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hiltiki
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Posted: 2009-09-25 7:26 pm   Permalink

John-O we have the Blue Dahlia on DVD.

 
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JOHN-O
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Posted: 2009-09-25 9:09 pm   Permalink

Really, is it Region 1? I know it's available in Region 2 and probably as a grey market bootleg.

My last post had me check the latest status of my wish list. I just found out that Vidiots in Samo carries "Detective Story" and that "Dragnet" (1954 movie) is available via Amazon VOD.


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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Posted: 2009-09-25 10:32 pm   Permalink

Yes, get Detective Story, not Noir, but Hard Boiled detective drama, a must see.

 
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hiltiki
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Posted: 2009-09-28 09:33 am   Permalink

John-O not sure, it says Fox Film Noir on top and it has the 20th Century Fox logo in the back.

 
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thejab
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Posted: 2009-09-29 5:02 pm   Permalink

John-O: Sheild For Murder was recently on TCM. I've seen most of the films on your list either on TCM or at Noir City, the annual film noir festival in San Francisco (every January for about 2 weeks), but I prefer seeing them on the big screen.

Last night I saw a pretty uncommon B-noir called The Burgler (1957) starring Dan Duryea (who was great) and Jayne Mansfield (who was pretty terrible). The original book and movie's screenplay was written by one of the best crime authors, David Goodis. It played at the Roxie theater in SF with a great Goodis screenplay film, Nightfall, also from 1957 and one of my absolute favorites. Both films had great location scenes, The Burgler in Atlantic City and Nightfall in Los Angeles (Miceli's in Hollywood is in the opening credits) and somewhere in the mountains (Sierras or Rockies). I recommend you put Nightfall on your must-see list.



 
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JOHN-O
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Posted: 2009-09-29 6:30 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2009-09-25 22:32, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
Yes, get Detective Story, not Noir, but Hard Boiled detective drama, a must see.



ATP,

Dude, that ending was NOIR !!

Based on your comment I was expecting a happy ending (and I hate when that happens in Dark City).



 
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JOHN-O
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Posted: 2009-09-29 6:40 pm   Permalink

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On 2009-09-29 17:02, thejab wrote:
John-O: Sheild For Murder was recently on TCM. I've seen most of the films on your list either on TCM or at Noir City, the annual film noir festival in San Francisco (every January for about 2 weeks), but I prefer seeing them on the big screen.

Last night I saw a pretty uncommon B-noir called The Burgler (1957) starring Dan Duryea (who was great) and Jayne Mansfield (who was pretty terrible). The original book and movie's screenplay was written by one of the best crime authors, David Goodis. It played at the Roxie theater in SF with a great Goodis screenplay film, Nightfall, also from 1957 and one of my absolute favorites. Both films had great location scenes, The Burgler in Atlantic City and Nightfall in Los Angeles (Miceli's in Hollywood is in the opening credits) and somewhere in the mountains (Sierras or Rockies). I recommend you put Nightfall on your must-see list.





TCM. Hmmm.... Maybe I'll have to get TV again.

Thanks for the suggestions. I just added Nightfall to my list and any movie with both Dan Duryea and Jayne Mansfield is a must see in my book.

I've always wondered about the Noir City festival being run in SF. Isn't LA supposed to be the real Noir City?



 
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Posted: 2009-09-29 11:29 pm   Permalink

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On 2009-09-29 18:30, JOHN-O wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-09-25 22:32, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
Yes, get Detective Story, not Noir, but Hard Boiled detective drama, a must see.



ATP,

Dude, that ending was NOIR !!

Based on your comment I was expecting a happy ending (and I hate when that happens in Dark City).





I can't dispute your point of view, I like to include Detective Story in my idea of classic Noir...


 
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Fres-tiki
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Posted: 2009-10-01 12:40 am   Permalink

"Cat People" (1942) a good dose of "noir horror."

 
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Posted: 2009-10-01 01:01 am   Permalink

Yes! Val Lewton is Horror Noir!

 
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thejab
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Posted: 2009-10-01 3:53 pm   Permalink

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I've always wondered about the Noir City festival being run in SF. Isn't LA supposed to be the real Noir City?





I think it's a tie! One year at Noir City they showed LA vs SF, and there are great classic films set in both cities.

But LA seems more ideal as noir city because the auto-centered post-war urban/suburban setting is perfect for film noir. There's something about the endless sunshine contrasting with the dark criminal element. But SF has the fog and rain, which makes for great nighttime noir atmosphere.

A good book on SF film noir.


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JOHN-O
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Posted: 2009-10-01 9:09 pm   Permalink

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On 2009-10-01 00:40, Fres-tiki wrote:
"Cat People" (1942) a good dose of "noir horror."



I actually like to think of it as "supernatural noir".

Yes, "Cat People". I also liked the 1982 remake with Nastassja Kinski.

My favorite Val Lewton is "I Walked with a Zombie" (1943).

Probably my favorite "supernatural noir" is neo-noir - Angel Heart (1987).

Here are my upcoming noir posts:

1. Top neo-noirs.
2. The most overrated classic noirs.
3. Good classic noirs that could have been great if Hollywood hadn't tacked on the last-minute "happy ending".




 
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TikiGoddess
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Posted: 2009-10-02 1:34 pm   Permalink

Scarlet Street starring Edward G. Robinson and Dan Duyea is excellent. No happy ending there certainly.
As for modern noir LA Confidential is great in my opin. I think alot of modern movies get the noir label undeservedly, but this one deserves it.

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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Posted: 2009-10-09 01:11 am   Permalink

Check out any of the many films of Jules Dassin, cross genre at times, check out "Naked City"
I just picked up the Blu-Ray of Carol Reed's "The Third Man" I dig the post war Vienna location, great Cinematography and more.
Fritz Langs American movies are worth a see, if you have not already.


 
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54 house of bamboo
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Posted: 2009-10-12 3:43 pm   Permalink

Inspired by the programming of a British Film Noir festival at New York's Film Forum
http://www.filmforum.org/films/britnoir.html I have sought out as many of the films as possible to play at home through my LoveFilm subscription (like Netflix).

Why not try some?

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