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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
|  Posted: 2010-10-26 10:14 pm Permalink
Angry Samoans
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The Witch Doctor
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From: The Trailer Park
| Posted: 2010-10-26 10:18 pm Permalink
I was just dusting My Sven mug and it feel off my shelf and broke (bad Ju JU)...hahahahahh
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
| Posted: 2010-10-26 10:19 pm Permalink
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On 2010-10-26 21:32, bigbrotiki wrote:
I am sorry, but I just gotta say this: Portrait mugs, be they of Don Ho, Jack Lord, OR Johnny Rotten, are just ....so....WRONG! Shudder.
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But I like my Bamboo Ben & Don Beach mugs!
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The Witch Doctor
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From: The Trailer Park
| Posted: 2010-10-26 10:27 pm Permalink
Here is one i made for my buddy for his birthday.. what a way to honor your best bud of 20 + years , but with his own tiki mug.........
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bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2010-10-26 11:07 pm Permalink
Thanks for being tolerant, kids, it's just my personal opinion, please.
Naturalistic portrait mugs lie for me somewhere between resin Elvis statues....
...and Disney-character "Tikis":
Tiki mugs, just like Tikis, are not meant to be realistic depictions of someone, the whole reason why Tiki art is cool is because it is stylized version of the human form: Modernist, primitive, or cartoony - or all of that.
The Sven portrait mug joke doesn't quite stick, because when in 2001 Squid whipped up the first version of the Sven-Tiki mug, it looked like this:
  
...and I recoiled in horror! While it certainly was a fine sculpting job, and flattering to see myself as a bust, it just was so ...un-Tiki. So I sat down with Squid and we squeezed out something that was primarily a cool Tiki mug, and then maybe somewhere had a vague resemblance to moi.
I leave the close-to-life figurines to such companies as Design Toscano and other resin "art" manufacturers that supply the vast market of celebrity collectibles.
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leleliz
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| Posted: 2010-10-26 11:25 pm Permalink
"Tiki mugs, just like Tikis, are not meant to be realistic depictions of someone, the whole reason why Tiki art is cool is because it is stylized version of the human form: Modernist, primitive, or cartoony - or all of that."
Witch Doctor so Sven has said so shall it be law!!
Why can't people show off their work without the constant lecturing and hot air "opinions". Everyone is pretty tired of it these days.
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bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2010-10-26 11:33 pm Permalink
Well, as opposed to the other participants in this thread who all seemed to have taken this in good humor, it primarily seems to be you Liz who is, and has been, pretty tired of my opinions. If you choose to see my well-founded theories about the unique qualities that distinguish Tiki art from other less unique art forms as "hot air", that is your prob, babe.
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
| Posted: 2010-10-27 12:40 am Permalink
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On 2010-10-26 23:25, leleliz wrote:
"Tiki mugs, just like Tikis, are not meant to be realistic depictions of someone, the whole reason why Tiki art is cool is because it is stylized version of the human form: Modernist, primitive, or cartoony - or all of that."
Witch Doctor so Sven has said so shall it be law!!
Why can't people show off their work without the constant lecturing and hot air "opinions". Everyone is pretty tired of it these days.
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Sounds like a lecture to me.
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
| Posted: 2010-10-27 12:55 am Permalink
Hey that's the flying head in Zardoz!
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The Witch Doctor
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From: The Trailer Park
| Posted: 2010-10-27 06:24 am Permalink
hahahhahaha
well now my feelings are hurt.. and I'll never make another tiki again 
can someone send me some glue to fix my Broken Sven mug?????!!!!!
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bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
| Posted: 2010-10-27 10:02 am Permalink
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On 2010-10-27 00:55, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
Hey that's the flying head in Zardoz!
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I know, it's kinda scary, innit? I bet Liz would love to have it though to throw rotten tomatoes at!
WitchDr., I now realize that American politeness would have required me to precede my critique with an ample laudatio of your other mug designs, which are indeed fine pieces of sculpting, as well as the Joe Strummer mug really is. Mine was more a knee-jerk reaction to the fallen Punk hero tangent that you guys went off on, where in my minds eye I saw this army of Punk rocker mugs marching towards me, and I got scared!
It is my fate that whenever I do voice my educated opinion on Tiki matters here, because of my position some think I am pontificating, while I am really just explaining where I am coming from. And I am always open to intelligent counter-arguments to make me realize my erring ways, but they have to be a little more constructive than accusations of "hot air".
And thanks to your sense of humor displayed in your responses I rest assured that my position on portrait mugs will not truly affect your punk rock line idea, for there are obviously enough people out there who WILL appreciate them - maybe a Johnny Rotten sneering "Up Yours!"? 
P.S.: Ooops, I just remembered that "Up Yours" was Poly Styrene's /X-Ray Spex's slogan! Forgive this old man's brain, it's been over 30 years since I witnessed them during the shooting of this endearingly naive document from 1977:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzhDvZ2Q2B0&feature=related
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
| Posted: 2010-10-27 1:25 pm Permalink
That would be "Oh Bondage! Up yours!" and those where the Daze! 
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bigbadtikidaddy
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Posts: 429 | Posted: 2010-10-27 6:59 pm Permalink
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On 2010-10-26 23:33, bigbrotiki wrote:
Well, as opposed to the other participants in this thread who all seemed to have taken this in good humor, it primarily seems to be you Liz who is, and has been, pretty tired of my opinions. If you choose to see my well-founded theories about the unique qualities that distinguish Tiki art from other less unique art forms as "hot air", that is your prob, babe.
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I'll be happy to back Liz up.
whatever you do, do not question bigbros opinions. You run the risk of being subjected to him quoting himself endlessly: "(I defined the term tiki", "I wrote the book", "souless hacks of wood"....blah blah blah.
yeah we get it already.
instead of saying "gee, maybe I was out of line, sorry", it's always some long winded(hot air)explanation of why you were correct in the first place.
yeesh, what an ego
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
| Posted: 2010-10-27 7:12 pm Permalink
Witch Doctor that is so cool that you would make a mug for a friend, very cool!
and a very "Tiki" thing to do! for a buddy.
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Zeta
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| Posted: 2010-10-27 7:19 pm Permalink
Ole! Thanx Bigbrosven and Squid! And I agree with you Sven. You explain things super clear and that is the best of it all. You are super serious German style on how you support your theories. You founded Tiki Archeology. Keep doing it and setting the standard.
You SHOULD make that mug now, just for fun and as an example of what it shouldn't be. The name of the signature coctail could be "Sven's headache".
My two pesos.
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