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Mystery Tiki - Answering the questions: "Where is this tiki from? "Who made it?" What is it for? |
Babalu
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Joined: Nov 19, 2006
Posts: 2498
From: Lemon Grove
|  Posted: 2011-12-02 1:07 pm Permalink
Hey Swank,
I have more info on this back at the shop...will post more later on
I know that the hornbills are symbolic of head hunting: If I remember correctly...the native peoples in NG believed that humans were begat from trees. When they witnessed the hornbills eating the fruit off of the trees, they assumed....
The mask, or face is symbolic of an actual person. Drums and shields were/are very sacred. The spirit of a deceased loved one possesses the drum or the shield. It is said, that at times, a warrior would lay down his weapons and surrender to his opponent (knowing of the certain death outcome of such an act) just because he felt out numbered, or scared of the spirit that possessed a shield.
The swirl patterns also mean something...I'll have to look at my notes later for that one...the zig-jag patterns mean something too.
The drum skins are usually made from lizard skin. They use human blood mixed with ? (can't remember) as a binder to attach the skin to the wooden drum before binding.
All of this was major candy for me in moving forward to make those drum mugs a while back.
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Swanky
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Joined: Apr 03, 2002
Posts: 4813
From: Hapa Haole Hideaway, TN
| Posted: 2011-12-05 09:08 am Permalink
My PNG guys says that level of quality does not exist in PNG now, but can have a drum made like that if I want it doen over there.
The possum is also a sacred animal there and I see it in the faces as well.
To be clear, he says they do not believe in any gods that truly interact with us here and now. By their theology, the gods did all the creating a long time ago and left. Hero spirits are the ones interacting these days.
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JONPAUL
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Joined: Jan 12, 2010
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From: Venice, California
| Posted: 2011-12-05 1:24 pm Permalink
The previous discussion is HERE
On a related note, an excellent book on religious art of the Upper Sepik region is Douglas Newton's Crocodile and Cassowary (New York: Museum of Primitive Art, 1971)
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Swanky
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From: Hapa Haole Hideaway, TN
| Posted: 2011-12-06 12:38 pm Permalink
Thanks Jonpaul. That thread was nice to look through!
BTW, the drum I have looks more like these pictured.
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Mr. NoNaMe
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Joined: May 10, 2006
Posts: 1869 | Posted: 2012-03-31 5:09 pm Permalink
Is this handleless mug / candle holder from the Mai Kai? It looks like a Harper.
Thanks,
Erik the Red
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gabbahey
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Joined: Jan 10, 2011
Posts: 158
From: Pueblo, CO
| Posted: 2012-08-21 1:50 pm Permalink
I picked up this (probable) PNG mask a few months ago. I have researched online and haven't found much info. The only book on PNG at my library is not very detailed.
I am interested in knowing how to tell a mask made for the tourist trade from a mask made from traditional use. Age seems like it will be hard to tell but any tips on that would be appreciated. The picture isn't super clear on this but the nose protrudes and is fairly realistic - especially when compared to the stylized mouth.
gabbahey
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bigbrotiki
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 10598
From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2012-08-22 5:08 pm Permalink
I am sorry to say, but any PNG art you find out there nowadays is with 99% certainty tourist art - no matter what the sellers tell you. They might believe that it's not, but that's because the person who THEY bought it from told them so, and they wanted to believe it. We all do, but it doesn't change the fact that to unearth ritual use pieces for cheap, you're about 60 years too late. If it means something to you, that is what counts. Here is a handy guide:
http://www.newguineaart.com/png-categories.php
...and some Duk Duk souvenirs for fun:
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TikiWereBunny
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Joined: Aug 31, 2012
Posts: 1 | Posted: 2012-09-07 4:35 pm Permalink
ok so i bought these in a thrift shop a while back for 50 cents a piece and they have no markings on the bottom has anybody seen these anywhere(ps the colors a little washed out they are a little bit darker)
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Hakalugi
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Joined: Aug 10, 2004
Posts: 2816
From: Redondo Beach, CA
| Posted: 2012-09-07 5:06 pm Permalink
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On 2012-09-07 16:35, TikiWereBunny wrote:
ok so i bought these in a thrift shop a while back for 50 cents a piece and they have no markings on the bottom has anybody seen these anywhere(ps the colors a little washed out they are a little bit darker)
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Quon-Quon Handled Tiki Mug
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