FEATURES | MUSIC | BOOKS | DRINKS | FORUMS | GAMES | LINKS | ABOUT


advertise on Tiki Central

Celebrating classic and modern Polynesian Pop
  [Edit Profile]  [Edit Preferences]  [Search] [Sign Up]
[Personal Messages]  [Member List]  [Help/FAQ]  [Rules]  [Login]
Tiki Central Forums Bilge 78th smoke-free day! (the great Tiki central mass stop-smoking thread)
Goto page ( Previous Page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 Next Page )
78th smoke-free day! (the great Tiki central mass stop-smoking thread)
RevBambooBen
Tiki Socialite

Joined: Nov 12, 2002
Posts: 7463
From: Huntikington Beach
Posted: 2009-06-09 10:35 pm   Permalink



Congrats Lucas!!!

I would love to be YOU!!!

Soon.........

_________________


Bamboo Ben
Custom Tropical Decor
I build Tiki Rooms for you! Just ask around ;)
https://www.facebook.com/bamboo.ben


 
View Profile of RevBambooBen Send a personal message to RevBambooBen  Email RevBambooBen Goto the website of RevBambooBen     Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
Kiki von Tiki
Tiki Socialite

Joined: Mar 01, 2008
Posts: 758
From: Irvine, CA
Posted: 2009-06-09 11:25 pm   Permalink

Quote:

How long has it been?



25 years!

Quote:

Also, I am trying not to be preachy....after a while, I will probably stop talking about it (and even stop thinking about it hopefully!)


I didn't mean to imply you were being preachy. You're just happy and proud, and you should be! I'm talking about the new non-smokers that think just cause they did it, now everyone needs to.


_________________

Kiki von Tiki stuff on etsy.com!

 View Profile of Kiki von Tiki Send a personal message to Kiki von Tiki  Email Kiki von Tiki     Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
pappythesailor
Tiki Socialite

Joined: Jul 07, 2005
Posts: 1564
From: Mass.
Posted: 2009-06-10 04:12 am   Permalink

Congrats, Lucas! I can't imagine how hard that was.

Cigarettes almost got my father. Over FIFTY operations*. They took out most of one lung and part of another. and his esophagus. He can't go to end end of the driveway w/o oxygen. Please don't end up like him, everybody. Be like Lucas and quit!








*He's the Most-operated-on person in the history of Brigham and Women's


 
View Profile of pappythesailor Send a personal message to pappythesailor  Goto the website of pappythesailor     Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
TIKI DAVID
Tiki Socialite

Joined: Apr 07, 2004
Posts: 1961
From: North Coast/ DEAD
Posted: 2009-06-10 05:50 am   Permalink

Mine came a few years ago at 3am sitting at the computer , on line casino,chain smoking, up $1000.00(no shit) lungs filled with fluid and could not breathe.
long story,won't bore you with details,I survived.am doing very well ,Thank You.
So I come to this from the dues paying side of the isle.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO QUIT?

Have a friend stand behind you and put a plastic bag over your head,and give you a bear hug.Just before you pass out and 'DIE' have them remove it. catch your breath.Remember that feeling of impending doom and death.
Now KNOW this,if you continue to smoke there is no doubt that someday you will feel that same way again ,but this time there will be NO friend to remove the bag.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
_________________
"Pets are welcome,Children 'MUST' be on leash" TD


 
View Profile of TIKI DAVID Send a personal message to TIKI DAVID  Email TIKI DAVID     Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
gonzo
Tiki Centralite

Joined: Feb 06, 2003
Posts: 77
Posted: 2009-06-10 07:45 am   Permalink

I quit smoking in 1983. Yikes that was hard. I cold turkeyd it. Smartest thing I ever did when I was 21 ( I wasnt very smart back then).

If you need some motivation to quit google search "end stage emphysema" if that doesnt get you cancer will. The plastic bag bear hug scenario descibed above is what emphysema is like. Also add uncontrollable exhausting coughing fits, clinging for life to an inhaler, Oxygen bottles, and wheelchairs etc.

Johnny Carson ended his life this way.

Hope this helps
Gonzo



 
View Profile of gonzo Send a personal message to gonzo      Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
Babalu
Tiki Socialite

Joined: Nov 19, 2006
Posts: 2505
From: Lemon Grove
Posted: 2009-06-10 10:25 am   Permalink

Quote:

Document it HERE! (It's fun, and embarrassing at the same time!)

You can do it, Babalu, and I am here to help you if you need it!



Why thank you Lucas... I might just take you up on that.

I've been smoking now for 33 years - cough, cough...hack...

I have quit twice - both time for almost exactly a year - both times, right at that 1 year clean mark, I thought to myself...Awww, I can have one while I'm tossing this beer down...

BAM - hooked again


 
View Profile of Babalu Send a personal message to Babalu  Email Babalu     Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
lucas vigor
Tiki Socialite

Joined: May 12, 2004
Posts: 3985
From: SOCAL
Posted: 2009-06-10 11:14 am   Permalink

Here is some food for though, Babalu:

"What happens inside our bodies when we quit using tobacco? Have all of the years of smoking or chewing caused too much damage for quitting to be of any benefit? Not at all. The human body is amazingly resilient.

Within the first 20 minutes of quitting, the healing process begins. The benefits will continue
to improve your health and quality of life for years.


At 20 minutes after quitting:
Blood pressure decreases
Pulse rate drops
Body temperature of hands and feet increases.


At 8 hours:
Carbon monoxide level in blood drops to normal
Oxygen level in blood increases to normal


At 24 hours:
Chance of a heart attack decreases


At 48 hours:
nerve endings begin regrowth
ability to smell and taste improves

At One Year Smoke-Free:
Your excess risk of coronary heart disease is decreased to half that of a smoker after one year.

At 5 years smoke-free:
from 5 to 15 years after quitting tobacco, stroke risk is reduced to that of people who have never smoked.

At 10 years smoke-free:
risk of lung cancer drops to as little as one-half that of continuing smokers
risk of cancer of the mouth, throat, esophagus, bladder, kidney, and pancreas decreases
risk of ulcers decreases

At 15 years smoke-free:
risk of coronary heart disease is now similar to that of people who have never smoked
risk of death returns to nearly the level of people who have never smoked"



 
View Profile of lucas vigor Send a personal message to lucas vigor      Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
MadDogMike
Grand Member (7 years)  

Joined: Mar 30, 2008
Posts: 7364
From: The Anvil of the Sun
Posted: 2009-06-10 7:26 pm   Permalink

To add to that, within 6 weeks -

The cilia, tiny "sweepers" inside your airways that are killed by smoke, regenerate and start cleaning crap from your lungs

Your red blood cells that are bound up with carbon monoxide are replaced with fresh blood cells that can carry a full load of O2
_________________
When you hurry through life, you just get to the end faster.
Pirate Ship Tree House

 View Profile of MadDogMike Send a personal message to MadDogMike  Goto the website of MadDogMike     Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
Limbo Lizard
Tiki Socialite

Joined: Aug 24, 2006
Posts: 694
From: Aboard the 'Leaky Tiki', Dallas
Posted: 2009-06-11 10:15 am   Permalink

I add my congratulations, Lucas - Bravo!

After reading over all the posts, I notice a number by people who have quit, then started back, or who constantly struggle against the "pull", and fear giving in. I thought I'd add this (long, sorry) post, about how my wife, Monica, did it - unsuccessfully, then successfully:

My wife quit smoking twice. She quit at 22, on sheer willpower. She still really missed cigarettes, years later, though. Then she started smoking again in her early thirties because she was miserable in her first marriage, anyway - sort of a my-life-sucks-so-who-cares-if-they kill-me attitude.
She got divorced, life was better, but she kept the habit. Then, she bought a book about quitting, from a book store clearance bin, read a little, then stuck it on the shelf. She kept flirting with it, but she was afraid to really read it. She thought she should quit, but didn't really want to - she LOVED smoking, and she didn't want the book to spoil something she enjoyed so much. Or, so she told herself.
Finally, she buckled down to finish it. The author advises you to keep smoking, while reading his book, and she did. Don't try to quit with willpower, or because you "know you should", he says. It usually doesn't work, and even if it does, you'll resent quitting, and always be a weak moment away from starting back. Well, by the time Monica was nearly finished with the book, she just up and quit. Bang. Didn't want to smoke anymore. Wanted to "divorce" smoking and send it packing, the filthy, lying, thieving bastard.
The book changes the way you look at smoking, by examining the psychology, the "lies" you tell yourself, the way nicotine deceives you. It deals with all the things you think you'll miss out on, your "pleasurable" daily rituals, if you stopped. Smoking a cigarette relaxes you, sure, but it's largely the nicotine withdrawal that creates the sense of anxiety in the first place! The author,
Allen Carr, was a 4 pack/day smoker, himself.
Monica said reading the book was like having someone read her mind, and then lay out her thoughts about smoking in a way that made it impossible to ignore the absurdity, the contradictions, the self-deception. The author "personifies" the habit of smoking, and you end up seeing it differently - as a tricky two-faced deceiver, playing you for a chump, acting friendly and supportive to your face, then laughing behind your back.
Anyway, she quit in September, 2001 (2 months before we married), and she says this time, she never craves cigarettes, never misses them, even when drinking and socializing with a bunch of smokers. In fact, she has shared a cigar with me (I smoke <10/year), a number of times. She says she enjoys the taste and sharing the "occasion" with me, but feels no urge to "take up" cigar smoking, and absolutely feels no pull back towards cigarettes (not even when drunk). She now "sees through" the lying promises of cigarette smoking, and won't be fooled, again - the spell is broken. They hold no attraction.
The book is The Easy Way to Stop Smoking, by Allen Carr. She recommends this book to anyone else who wants to quit smoking, or who managed to quit, but misses it, and fears they'll backslide. Look it up on Amazon.com and read some of the 500+ reviews(!). People rave about all the other things they tried, before this book finally worked.

_________________
"The rum's the thing..."

[ This Message was edited by: Limbo Lizard 2009-06-11 10:36 ]


 View Profile of Limbo Lizard Send a personal message to Limbo Lizard      Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
Babalu
Tiki Socialite

Joined: Nov 19, 2006
Posts: 2505
From: Lemon Grove
Posted: 2009-06-11 10:44 am   Permalink

Alrighty then, thanks Lucas & all....I'm going to pick an internal quit date today. I will give it a another go...day number "one" soon... I'm going to try to see if these pills my doctor gave me are going to help this time around. I started them, and stopped them a while ago...time to pull them back out of the cabinet.

I'm back in the saddle again...



 
View Profile of Babalu Send a personal message to Babalu  Email Babalu     Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
bigtikidude
Tiki Socialite

Joined: Aug 10, 2004
Posts: 8929
From: Anaheim,Ca.
Posted: 2009-06-11 11:05 am   Permalink

Good Luck Babalu

Jeff(bigtikidude)



 
View Profile of bigtikidude Send a personal message to bigtikidude  Email bigtikidude     Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
lucas vigor
Tiki Socialite

Joined: May 12, 2004
Posts: 3985
From: SOCAL
Posted: 2009-06-11 11:15 am   Permalink

The deceptive lie of nicotine: Yes, that's a huge understatement! It creates the false sense that you are doing something you enjoy. But the funny thing is, you eventually don't miss it at all, and start wondering what you even saw in it the first time!
But for most tobacco addicts, I would say you are playing with fire if you smoke an occasional cigar. It's too easy to get hooked all over again!

Pills supposedly work (Like buspar, zyban, etc) but so many side effects is a deterent.

My advice for anyone is again, take the quick hit. The pain of withdrawal is pretty bad, but really does not last as long as you think. Within 3 days, you are already feeling better and it is easier (though you are at huge risk of backsliding!)

There is strenght in numbers, shared suffering, etc..now is a good time to attempt this!

Babalu and Ben, you should try this: Have this be your last weekend. Smoke yourself silly. Chain smoke, even. Come monday, just don't do it anymore. Take the day off if needed and just sleep it off. Come monday morning you already techincally have 8 smoke free hours under your belt, and now you are just gonna add to that. By Tuesday, that will be what, 32 hours already without a cigarette?

This won't work for most people, but during my first few days I drank like a FISH, and just passed out and went to sleep early. I don't reccoment it, because drinking and cigs seem to go together so well...but this is what I did.

This is day 78!

How do I feel? Oh, I would sure LIKE a cigarette, but I no longer NEED a cigarette and go for hours and hours not thinking about it. The cravings have actually already stopped.

They come like waves. At first, every few minutes. Then slower, more time in between cravings. If you keep "riding" them through, you will be ok. The amazing thing is there are NO negative repercussions from not giving into the craving! None! You don't die, pass out, or even really go crazy! That's the lie that nicotine creates, that you NEED it. You don't.

There are some cool substitute items out there. Like oregon mint. It looks like snuff, but is actually just mint. They even make it in little bags, if that's your thing. Like skoal bandits but without the nicotine.

For those into dipping, this stuff is a lifesaver! it has the exact same consistency as snuff.

(By the way, I was heavily into both snuff AND cigs.)

http://www.quittobacco.com/



[ This Message was edited by: lucas vigor 2009-06-11 11:20 ]


 View Profile of lucas vigor Send a personal message to lucas vigor      Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
Limbo Lizard
Tiki Socialite

Joined: Aug 24, 2006
Posts: 694
From: Aboard the 'Leaky Tiki', Dallas
Posted: 2009-06-11 1:44 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-06-11 11:15, lucas vigor wrote:
"But for most tobacco addicts, I would say you are playing with fire if you smoke an occasional cigar. It's too easy to get hooked all over again!"



Yes, quite literally "playing with fire". I don't recommend it as an OK idea, for a former smoking addict, and it made me uneasy, the first couple of times. But, now, after years of her NOT starting back, I don't worry that she will. She doesn't have fond memories of smoking cigarettes - in retrospect, the "relationship" was all lies. Just like, I don't worry that she'll suddenly leave me and go back to her ex. I know she's utterly done with him, doesn't miss him, long for him, etc. (Hmmm,... not comfortable with how "an occasional cigar" plays out, in that analogy). If they made a pill that would alleviate the negative health consequences of cigarettes, she STILL wouldn't start back smoking.

Quote:
"My advice for anyone is again, take the quick hit. The pain of withdrawal is pretty bad, but really does not last as long as you think. Within 3 days, you are already feeling better and it is easier..."



Monica feared quitting, again, because she had such vivid and horrible memories of how traumatic it had been, the first time. She'd struggled for weeks, having several "last" cigarettes, and never really lost the mental craving, the sense of deprivation. But, the second time, she had physical symptoms for 2 days, but no psychological symptoms, no "second guessing".
She had a skull-splitting headache, the 2nd day off, and started looking everywhere for a forgotten cig (she'd thrown out her last pack), to get some relief. She finally found one bent cigarette, with the filter broken off, in the bottom of a jewelry box. It reeked of perfume, but she was desperate. She carefully brushed off the lint, lit it, and took a deep drag. And barely staggered to the toilet in time to throw up. So, she suffered through the headache, and the next day, felt better. Some suffer no physical symptoms, but she did for a short time, like you. But it's the mental stuff that'll do you in. You've got to get over believing you're "depriving" yourself of pleasure, that you're losing out on some "good times" that others are enjoying.
_________________
"The rum's the thing..."


 
View Profile of Limbo Lizard Send a personal message to Limbo Lizard      Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
Limbo Lizard
Tiki Socialite

Joined: Aug 24, 2006
Posts: 694
From: Aboard the 'Leaky Tiki', Dallas
Posted: 2009-06-11 2:25 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-06-11 11:15, lucas vigor wrote:
"There are some cool substitute items out there. Like oregon mint. It looks like snuff, but is actually just mint."


"Ah jus' takes me a pinch of garnish between my cheek and gum."

At the end of the cocktail, I often eat the cherries and orange slices. Never knew what to do with the mint, though... till now.
_________________
"The rum's the thing..."


 
View Profile of Limbo Lizard Send a personal message to Limbo Lizard      Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
telescopes
Tiki Socialite

Joined: May 06, 2007
Posts: 567
From: Palm Springs
Posted: 2009-06-14 08:27 am   Permalink

When people quit smoking cigarettes, I am always willing to offer my kudos.

However, I am a life-long pipe and cigar smoker. I smoke a few times a month and enjoy the hell out of it. My problem is that society looks at the cigar and pipe the same way they do cigarettes - like shooting up H.

LIke Bill Clinton, as a general rule, pipe and cigar smokers don't inhale. Unlike cigarettes, walking away from pipes and cigars is easy. No shakes, no mental agony. Nada.

With all of the celebration about quitting smoking, please be mindful that the Tiki Ti is a smokers only choice for drinking and smoking a cigar in a public bar.

Here's my request. When I am at the Ti, enjoying my Ray's Mistake, coddling my cigar, please don't approach me and ask me to take it somewhere else.


 
View Profile of telescopes Send a personal message to telescopes      Edit/Delete This Post Reply with quote
Goto page ( Previous Page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 Next Page )
U-Moderate:
  
v1.5

[ About Tiki Central | Contact Tiki Central | Advertise on Tiki Central ]
(c) 2000-2014 Tikiroom.com (tm), Tiki Central (tm)

Credits & copyright infomation