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Joined: Mar 18, 2004
Posts: 1032
From: Tolland, CT
Posted: 2010-03-15 10:31 am   Permalink

But, if person A is a type B personality, and person B is type A, do we get ABBA?

And who's the Dancing Queen?

Dont answer that....

I wanna be surprised.

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Chip and Andy
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Joined: Jul 13, 2004
Posts: 2277
From: Corner table, Molokai Lounge, Mai-Kai.
Posted: 2010-03-15 10:47 am   Permalink


On 2010-03-15 08:22, The Gnomon wrote:
I use the term to refer to the Tokyo leprechaun that started a chain of upscale Japanese steak houses.

Beef-O'Brady-Sans Steak House!

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The Gnomon
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Joined: May 01, 2007
Posts: 1293
From: MD-DC-VA
Posted: 2010-03-15 12:07 pm   Permalink

Benny O'Hana of Tokyo

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Johnny Dollar
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Joined: Oct 01, 2003
Posts: 3070
From: Columbus, Ohiya
Posted: 2010-03-15 12:25 pm   Permalink

not to be confused with nohana sushi...

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Joined: Jul 27, 2002
Posts: 1323
From: D.C. / Virginia
Posted: 2010-03-15 2:18 pm   Permalink

For me, 'Ohana' represents a loose, informal network of like-minded people who are into the tiki scene - for myself that is a group that focuses on cocktails, mid-century architecture, exotica music, Polynesian design, the historical 'myth' of Polynesia as utopia, and a few other things.

The word 'Ohana' also implies that there is a 'un-Ohana' out there. This might be best described as an average person, who if removed from the general population and inserted into a Hukilau-type event, would be confused, or 'not get it' or have the attitude of 'get me away from this crowd'

Someone with Ohana would have the attitude of 'I like this, I want more, I wish to return' Ohana doesn't distinguish between someone like me who was a subscriber of Tiki News way back in 1995, or the newly arrived fresh-faced teenager who shows much more enthusiasm that my middle-aged body can provide, or a person who mostly attends Group Tiki Activity A, or a person who attends Group Tiki Activity B, or a person who chooses to interact mainly via internet.

There are other communities that focus on other things - trains, sports cars, beanie babies, Star Trek, politics, fine food, world travel, theatre, and they might have there own definition of 'Ohana' that fits their own community, but for me Ohana refers to the tiki world.

My view of Ohana tends to have a global/Utopian sense about it, and it includes many people I haven't met, or may not even be aware of.

There are individuals within this scene I enjoy being with more than others - often a reflection of comfort gained from attending past tiki events, or a shared interest in some area outside the tiki world. And yes, there are some people who can be real jerks, but overall the collective good feeling of the global tiki community overshadows them.

Other people feel more comfortable with defining Ohana to be a smaller group of people - and the definitions of 'us' and 'them' then also change. The smaller group may simply be an acknowledgement of being among good trusted friends, or it may have the good aspects of a sports league, where a group works quietly together and strives to better themselves and the world for a common good. A step down, and you're doing your work simply for bragging rights - the 'We've done this, but you haven't' or even worse, the 'We are now better than you' attitudes.

At its worse, the 'us versus them' grows/de-evolves to the feel of a sterotypical urban street gang, where identity is gained mostly by what colors you wear, or how well you adhere to the gang's rules, or how many bare walls you tag (so you can expand your territory), or trashing (verbally or physically) those who are not part of your self-defined 'Homie' circle. It is entirely possible to end up with a Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde group personae, where one set of standards of how to behave is adapted for within the group, and a completely different set of behavior is adapted for outside appearances.

Community/group pride can be a good and very positive thing, but danger is approached when it overshadows and pushes away the more global form of unity that includes all others.

I tend to view myself as an individual, and de-emphasize any collective group identity for myself. I view the others in the tiki community as individuals too, and try to ignore the boundaries of the various smaller groups that have formed within the tiki community. For myself, the global definition of 'Ohana' spirit works well for me.


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Joined: Aug 24, 2007
Posts: 929
From: Bothell, Washington
Posted: 2010-03-15 2:46 pm   Permalink

I thought Ohana was made up for Lilo and Stitch. I know that it's a Hawaiian term but no one used it before the cartoon came out. I think of it as a non-word in the sense that it conveys nothing of import for this group - we either get along or don't - it's not like being here bestows some special powers of happiness for all! Many are disappointed by the way they are treated when first coming to TC (everyone is supposed to automatically KNOW to look things up first before or in lieu of asking questions) and then, when they are attacked by the "kool kids" pull out the "where's the ohana" comments.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - you HAVE to have a thick skin to hang out here and post pictures of your work and comments on other artists' work because you WILL be brought to task by those in the know. If you like something and you speak out and get clobbered by opposing opinions, you either roll with the punches, and get in a few of your own, or you wither and die - never to be seen on the boards again. I'm glad I stayed on long enough to get past the hurt feelings because I have met and made some really great friends on here and continue to add to my "ohana!" (I couldn't resist using the word! LOL)

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Joined: Mar 08, 2010
Posts: 38
From: Fresno, CA
Posted: 2010-03-15 3:17 pm   Permalink

As a newcomer to this board, I can say it has been one of the most welcoming 'lifesttyle' boards I've ever been a part of. I personally associate the idea of 'Tiki' with Wild drums and headhunters and zombies and sexual abandon (The 'politically incorrect' notion mentioned earlier) and not so much with the 'Tiki Modern'/midcentury aesthetic and the somewhat more generic 'Hawaiiana' but recognize that for the most part these things are all inextricably linked. I don't think that is something that needs to be corrected - either by me imposing my narrow view of what 'Tiki' really means to me, or anyone else imposing their narrow view of what it means to them.

'Ohana's a very generic term that means different things to different people. Maybe it shouldn't...but it does. Any imaginable 'insult' using the term is equally imprecise - to the point of being meaningless.

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