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Unga Bunga
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From: CaliTikifornia
|  Posted: 2009-07-24 12:25 pm Permalink
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On 2009-07-24 05:50, Rum Balls wrote:
This company's now located an hour down I-5 from Portland in Albany. Don't know who, if anyone, sells their stuff retail around here. Not only do they make an almond syrup, but I also see on their website that they make cane syrups...and list a passion fruit syrup! More investigation is needed!
http://www.entnerstuartsyrups.com/html/Products.html
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I didn't see the passion fruit. From this company it should be a winner.
And thanks for the heads up on that.
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thejab
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From: Forbidden Island, CA
| Posted: 2009-07-24 2:04 pm Permalink
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On 2009-07-22 22:01, kick_the_reverb wrote:
I just looked through my inventory and found that besides the almost gone old glass bottle TV, I have another unopened one, plus two unopened bottles:
1. Rosata from Israel
2. Orzata from Italy
Both look very unpromising with their ingredients...
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I'm curious what the Orzata tastes like. Have you compared it to Orgeat?
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kick_the_reverb
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From: Originally Israel, now Oceanside, CA
| Posted: 2009-07-24 3:10 pm Permalink
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On 2009-07-24 14:04, thejab wrote:
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On 2009-07-22 22:01, kick_the_reverb wrote:
I just looked through my inventory and found that besides the almost gone old glass bottle TV, I have another unopened one, plus two unopened bottles:
1. Rosata from Israel
2. Orzata from Italy
Both look very unpromising with their ingredients...
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I'm curious what the Orzata tastes like. Have you compared it to Orgeat?
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I haven't opened the bottles yet, but I assume it won't be anything special.
If I open these up I'll try them in a cocktail and post the results. I doubt I'll try them by themselves, as I'm not a big fan of the Orgeat taste by itself.
Ran
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kick_the_reverb
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From: Originally Israel, now Oceanside, CA
| Posted: 2009-07-24 3:32 pm Permalink
Here's a quote from Beachbum Berry that he just sent me:
Aloha Ran,
I totally agree; the hassle of making orgeat isn't worth it if you only use a dash or two once in a while. Purists may object to my favorite brands because they do have artificial ingredients in them, but I judge on taste alone (hey, we're not drinking cocktails for health reasons!)
I like two brands: The absolute best-tasting is Premiere Essence from Roskin Incorporated, made by Bob Esmino -- who actually was a bar manager at Steve Crane's Kon-Tiki restaurants back in the 1960s. Unfortunately you have to order it, as it hasn't hit stores yet:
http://roskinincorporated.com/tropicalmixes.html
I also like Fee Brothers orgeat. But distribution is spotty on the West Coast. Easy to order by phone, though. They're friendly and cool about not having to buy large amounts: http://www.feebrothers.com/Page.asp?Script=2
I've heard good things about Tessiere, but haven't tried it yet....
Feel free to repost this on TC.....
Okole maluna,
Jeff
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pablus
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| Posted: 2009-07-24 4:05 pm Permalink
Annnnhhh, what does the Bum know?
He likes Fee Bros. Falernum over Taylors - he's officially a-fee-shill.
Actually - mahalo for posting that, ktr. I'm always looking for better orgeat than this giant plastic bottle of creamy goo that Koka Nut found somewhere.
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Kona Chris
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From: Tucson, AZ
| Posted: 2009-07-30 9:57 pm Permalink
So should I stock up on the glass bottled TV's orgeat that a local store still has for $4.99 a bottle?
Chris
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kick_the_reverb
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From: Originally Israel, now Oceanside, CA
| Posted: 2009-07-31 09:47 am Permalink
Probably, sounds like a good deal. I'm sure some of the other brands mentioned here are much better, but most people were using the old style TV with success, so I see no reason not to.
Ran
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The Mayor Of Exotica
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From: Boston
| Posted: 2009-07-31 10:10 am Permalink
I have been reaaaaallly happy with the orzatta from Ferrara, which is based in NYC. They use sugar instead of corn syrup, and the taste and texture is a step up from Fee's, imhop. I have only found it at one store in Boston.
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GatorRob
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From: 3 hrs 33 mins to paradise
| Posted: 2009-08-02 2:51 pm Permalink
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On 2009-07-24 15:32, kick_the_reverb wrote:
Here's a quote from Beachbum Berry that he just sent me:
Aloha Ran,
I totally agree; the hassle of making orgeat isn't worth it if you only use a dash or two once in a while. Purists may object to my favorite brands because they do have artificial ingredients in them, but I judge on taste alone (hey, we're not drinking cocktails for health reasons!)
I like two brands: The absolute best-tasting is Premiere Essence from Roskin Incorporated, made by Bob Esmino -- who actually was a bar manager at Steve Crane's Kon-Tiki restaurants back in the 1960s. Unfortunately you have to order it, as it hasn't hit stores yet:
http://roskinincorporated.com/tropicalmixes.html
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I REALLY hate to disagree with the Bum (a second time), but...
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=21769&forum=10&vpost=343028
Tasting it straight about made me gag.
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Unga Bunga
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From: CaliTikifornia
| Posted: 2009-08-02 2:57 pm Permalink
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On 2009-07-30 21:57, Kona Chris wrote:
So should I stock up on the glass bottled TV's orgeat that a local store still has for $4.99 a bottle?
Chris
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Chris, I would be all over it.
Check out the expiration date.
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bewarethe151
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From: Los Angeles, CA
| Posted: 2009-08-03 12:43 pm Permalink
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On 2009-07-31 10:10, The Mayor Of Exotica wrote:
I have been reaaaaallly happy with the orzatta from Ferrara, which is based in NYC. They use sugar instead of corn syrup, and the taste and texture is a step up from Fee's, imhop. I have only found it at one store in Boston.
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The Ferrara Orzata is a high quality product but it has a much weaker almond taste than the older TV, IMO. The Premier Essence (BTW, I'm not a fan) has the almond "intensity" correct. In this light, I see why Beachbum Berry recommends it. But, overall it is a very chemical laden product.
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mick9
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Posts: 27 | Posted: 2009-08-04 11:30 am Permalink
I only have cheap lousy commercial orgeat available where I am. What is the best substitute? Can I use amaretto?
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CincyTikiCraig
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From: Cincinnati, Ohio USA
| Posted: 2009-08-04 10:37 pm Permalink
Mick, I have used Amaretto with great success. In fact when I'm traveling and can't find orgeat I always use 3/4 amaretto with 1/4 simple syrup. I call it "emergency Orgeat". Use a good quality liqueur, like Di Saronno or Luxardo, they have a better almond purity than the cheap brands.
Cheers,
Craig
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mick9
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Joined: May 23, 2008
Posts: 27 | Posted: 2009-08-05 07:11 am Permalink
Great! and it gives an extra kick of C2H5OH (ethanol)whereas the orgeat has none.
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The Gnomon
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From: MD-DC-VA
| Posted: 2009-08-05 11:29 am Permalink
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On 2009-08-04 22:37, CincyTikiCraig wrote:
Mick, I have used Amaretto with great success. In fact when I'm traveling and can't find orgeat I always use 3/4 amaretto with 1/4 simple syrup. I call it "emergency Orgeat". Use a good quality liqueur, like Di Saronno or Luxardo, they have a better almond purity than the cheap brands.
Cheers,
Craig
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Not to be confused with Emergency Orgeat Syrup.
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