vicís in the Bel Air East Hotel.

_

Followed by a room crawl before passing out. The next morning Iíll be in that roof top pool.



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TabooDan
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Joined: Jul 18, 2004
Posts: 662
From: Tiki in a Crowsnest, AB., Canada
Posted: 2009-05-25 8:09 pm   Permalink

Hey Bora Boris, Cool post! I would be up for that Tiki Crawl!!

I assumed this location was already on here although I had never looked for it before. It is one of the few Trader Vic locations where you can actually find a pretty cool exterior shot (like the first card posted by Bora above). I love the way you have this sort of modern, concrete jungle, meeting the savage and authentic South Pacific. Just enter the Hut if you dare!
Very cool exterior and great Tikis!

Here is a nice one of the interior that I have:



I find the St.Louis memorabilia to be some of the hardest Trader Vic items to find. Lot's of the usual great Trader Vic decor and plenty of eye candy!!

Here's the reverse of the card:



I also have a old matchbook from here that the original owner had written the dates of "3/17-20/68" on the inside. I guess they liked it there so much they either went back there every night or never left for three days!!



I find this following picture of the inside to be much harder to find than the one I posted above:



This card is a differnt veiw of the same room above. It gives a good idea of the very cool ceiling that they did in a few of the classic early Trader Vic's. Also a good shot of the lamps from the ceiling, table decor and some more carved poles.

I'm pretty sure BigBroTiki has a small Ad or Brochure from this location. He has it featured on page 24 and 25 of his book, Tiki Modern. That would be cool to add to this thread as well.

Mahalo, TabooDan




 
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Dustycajun
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Joined: Nov 16, 2007
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From: Santa Barbara, CA
Posted: 2009-05-25 9:11 pm   Permalink

Here is a table top menu showing the two tikis at the entrance.




DC


 
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TabooDan
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From: Tiki in a Crowsnest, AB., Canada
Posted: 2009-05-25 9:25 pm   Permalink

Thanks DC!
That's the other item that I had seen from here and it's a cool one!

So, what else is out there??


 
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marquee6
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Joined: Jan 07, 2009
Posts: 16
From: St. Louis
Posted: 2009-05-26 12:16 am   Permalink

Thanks for photos of the St. Louis Trader Vic's. That was my first exposure to Tiki. My Uncle took my sister and I there for dinner when I was about 4 years old. That was in 1972. I was in absolute awe of the large Tikis outside, my sister had to pull me away from them. We saw the fire dancers and ate "Polynesian" Chinese food. It is one of my favorite childhood memories. On another note, I may have a piece of the TV's. I was junk shopping on Cherokee Street in St. Louis when I found a two sided Tiki. It is the same Tiki carved on TV's wooden door. It looks like some kind of decorative piece for a railing or the like. I will have to post a picture at some point because I would like to know more about it. Any way thanks for bringing back some great memories.

Cheers!
Scott


 
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Dustycajun
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From: Santa Barbara, CA
Posted: 2009-05-27 11:17 am   Permalink

Here is another postcard I have with a slightly different view of the hotel exterior and a peek at the Trader Vic's entrance. It just kills me that the photographer focused on the building and not Trader Vics



Here is a close up of the two tikis on the left side of the entrance.



DC


 
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TabooDan
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From: Tiki in a Crowsnest, AB., Canada
Posted: 2009-05-27 8:56 pm   Permalink

Hey Scott, thanks for the post and I am glad Bora Boris posted this one!! Also glad that it struck a nerve with you and that you had visited what looks to have been a great location!!
That's another thing I love about TC is that people like you come on here and share their memories. We would not have a lot of information about these places or even know about some of them if people didn't do these posts.

Great photos DC!! Can I sign up for one of your library cards so I can withdrawl some of your items?? Although, it may be like high school and you may get them back in a different condition (like missing pieces) then they were signed out to me!!

TabooDan


 
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Dustycajun
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From: Santa Barbara, CA
Posted: 2010-12-22 4:25 pm   Permalink

I hit the paper jackpot from the Trader Vic's in St. Louis. All of these items came together from an estate sale. Here is the story.

It seems that Mr. Robert Saul from New Jersey was planning a trip to St. Louis in 1965 and sent a letter to the Trader Vic's restaurant asking for menu information. Here is the letter that was sent back to Mr. Saul.




As you can see in the letter, Mr. C. Chu, the manager of Trader Vic's, sent Mr. Saul a dinner menu, a luncheon menu, a cocktail menu, an appetizer menu and a postcard in response to his request. That is amazing!


The standard dinner menu.




The standard drink menu.





The very nice Luncheon menu.




One of my favorite Trader Vic's pieces of all time, the hard to find appetizer menu featuring the front of the restaurant.





The inside of the appetizer menu.





The postcard.





But wait, there's more! Also included was a specialty menu featuring Hawaiian and Tahitian foods that I have NEVER seen before (and I have seen a lot of menus).





Here is the cover with a story on the food. Interesting that the menu was advertising recipes that would be in Trader Vic's upcoming book "Trader Vic's Pacific Cookery".




I can't remember another item from Trader Vic's that used the Easter Island style moai images?

The interior of the menu with some very nice illustrations and the Hawaiian and Tahitian selections.




What a great little slice of Trader Vic's history from 1965. I bet Mr. Saul had a good time!


DC


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Johnny Dollar
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Joined: Oct 01, 2003
Posts: 3068
From: Columbus, Ohiya
Posted: 2010-12-23 05:58 am   Permalink

i have quite a few photos of that entrance canopy from the late 90s, before the hotel was covered in EIFS.

the location of the hotel is great, only about four blocks from the waterfront (laclede's landing) and the gateway arch (designed by eero saarinen).

both my grandparents and parents dined there while it was operational. i inherited a matchbook from there from my grandfather, who was a matchbook collector.

i'll try to find the photos (old school photographic PRINTS) and scan and post them this weekend.



 
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Swanky
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Joined: Apr 03, 2002
Posts: 5276
From: Hapa Haole Hideaway, TN
Posted: 2010-12-23 09:21 am   Permalink

I am adding the name Elsie Woo here from the letter in hopes some day her family go searching for her and find us here to share...

 
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Trad'r Bill
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Joined: Oct 14, 2008
Posts: 492
From: Hercules, CA
Posted: 2010-12-23 09:50 am   Permalink

Great score DC-
I've never seen that "Truly Polynesian" menu before either.

I really like the Trader's explanation of how his dishes are "interpretations" of original recipes. I always thought he played them off as 100% authentic, because people just didn't know better back then. The story of how Crab Rangoon originated in Burma comes to mind...

I'm also wondering if Vic *did* sell his dishes as authentic Polynesian/Chinese fare in the early days, but then changed his tune as customers became more informed about authenticity. Certainly nowadays Vic's is seen more as a "fusion" restaurant, rather than authentic Polynesian/Chinese. I wonder if your menu may mark the turning point in this change in marketing.

-Trad'r Bill


 
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Johnny Dollar
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Posts: 3068
From: Columbus, Ohiya
Posted: 2011-01-01 11:20 am   Permalink

ok as promised, here are my photos - i figure these as from 1999 / 2000.


at the time it was a ramada inn, but it must have been purchased by hampton inn shortly thereafter. you can see that the original pool was enclosed by this point as well.






detail of the panels at the side of the entrance lobby




"CLUB MISSISSIPPI COVE" on the entry doors lintel - don't know if that was contemporary with the original restaurant.

p.s. old thread from 2004 -
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=7987&forum=1&17



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bigbrotiki
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 11588
From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
Posted: 2011-01-01 3:29 pm   Permalink

Wonderful pics- but the three huge Barney West Tikis are not there anymore....
What happened to those, they were too big to just have decayed!?


 
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Johnny Dollar
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From: Columbus, Ohiya
Posted: 2011-01-21 07:28 am   Permalink

cross-posted from this thread: http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=7987&forum=1&17

Quote:

On 2004-03-05 11:29, bigbrotiki wrote:
Wwwwhaaa! That place still stands!? Why didn't anybody TELL me! It's one of the better examples of midcentury modern and Tiki in one. That postcard kills me the way one can see the Barney West Tikis but the A-frame is cut off. I'm dieing to find a full shot of the entrance AND the building, with all Tikis, and 60s cars...

I have an interior postcard of the Trader Vic's there, it had a great circular hut ceiling, it closed in 1985. Otherwise it didn't seem to be too decked out. TV usually takes their stuff back, it's probably all gutted inside.

Bosko gave me a brochure from it when it was a BEL AIR Motor Hotel:
"Bel Air Motor Hotels proudly display hundreds of America's finest, original contemporary art AND ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST IMPORTANT NEW GUINEA PRIMITIVE ART COLLECTIONS" (!?)

The owner must have been an art collector, WHO built the two BEL AIRs in St. Louis, and what happened later?

Please go an take lots of pictures of the remains, wide and close up. And J$, what do you know about it?

Oh, and while we are in St. Louis, why are there no images, Exterior or Interior, to be found of "The Mainlander" (BOT p.179)



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