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Trader Vic's, Oakland, CA (restaurant)
Koolau
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Posted: 2010-03-27 11:19 pm   Permalink

Cigars are my only vice. That and rum. And redheaded women.

 
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Dustycajun
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Posted: 2010-04-06 11:47 pm   Permalink

Trad'r Bill,

Here is another menu from the Trader Vic's in Oakland I saw on ebay a while back. Different graphics than some of the other ones.




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Trad'r Bill
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Posted: 2010-04-07 3:21 pm   Permalink

Cool - that one looks pretty late... hey DC, do you save every tiki image you come across? I'm glad you do!

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Trad'r Bill
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Posted: 2010-04-07 7:55 pm   Permalink

...crazy - look at this painting I saw today at TV's Emeryville:



 
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uncle trav
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Posted: 2010-05-23 3:34 pm   Permalink

Found a small menu mailer from this location today. Should have posted it here as well. here is the link to the post.
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=36551&forum=5&0
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Trad'r Bill
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Posted: 2010-11-17 10:25 pm   Permalink

I came across another old shot of Vic behind his bar in Oakland... same photo shoot as the previous one with the culebra...
looks like there was some issue with the developing, but this is still probably the clearest shot I've seen of the bar:



See it full size here:
http://www.wirtzbeveragegroup.com/wirtzbeveragegroup/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/TraderVic_WEB_Art.jpg

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[ This Message was edited by: Trad'r Bill 2010-11-17 22:26 ]


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Trad'r Bill
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Posted: 2011-01-19 11:53 pm   Permalink

I figured I'd post these pics of my piece of the original bar at this location... this is probably my favorite Vic's item I've found.





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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2011-01-20 4:28 pm   Permalink

Ha haaah...indeed a classic in true Trader style.

 
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Trad'r Bill
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From: Hercules, CA
Posted: 2011-07-09 9:08 pm   Permalink

I found this cool article about the move from Oakland to Emeryville November 23, 1972... They talk about a the $135 per person fundraiser they are having on the last day the Oakland location was open.

Interestingly, the salty dog turns out to have a soft side:
"The Trader, Victor J. Bergeron, didn't attend the closing of the "mother church," because, he said, "I'm a very emotional man. I didn't want to get a lump in my throat the size of a roadapple. It's part of my life that finished. I didn't want to get a tear in my eye."

Here's a great recollection of the true beginnings of Trader Vic's:
"The original small building included a bar, two booths, two pinball machines and two restrooms. Vic acted as bartender and cook. In 1938 the name was changed to Trader Vic's after a visit to Don the Beachcomber's in Los Angeles. "I looked over his place for a week, and decided I could build a better mousetrap," says the Trader. "When I changed the name I told everyone they'd be fired if they didn't call me Trader."

The whole article is great, it's really a summary of the life accomplishments of the Trader, and the history of the Oakland location. Let me know if anyone wants the whole text.



I'm always watching for pictures of the front doors of this location, so our buddy Mai Tai can have a pic of his doors in situ.



The pic in the bottom right of the above newspaper article seemed to be promising at first, but still too hard to see the doors. Here's the clearest shot I could find (from microfiche):



A little closer, and lighter, still can't see much detail:



Now the negative... I think I can stat seeing the pattern from Mai Tai's doors here:



I definitely see different planks that make up the doors, and can see the concentric circles, just like on Mr. Tai's doors. Call me crazy, but I think this is pretty good evidence!



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Mai Tai
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Posted: 2011-07-11 4:03 pm   Permalink

Super cool detective work, Trad'r Bill! I recently dragged the doors outside, and took good pictures of them in natural sunlight.


It will be a good "before" presentation, as the finish is pretty much all worn off of the exterior, there is some minor weathering along the bottom foot or so (but luckily the tool marks still show there, as well as everywhere else), and the doors have been tagged up nicely with graffiti. Hopefully I'll have them refinished and installed in the ol' home bar, next to Boris' rain window effect, by the end of the summer. Until then, here are some pics.

Close up


Are you looking at the doors, or are they looking at you?


Blank space meant for door handle. There's one of these blank panels on each door. Evidently the right door never had a handle installed, and there is a cheapy handle installed on the left door, but I'm going to install nice door handles once I find something really cool.


Bottom of doors, where weathering from exposure to the elements has occurred, and the finish is pretty much completely worn off.


Close up of bottom of door. Luckily the tool marks are still very prominent and visible. Iron wood is tough! And the spots by the hinge where there are some missing chunks of wood (probably broken off when the doors were hastily ripped out of their location either at Trader Vic's in 1972, or at Cabel's Reef in 2007) will be hardly visible at all once the doors are set into a door frame, and once installed in the location that I have picked in Casa de Mai Tai, those spots won't be visible at all.


Top of doors, where they were most protected from exposure to the elements, and part of the original finish is still intact. I don't know how "original" this finish is, though, as the doors are at least 50 years old and have been on two different establishments during their life.


Looks like I'm going to have to take a trip down to the Oakland Library, and make a few copies of that article! Thanks again for your research, Trad'r Bill! Stay tuned for more about the doors, probably most likely as a resto project in Creating Tiki.


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Bora Boris
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Posted: 2011-07-12 9:25 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-07-11 16:03, Mai Tai wrote:
Hopefully I'll have them refinished and installed in the ol' home bar, next to Boris' rain window effect, by the end of the summer.



Ahh the
Rain Window Project I remember it well, especially since it's coming up on the Three Year Anniversary of the original post!

Let's take the conversation out of Locating Tiki and continue it over there.
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Trad'r Bill
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From: Hercules, CA
Posted: 2011-10-03 10:07 pm   Permalink

Found a cool shot of the interior:



...notice the shakers and ash tray:



 
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Trad'r Bill
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Posted: 2011-10-10 11:12 pm   Permalink

Pa'akiki recently shared this pic of an original painting from her collection - thank you so much!

As the story goes, it once hung at the Trader Vic's Oakland location. The former owner of the painting would meet her husband (who was in the service) at Vic's, and they would sit right underneath it. She loved the painting so much that Vic took it right off the wall and gave it to her one day. How cool!

The signature reads: "S. Simonet" who I think is Sebastian Felix Simonet. He was mentioned in the book: Artists in California 1786-1940 by Edan Hughes. Simonet died in 1948, so that dates the painting somewhat.
http://www.askart.com/AskART/artist.aspx?artist=100099&redir




...notice the similarity to the early mailer:



I wonder which one of these came first??

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SandraDee
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Posted: 2011-10-11 07:38 am   Permalink

Here is a 1940s menu I picked up a few months ago from this location.






 
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Trad'r Bill
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From: Hercules, CA
Posted: 2011-10-12 09:51 am   Permalink

Thanks Sandra Dee - I'm missing that one in my collection...

Here's some closeups of the early mailer Uncle Trav posted earlier (I finally got one):











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