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A Little More about Orgeat
Eulercircles
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Posted: 2009-05-29 1:42 pm   Permalink

I have been lurking this board for a little while, reading up on how to make ingredients for the original Mai Tai. I just made my second batch of Orgeat (with whole, blanched almonds), and am going to make a third batch tonight with almond milk. I just found the Orange Flower Water at a whole foods store today (and it is totally different from the watered down orange extract I used - LOL). I was reading up at Art of Drink about Orgeat, then I went to the Mai Tai article. I found myself reading about an American gourmet brand of Grenadine that got good reviews, and after heading over to their website I found that they make an Orgeat. Here is the link:

http://www.sonomasyrup.com/product13.html

Has anyone ever tried this one? How do you think it compares to other brands?


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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2009-05-29 2:07 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-05-29 13:42, Eulercircles wrote:
...I found that they make an Orgeat. Here is the link:

http://www.sonomasyrup.com/product13.html

Has anyone ever tried this one? How do you think it compares to other brands?



Discussion here:
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=30526&forum=10

Congrats on making your own orgeat. And yes, orange flower water and orange extract are not even close to the same thing.


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Staredge
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Posted: 2009-05-29 5:57 pm   Permalink

I was finally able to A/B the Sonoma with Monin. The Sonoma is very delicately flavored. Not a huge blast of almond like the Monin. The Mai Tais were pretty close if I subbed the Sonoma for both Orgeat and Simple Syrup. Still not as strong, but there.

 
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Eulercircles
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Posted: 2009-06-01 4:05 pm   Permalink

Thanks for the link and the encouragement!

I made a batch of "Ahu Orgeat #1" using Almond Breeze. I cut back the sugar a bit as my resulting Mai Tai's are a little too sweet - and my girlfriend is diabetic. It came out very nicely. I need to get a better rum though - getting Appleton Estate V/X next time.

I'll search the forums, but has any brave soul ever attempted to make their own rum?


 
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Staredge
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Posted: 2009-06-01 7:32 pm   Permalink

I started with the V/X, because it was all I could find. Finally tracked down the Extra when i ran low and WOW what a difference. Worth the effort.

 
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Chip and Andy
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Posted: 2009-06-01 7:53 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-06-01 16:05, Eulercircles wrote:
I'll search the forums, but has any brave soul ever attempted to make their own rum?



I'll let you know in about 10 more years.

I mean, No. The ATF frown on that sort of thing and I am a law abiding citizen who would never try to make my own hooch.



 
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Eulercircles
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Posted: 2009-06-01 8:52 pm   Permalink

I had a bottle of the extra, and it was gone so quick - damn good that stuff. Currently, however, I can't fork over $35 per bottle.

Ah yes, the long arm of the law. But I thought it was only illegal to make moonshine? Theoretically, however, where would someone get a good oak cask to age their own rum in? This is for educational purposes only, of course.


 
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Chip and Andy
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Posted: 2009-06-01 8:55 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-06-01 20:52, Eulercircles wrote:
Theoretically, however, where would someone get a good oak cask to age their own rum in? This is for educational purposes only, of course.



Where everything comes from......ebay!

Down here in our end of the world they aren't so easy to come by. There is a winery down in Homestead that might be able to hook you up. Maybe.



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captnkirk
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Posted: 2009-06-02 04:09 am   Permalink

Moonshine is not a technical term I think it applies to all illegally distilled beverages, if you make rum with out the proper license from the Government you have made moonshine.

I know Bourbon distilleries sell off their old oak barrels. Last time I was in Frankfort, KY, I picked one up for less than $20 for my Mom to saw in half and use as a planter.


 
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leisure master
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Posted: 2009-06-02 06:36 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-06-01 20:52, Eulercircles wrote:
Theoretically, however, where would someone get a good oak cask to age their own rum in? This is for educational purposes only, of course.


Not that I would EVER think about doing something contrary to the law....here's some companies that could theoretically hook you up...

http://www.independentstavecompany.com/
http://www.whiskeybarrel.com/
http://www.gibbsbrothers.com/
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The Gnomon
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Posted: 2009-06-02 08:05 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-05-29 13:42, Eulercircles wrote:

http://www.sonomasyrup.com/product13.html

Has anyone ever tried this one? How do you think it compares to other brands?



I haven't tried it, but I wouldn't really want to. It's made with vanilla extract, which is not part of the orgeat flavor and ruins it as an orgeat. It's made with almond extract, which means it does not use the almond milk emulsion that defines orgeat in the first place. Orgeat is a whitish substance and does not have anywhere near the sugar content of simple syrup or rock candy syrup. To me, this Sonoma product is not only not the 'Natural "Orgeat"' that it claims to be, I don't see how it qualifies as orgeat at all.

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Chip and Andy
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Posted: 2009-06-02 08:18 am   Permalink

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On 2009-06-01 16:05, Eulercircles wrote:
Thanks for the link and the encouragement!

I made a batch of "Ahu Orgeat #1" using Almond Breeze.



I have found that you can use a double measure of the Ahu #1 Orgeat and skip the simple syrup entirely and still get a really good Mai-Tai.

And, I tried making the orgeat with fake sugar and it worked OK..... I don't recommend it as a general practice, but in the case of the diabetic girlfriend it is worth trying. Fair warning, the final product is a bit thin tasting so you might have to adjust your recipe a bit to get it just right.


 
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Sparkle Mark
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Posted: 2009-06-15 11:19 pm   Permalink



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Posted: 2009-06-19 6:37 pm   Permalink



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Posted: 2009-06-19 7:00 pm   Permalink

Looks like I waited too long to see if I have any kernels for you
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