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Mystery Tiki - Answering the questions: "Where is this tiki from? "Who made it?" What is it for? |
pali-uli
Tiki Centralite
Joined: Dec 27, 2009
Posts: 19 |  Posted: 2009-12-27 8:28 pm Permalink
I have searched high and low and I cannot find a general forum for those of us who have tiki/oceanic artifacts current or otherwise that we have no idea where they are from, who their maker is and what the significance of their find is. Ooga-mooga can answer most questions about tiki mugs or barware, which we are all greatful, but just doesn't have the room or the time for those pieces that just didn't leave enough clues.
I hope this will be a topic board to help people who have those mystery pieces and not people just being too lazy to check the logical resources.
Thanks!
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pali-uli
Tiki Centralite
Joined: Dec 27, 2009
Posts: 19 | Posted: 2009-12-27 8:35 pm Permalink
Ok, I am hoping to start this off on the right foot. Here are two tiki wall hangings I have that just baffle the heck out of me. Any help?
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Bay Park Buzzy
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Apr 07, 2006
Posts: 3026
From: West Bay Park, San Diego, CA
| Posted: 2009-12-27 10:27 pm Permalink
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On 2009-12-27 20:35, pali-uli wrote:
Any help?
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I have a thread over on marketplace where I charge $1 to authenticate Tiki items. Here's a free sample of what I do:
The one on the left is from Papau New Guinea (PNG). It looks kind of newish, probably mass produced and imported for someplace like Cost Plus or Pier One. A real one wouldn't be painted with paint like that one and wouldn't have a hole in top to hang on a wall.
Here are few PNG pieces with some similar features to yours:
Here's a new touristy unpainted piece like it that I have:
Here's a thread on TC of people's PNG pieces:
Share your Papua New Guinea pieces
You'll notice the nicer pieces on that thread all have that neat faded black, white, and red pigment thing going. On the real pieces,they would have used charcoal, shell, and mud stuck to it instead of paint.
Now on to the other piece:
The one on the right probably came from Honduras, Costa Rica, Mexico, or Jamaica...One of those non tiki type places. Some kind of Beardman wizard hippie folk art guy...definitely not tiki. Nothing on it is similar, inspired, or related to any of styles of traditional Oceanic Arts. Might even be mountain or okie art. But those are all just guesses as to what it is outside of it not being any type of Oceanic piece...I don't really know much about those other type of art styles.
Anyone who didn't know what those pieces were and learned about them from my post should paypal me one dollar.
Thanks!
Buzzy out!
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pali-uli
Tiki Centralite
Joined: Dec 27, 2009
Posts: 19 | Posted: 2009-12-31 4:29 pm Permalink
Although I greatly appreciate the information, I do not agree with charging people who share the same hobby as you, even if it is a dollar. Hopefully you will understand and not take it personally. Your information is valued and encouraged, and I hope you continue to help people answer their questions even if it means there is no money involved.
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pali-uli
Tiki Centralite
Joined: Dec 27, 2009
Posts: 19 | Posted: 2009-12-31 4:44 pm Permalink
Here are some more mystery tiki items I have in my collection. There is not labeling on them and I am wondering if anyone has anything similar and what the story is behind them.
The first one is a glazed ceramic wall hanging in yellow. It is about a foot tall and 8 inches wide.
The second are two dully glazed ceramic wall hangings reminiscent of the drama faces found in theatre.
The third is a bottle opener in a Marquesan style that seems to be a woman. Also, no markings.
Any information is great. Thanks for your help
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pali-uli
Tiki Centralite
Joined: Dec 27, 2009
Posts: 19 | Posted: 2009-12-31 4:46 pm Permalink
I was hoping to be one of many posters looking to identify their "Mystery Tikis." Not just me. Feel free to post your inquiries on this posting too!
[ This Message was edited by: pali-uli 2010-01-01 02:27 ]
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MadDogMike
Grand Member (8 years) 
Joined: Mar 30, 2008
Posts: 8555
From: The Anvil of the Sun
| Posted: 2009-12-31 5:01 pm Permalink
Pali, Buzz is kidding about the dollar... I think... but I did send him a PayPal buck anyway because I didn't know they made Beardman wizard hippie folk art guys in the Hondouras.
Buzz knows his stuff because he has spent countless hours studying Oceanic art. Don't piss him off and he may offer more of his valuable information and insight 
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Bay Park Buzzy
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Apr 07, 2006
Posts: 3026
From: West Bay Park, San Diego, CA
| Posted: 2009-12-31 6:17 pm Permalink
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On 2007-11-13 15:33, TravelingJones wrote:
THE GREAT AND POWERFUL BUZZ KNOWS WHY WE ARE HERE!!! TIKI! ALWAYS MORE TIKI!!!
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I've said it before: My head is full of Tiki knowledge!
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On 2009-12-31 16:29, pali-uli wrote:
I do not agree with charging people who share the same hobby as you, even if it is a dollar. |
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Okay, I understand. But since I'm getting paid for it, it's not my hobby, it's my job.
I was just trying to save you a few years of your life for what others would consider a mere pittance.
You're going to have to take the long road then, and do it the hard way.
You might find your answers in one of these:
Book of Tiki $129.00-240.00
Tiki Style $48.99-92.61
Tiki Modern $26.39-126.84
Tiki Quest $29.91-64.38
Just think: you could spend about $250 on all these books, and still not find the answer. I did!
Maybe Sven or Duke will wander by here soon and help you out.
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On 2009-12-31 17:01, MadDogMike wrote:
but I did send him a PayPal buck anyway because I didn't know they made Beardman wizard hippie folk art guys in the Hondouras.
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Hey Maddog, thanks for the $1. I went to Burger king and got one of those double cheeseburgers with it. Whew!I'm full! For at least the first part of 2010, I will not be a starving artist! I appreciate you and everyone else's continued support.
And...It seems when I see those beard wizard hippie styled guys that are marked, they usually have some central american hellhole inscribed into them. It looks like they're all made in the same sweatshop with the destination markings carved in after the pieces are finished or shipped. I always see them in the same lots for sale as those cheap and crappy african and mexican folk carvings. I saw all kinds of stuff like that when I was in Belieze several years ago.
Instead of $1, how about if I get 10% of the final selling price of an item if you use my information in your ebay listings?
Buzzy Out!
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pali-uli
Tiki Centralite
Joined: Dec 27, 2009
Posts: 19 | Posted: 2010-01-01 02:00 am Permalink
Call me old fashioned, but bringing money or feelings to this just isn't in the pure meaning of the genre. I mean: relaxing, getting away from stress, going to someplace different than the money-rat race we all live in. I am sad the only person who knows what their talking about is driven by money or selfishness. Don't they realize this is a passion and unless you are an islander yourself, you really shouldn't be taking a stance like that. Like all truly pure hobbies there are those who become jaded and lose the true meaning. Being funny or not, I am surprised by the negative answers I have gotten from this post and the lack of truly helpful information {without money, recognition or any other cliche rewards} I am astonished by this post and the support those people who give this strange responses "respect". Don't you realize people who are just getting into this genre/hobby/lifestyle are reading this? This is the wrong image to give them and distances them from its origin.
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pali-uli
Tiki Centralite
Joined: Dec 27, 2009
Posts: 19 | Posted: 2010-01-01 02:34 am Permalink
P.S. I am a tiki enthusiast. Not an ebay seller or in any way in tiki to make a profit.
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TravelingJones
Grand Member (first year) 
Joined: Mar 11, 2006
Posts: 910
From: Eastern Shores of Western Civilization
| Posted: 2010-01-01 04:38 am Permalink
paypal sent...
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MadDogMike
Grand Member (8 years)
Joined: Mar 30, 2008
Posts: 8555
From: The Anvil of the Sun
| Posted: 2010-01-01 07:42 am Permalink
Just some friendly advise Pali-Uli, I think you're getting off on the wrong foot here. You have to remember that the people here are solely here for their entertainment - no one gets paid for their expertise. Buzzy probably spent 20 or 30 minutes looking up those pictures, scaning them, posting a response and all he gets out of it is a lecture. I know you say you are a collector and not an e-Bayer but we don't know you from Adam. Several times a month, new people show up to pump the experts for info, sell their goods and are never seen on TC again.
If you really are interested in Tiki, spend some time here. Look around, read some old threads, get involved in some conversations, attend some local events (your profile doesn't say where you are), build some relationships. You'll find the people here are very friendly and willing to help.
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pali-uli
Tiki Centralite
Joined: Dec 27, 2009
Posts: 19 | Posted: 2010-01-01 09:16 am Permalink
Mad Dog.
Believe me, I know. I have been using Tiki-Central for years and truly it is the BEST resource for all things tiki and filled with wonderful people. I don't usually join posting sites unless I actually need information, like now. I have never meant to rub people the wrong way or to cause any trouble. But, to be honest, it caught me completely off guard when someone gave me information (I really got excited when someone replies so soon and with such good info) and then asked for money, with no prior agreement to do so. I have no problem giving Tiki-Central money for their upkeep or services. Truthfully, I went online last night, and before I posted my reply, tried to find a way to get rid of the whole thing. I really just wanted people to answer my questions and to create a spot (I saw no designated spot for tiki identifying questions) where others could do the same.
If you know how to get rid of the whole post topic so I can try again, let me know.
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MadDogMike
Grand Member (8 years)
Joined: Mar 30, 2008
Posts: 8555
From: The Anvil of the Sun
| Posted: 2010-01-01 09:54 am Permalink
Sorry, no way to delete a thread. Once it's posted, it's there FOREVER
PS - Buzzy was just kidding about the buck. Wit and sarcasm are just two more of the free services offered here on TC, after a while you'll know who's full of it 
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Unga Bunga
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Jun 06, 2003
Posts: 5854
From: CaliTikifornia
| Posted: 2010-01-01 10:18 am Permalink
Buzzy!
I'm sending you a dollar just for the entertainment value of this thread.
Mahalo!
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