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If this Tiki thing is nothing more than escapism, what (in particular) are you escaping from?
White Devil
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Posted: 2009-06-30 2:43 pm   Permalink

Itís been asserted numerous times (especially in an excellent thread entitled ďHow much escapism is too much escapism?"), that the Tiki subculture constitutes pure escapism. Do you think this is true, and if so, is this true for you? If so, what (or who) are you trying to escape from? Why canít you handle real life, that you feel you have to immerse yourself in fantasies about hula girls, plastic squid and puddles of flaming liquor in skull-shaped cereal bowls?

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TikiG
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Joined: Jun 17, 2008
Posts: 1547
From: Riverside, California
Posted: 2009-06-30 2:55 pm   Permalink

For me its escapism from.....ta da.....the daily routine of Monday thru Friday / 9 to 5 / concrete and asphalt / rush ruSH RUSH!!

 
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Joe Banks
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Joined: Aug 02, 2007
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From: An island in Catlandia
Posted: 2009-06-30 3:31 pm   Permalink

Away from the things of man, my friend. Away from the things of man.

 
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TIKIVILLE
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Joined: Sep 22, 2008
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From: Edmonton Alberta Canada
Posted: 2009-06-30 3:54 pm   Permalink

I'm just ah ...you know , looking for a place to abide....

 
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Suburban Beachbum
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Posted: 2009-06-30 4:08 pm   Permalink

Sanity? Sobriety? Everything, bro... escaping from everything.

 
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MadDogMike
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From: The Anvil of the Sun
Posted: 2009-06-30 4:47 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-06-30 14:43, White Devil wrote:
Why canít you handle real life, that you feel you have to immerse yourself in fantasies about hula girls, plastic squid and puddles of flaming liquor in skull-shaped cereal bowls?



You say that like it's a bad thing?
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Matt Reese
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From: San Diego
Posted: 2009-06-30 8:02 pm   Permalink

Just doing what the voices tell us to do.

 
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dewey-surf
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Joined: May 27, 2009
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From: Clearwater, FL
Posted: 2009-06-30 8:24 pm   Permalink

I think I am just drawn to the era that it represents. Post War, late 1940's to mid 1960's. I like the cars better, the music better, the clothes better, the decor better. I was definitely born in the wrong generation.

It seemed like a genuine time, with better family values, people knew their neighbors, and not everybody carried a gun.

Now everything looks the same (neighborhoods), sells the same stuff (big box stores), sounds the same (have you listened to FM radio lately?!?), and kids wear the same stuff (anybody notice all of the clothing stores in the mall are basically the same thing?)

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woofmutt
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Joined: Mar 26, 2002
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From: Seattilite Telstar
Posted: 2009-07-01 12:34 am   Permalink

Dang, that was well stated. I'd sum it up as: Escape the beige.

With some exceptions most of us aren't really attempting an escape, we're just side stepping the ordinary and every day.

And despite our wonderful precious super coolness it's really not all that unique. The notion of "escape" is used to market pert near everything from yogurt to birth control.

Marketing has got us believing that we have something to escape from. And ha-ha-ha: The things we're escaping from are the things we most want: A good job, house, nice town to live in, spouse, kids, round the clock activities, TV, cell phones, sprawling blocks of beige cubes full of stuff to buy, predictability, and dependability.

Maybe the escape message works so well on us cuz a long time ago it was escape or be eaten. Maybe that's why people like the head hunter and cannibal mugs so much. "I have escaped and here's a poor bastard that didn't...Cheers!"


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Unga Bunga
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Joined: Jun 06, 2003
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From: CaliTikifornia
Posted: 2009-07-01 12:55 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-06-30 14:43, White Devil wrote:
Why canít you handle real life, that you feel you have to immerse yourself in fantasies about hula girls, plastic squid and puddles of flaming liquor in skull-shaped cereal bowls?



Wait a minute!
Hanford, it was understood that there would be no intelligent conversations in the "Bilge" forum?


 
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Tipsy McStagger
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Joined: Nov 21, 2004
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From: HELL
Posted: 2009-07-01 05:25 am   Permalink


it's easy to romanticize a period in time we were never from (or lived through)....in doing so we get to pick and choose the aspects of a particular time period we like , magnify them, make them our own and then eliminate or ignore the stuff we don't like from the same period.....anyone that has lived through the 40's,50's or 60's will tell you it wasn't as magical and cool as we seem to think it was....there were problems and stuff back then too. That's the difference between living it and imagining how it was lived.....Our perceptions of tiki are pure fantasy (aside from the actual historical facts -thank you sven). I grew up in the 70's and think that the 70's were the worst time in history for just about everything in our culture at that time....yet I see kids born in the 80's embracing 70's fashion and other cultural aspects from that time and think it was the greatest moment in pop culture....perception is everything and all things are relative. I personally don't really consider tiki an escape.....i find the whole thing relaxing in tone and creatively inspiring in style but also recognize it as a nostalgia (however imagined) for a time i never knew (except as a youg child on family vacations to florida and what not). These are tough times we face in this country at this moment and even tougher choices....the last thing i want to do is esacpe from it.

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Gremmie
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Joined: Jun 29, 2009
Posts: 25
From: Landlocked
Posted: 2009-07-01 07:22 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-07-01 05:25, Tipsy McStagger wrote:

it's easy to romanticize a period in time we were never from (or lived through)....in doing so we get to pick and choose the aspects of a particular time period we like , magnify them, make them our own and then eliminate or ignore the stuff we don't like from the same period.....anyone that has lived through the 40's,50's or 60's will tell you it wasn't as magical and cool as we seem to think it was....there were problems and stuff back then too. That's the difference between living it and imagining how it was lived.....Our perceptions of tiki are pure fantasy (aside from the actual historical facts -thank you sven). I grew up in the 70's and think that the 70's were the worst time in history for just about everything in our culture at that time....yet I see kids born in the 80's embracing 70's fashion and other cultural aspects from that time and think it was the greatest moment in pop culture....perception is everything and all things are relative. I personally don't really consider tiki an escape.....i find the whole thing relaxing in tone and creatively inspiring in style but also recognize it as a nostalgia (however imagined) for a time i never knew (except as a youg child on family vacations to florida and what not). These are tough times we face in this country at this moment and even tougher choices....the last thing i want to do is esacpe from it.




Tipsy, WELL WELL WELL WELL said! Yesteryear was never like we see it represented. Well written my friend.
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little lost tiki
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Joined: Jun 12, 2006
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From: Orange,CA-right near the Circle!
Posted: 2009-07-01 08:22 am   Permalink

I'm just hiding here in Bilge til the fuzz cools down
and the heat is off...

that was ONE botched heist!


 
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lucas vigor
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Joined: May 12, 2004
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From: SOCAL
Posted: 2009-07-01 10:08 am   Permalink

For me, it is not escapism at all. Just a love of 1950's culture in general. Plus, I like fake cantonese food with lots of MSG and sweet and sour sauce. I like the sounds of the vibraphone mixed with birdcalls. I like the way tikis look, and I like gardens and buildings that feature ornamental "tropical" foliage. I like new bands that pay homage to all the things I like, (Tikiyaki Orchestra) and I even like eyeballs driving hotrods! Spongebob? What's not to like about a cartoon that embraces many elements of tiki? The music alone is worth it. Spongebob is like the simpsons. Yes, both those shows are definately gonna stand the test of time, due to the fact that there are expert animators (Like Grog from this forum) who have been involved with them.

And probably no suprise, but I have always loved SHAG. The colors he chooses, the imagery. I like it not because someone else says I should, but because with a few brushstrokes, artists like shag, squid, yaneger, horne, little lost tiki, big toe, cammo and so many others capture completely the essence of the 1950's lounge culture.



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King Bushwich the 33rd
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Joined: Jan 10, 2005
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From: Ling Cod Beach, CA 90803
Posted: 2009-07-01 1:52 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-06-30 14:43, White Devil wrote:
what (or who) are you trying to escape from?



In the movie "The Wild One", didn't a woman ask the character played by Marlon Brando the same question and his reply was "What have ya got?"?


 
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