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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
|  Posted: 2013-02-17 04:29 am Permalink
I guess you missed the 2012 TO, Mr. Moto party.......
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JOHN-O
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From: Dogtown, USA
| Posted: 2013-02-17 07:21 am Permalink
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finky099
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Joined: May 15, 2012
Posts: 42 | Posted: 2013-02-19 2:16 pm Permalink
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Indeed I did. Was not able to make it to TO last year.
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finky099
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Joined: May 15, 2012
Posts: 42 | Posted: 2013-02-19 2:17 pm Permalink
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On 2013-02-16 18:48, finky099 wrote:
I was at Tiki Oasis in 2011 and a handful of folks were talking about doing the "Exotic Far East" as the theme of a future TO. This forum certainly proves it would be viable and a heck of a fun idea. Keep up the great work, John-O!
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We agree !!
Inside the International Club...
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John-O,-wow, I dig it!
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creativenative
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Joined: Feb 17, 2012
Posts: 83
From: Island of O'ahu
| Posted: 2013-02-20 03:24 am Permalink
Love your posts Hawaii John-0. About 6 days earlier you posted picts of Mansfield, Burr and Tuner and I just reread it and found your Mansfield links to Primitive Love. I thought I saw the movie and I don't remember the Hula scene about Date Night in Hawaii - great scene. The movie stunk so bad and the the first Hula scene was so ambiguous about it's Polynesian or tiki links I think I broke a cardinal rule of mine to always see a film til the end (even if its fast motion) so I don't miss great scenes like Jane Mansfield dancing the hula. I guess I didn't see the whole movie and turned it off. Thanks John-0 for linking the scene. Here a couple screen captures of her hula number:
Also a frame shot of Lana Turner in a Tiki bar with BOB Hope. She also dances a Polynesian number in the film titled: Bachelor in Paradise (note non-tiki in background):
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JOHN-O
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Posts: 2488
From: Dogtown, USA
| Posted: 2013-02-20 10:01 am Permalink
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On 2013-02-20 03:24, creativenative wrote:
...The movie stunk so bad and the the first Hula scene was so ambiguous about it's Polynesian or tiki links I think I broke a cardinal rule of mine to always see a film til the end...
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I dunno... Dig that crazy Crime Jazz score, burlesque Hula Go-Go dancing, wild bongo playing, modern primitive hep cats in leopard print speedos, and a modern art sculpture thrown in.
I thought that first scene more "Tiki" than the second one !! 
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creativenative
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Posts: 83
From: Island of O'ahu
| Posted: 2013-02-20 11:20 am Permalink
I guess you're right right, John-0, about the 1st Mansfield hula, it's very tiki especially with the vibe you described. I was coming at it with a more Polynesian influence prospective.
Next: I love this thread especially with the Chinese sub-title. Historically there has been a close Chinese - Tiki relationship, especially in the food & restaurant end of tiki culture. Since my wife and I are both Chinese/Hawaiian/Haole I take note of this relationship all the time.
Sorry for the screen captures almost all the time I post but it's my thing man. Here are some captures that illustrate this relationship:
Eminem fronting Chin Tiki in 8 MILE:
Shirley MacLaine and Fred MacMurray in THE APARTMENT:
Ann Baxter & Raymond Burr in THE BLUE GARDENIA:
I know there are others films w Aloha shirted Chinese host or waiters in a tiki restaurant. We all know American or Polynesian "fied" Chinese food is found in almost all tiki eatery menus. BTW just bought Berry's "Taboo Table" can't wait to get it! Then I'll try to make these quasi Chinese recipes.
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JOHN-O
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From: Dogtown, USA
| Posted: 2013-02-22 1:49 pm Permalink
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Big Kahuna
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Joined: Apr 11, 2007
Posts: 1923
From: SoMass
| Posted: 2013-02-22 2:16 pm Permalink
That Tiki on the Tiki Tiki is very similar to the one tha was on the Pago Pago in Milford, MA.
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finky099
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Joined: May 15, 2012
Posts: 42 | Posted: 2013-02-22 2:50 pm Permalink
I grew up in Richmond, VA going to Tiki Tiki. It was the first take-out Chinese I ever knew. So, for the first 18 years of my life, my primary association with the word "tiki" = "Chinese food."
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Are you the webmaster of southseascinema.org ?? That site is awesome !!
And actually was the Chin Tiki really that Chinesy, aside from being owned by the Chin family? From what I've seen in pictures, it looks like a full blown Tiki-style palace rather than a Chinese restaurant jumping on the bandwagon. I must say however their logo does vibe kinda Oriental...
But not quite the Tiki Chinaman as Bob Loos (was this actually a carved Tiki ??)...
(above images courtesy of Dustycajun, as usual !!)
I've always thought the Tiki Tiki in Richmond VA (which I have yet to visit) as the most deliberate combination of the 2 genres...
Edit - And I'm not suggesting the above is good style, just deliberate.
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creativenative
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Joined: Feb 17, 2012
Posts: 83
From: Island of O'ahu
| Posted: 2013-02-24 12:04 am Permalink
Thanks for the "props" for southseascinema.org There are about 8 South Seas Cinema Society members that contribute to our research. I prefer to call myself the compiler of data but yes I'm the webmaster. I also do lots of research myself but today for example I got a call from a TV expert from Makaka and yesterday an email from L.A. to add a few titles to our grand list (a cartoon episode from Hanna Barbera and Movie shorts by Gaston Méliès brother of early film legend George who sent Gaston to the South Seas in 1913). The website does not cover all our categories of productions set in the Pacific islands.
Last year we also did a grand list (22 pages & growing) of Polynesian Pop titles (with scenes of Polynesian influences set outside of Oceania - from back yard & private luaus, sets in Tiki bars & restaurants, Polynesian themed frat parties, etc.) in movies, TV, toons and others types of major productions. (Sorry this list wont go on the website yet - cause its my Masters paper subject and if I post it now I can't use it for my school paper) Might be in a book in a few months though.
About 5 years ago Sven asked for information on Tikis in movies and when we went through our database we realized that we didn't do a thorough job of documenting tiki in South Seas films (over 600 of them). WE use a lot of key words in our title descriptions for searches but the important word "tiki" wasn't done well. We have been going back and watching a lot of movies & TV shows to make sure we don't miss "tiki" in our descriptions so in the near future one can look up tiki (a very key word in this genre) and find all the titles with tiki in it. I have over 15 pages (and growing) of corrections and additions (including the word "tiki")to put in the website. We are also compiling a large image database of the Poly images in this genre of screen captures and short clips. Now you know where I get all my screen captures.
And yes you are right Chin Tiki was only a Polynesian restaurant in the Detroit area. ONLY the name and its front type was Chinese. But I'm into images and that is a great Poly-Chinese image. Last and coincidentally, someone took this picture yesterday of myself, in the middle, and a couple of other South Seas Cinema Society members. On the left is the infamous DeSoto Brown, author, Hawaiian historian, mega collector and major contributor to our research from Bishop Museum and Dan Long (on right), movie theater builder and also major collector. We are at the annual Hawaii Collectors Show where I doubled my collection of ceramic tikis. Help! I got the bug and I can't kill it! (Do I want to? ....Noooo!) Everyone on TC is in the same boat. Good tiki hunting everyone!
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Dustycajun
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Joined: Nov 16, 2007
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From: Santa Barbara, CA
| Posted: 2013-02-24 08:42 am Permalink
Creativenaitive,
Thanks for all of the hard work on creating and updating your great website. When do you think the Tiki update will be done?
Also would love to see that Polynesian Pop listing some day.
DC
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bigbrotiki
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Joined: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 10599
From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2013-02-24 09:31 am Permalink
Aaaah, the Hawaii Collectors Show, much money can be left there! Thank you for your update and all your work, it DOES seem you have caught the fever, I feel for you.
For your research, you should talk to Ron "Bongofury" Ferrel, our resident Tiki Movie expert. He has dug up some really obscure celluloid examples of our hero (or the appropriate environs) making it on the big (or small) screen.
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creativenative
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Joined: Feb 17, 2012
Posts: 83
From: Island of O'ahu
| Posted: 2013-02-25 12:21 am Permalink
I don't want to take away from this great thread so I created a South Seas Cinema thread to continue this discussion so check it out under General Tiki
Mahalo
CN
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JOHN-O
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From: Dogtown, USA
| Posted: 2013-02-26 11:08 pm Permalink
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